[Serie A] Fiorentina - Juventus (9 Viewers)

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
11,482
We eeked out a win in the final moments of the game.... I am very happy for that

however, we should have put this team on ice much earlier....we gave them some room, and almost paid for it.

when we were up 1-0 we seemed to slow down, thinking we could play out the rest of the game with that small lead...it was still only the first half, ffs !!

Overall, I felt our defense was sub-par today- we almost paid for it a few times, and I felt that our mids were our strength

My concerns are about the CL...this was our first team out there today, and Fiorentina, who I would equate to be about equal with a Rangers team, or Werder Bremen, could have beaten us, had it not been for a few goalpost and crossbar hits. I know some ppl here will say "oh...but the Viola beat Milan".....has anyone seen Milan play as of late ??? Their defense is starting to remind me of ours 2 years ago

My question is...what happens when we play a Chelsea, Barca, or Lyon for that matter ???


My ratings-

Abbiati: Made a few nice saves...had no chance to save the goal, IMO... 6

Zambrotta: he's better on the left, and it is painfully starting to show 5.5

Thuram: a few bad turnovers, almost got burned on Toni's header, but Toni has nothing to show for it 6.5

Cannavaro: responsible for the goal against...not a vintage Canna performance 5.5

Chiellini: shaky under pressure...when he touches the ball, I get shaky !!! reminds me of Blasi 5

Camoranesi: the hero of the day...made up for some bad crosses with the goal 7.5

Emerson: I have to borrow this from sally-" He did well. He managed to keep the ball, a strong player". 7

Vieira: apart from a few bad passes, he did what was expected- he controlled the midfield...he is physical- thats why we signed him !!! 6

Nedved: does anyone else see that he is most effective in the center, behind the strikers ??He had a nice blast (albeit too high) from the center of the field...he is wasted on the wing, IMO 6

Zlatan: impressive passing today, but his finishing leaves a lot to be desired 6.5

Trezeguet: finished nicely on the goal, but was ineffective otherwise 6.5

Capello : I thought he did the right thing sticking with the core...and only subbing at the very end 6.5


pic of the day- everytime the camera flashed over at the Delle Valle boys, there was a hot girl in the row behind them...possibly one of their daughters...sooooo HOT !!!!!:agree: ;)
 

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Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
Erkka said:
GRAZIE PRANDELLI


YOU WON THE GAME FOR


JUVE!!



Juve did deserve at least a draw today, and the victory was just a proof that this team actually is as good as it's hyped to be, as for example Trap said... Good teams need good luck too! What can I say, victory in the home of those who hate Juve the most, victory in there where the fridges are flying and streets are filled with purple and anti-Juve movement is at it's strongest when Juve comes to town.
those bastard never apreciatte the good,how we helped them last year with maresca miccoli and chiellini,and they still hate us :sick:
 

Eddy

The Maestro
Aug 20, 2005
12,645
Vinman said:
pic of the day- everytime the camera flashed over at the Delle Valle boys, there was a hot girl in the row behind them...possibly one of their daughters...sooooo HOT !!!!!:agree: ;)
oooo I though the guy next to her was her husband
shes fine as hell :agree:
 

Dominic

Senior Member
Jan 30, 2004
16,706
AzherIqbal said:
Is camo going to get away with that headbutt?
Yes, as the ref gave him a yellow card for the incidicent. Yes the card was for the foul before, but it's an indication he saw the incident and did not judge to punish Camoranesi further. As far as I know, the rule states that bans or punishments can't be handed out if the ref has witnessed and already judged the incident.
 

tassard

Senior Member
Jul 30, 2004
6,842
Vinman said:
We eeked out a win in the final moments of the game.... I am very happy for that

however, we should have put this team on ice much earlier....we gave them some room, and almost paid for it.

when we were up 1-0 we seemed to slow down, thinking we could play out the rest of the game with that small lead...it was still only the first half, ffs !!

Overall, I felt our defense was sub-par today- we almost paid for it a few times, and I felt that our mids were our strength

My concerns are about the CL...this was our first team out there today, and Fiorentina, who I would equate to be about equal with a Rangers team, or Werder Bremen, could have beaten us, had it not been for a few goalpost and crossbar hits. I know some ppl here will say "oh...but the Viola beat Milan".....has anyone seen Milan play as of late ??? Their defense is starting to remind me of ours 2 years ago

My question is...what happens when we play a Chelsea, Barca, or Lyon for that matter ???


My ratings-

Abbiati: Made a few nice saves...had no chance to save the goal, IMO... 6

Zambrotta: he's better on the left, and it is painfully starting to show 5.5

Thuram: a few bad turnovers, almost got burned on Toni's header, but Toni has nothing to show for it 6.5

Cannavaro: responsible for the goal against...not a vintage Canna performance 5.5

Chiellini: shaky under pressure...when he touches the ball, I get shaky !!! reminds me of Blasi 5

Camoranesi: the hero of the day...made up for some bad crosses with the goal 7.5

Emerson: I have to borrow this from sally-" He did well. He managed to keep the ball, a strong player". 7

Vieira: apart from a few bad passes, he did what was expected- he controlled the midfield...he is physical- thats why we signed him !!! 6

Nedved: does anyone else see that he is most effective in the center, behind the strikers ??He had a nice blast (albeit too high) from the center of the field...he is wasted on the wing, IMO 6

Zlatan: impressive passing today, but his finishing leaves a lot to be desired 6.5

Trezeguet: finished nicely on the goal, but was ineffective otherwise 6.5

Capello : I thought he did the right thing sticking with the core...and only subbing at the very end 6.5


pic of the day- everytime the camera flashed over at the Delle Valle boys, there was a hot girl in the row behind them...possibly one of their daughters...sooooo HOT !!!!!:agree: ;)

Agree for Nedved.This guy is not finished.He simply plays in the wrong position
 

AzherIqbal

Junior Member
Nov 15, 2005
288
Dominic said:
Yes, as the ref gave him a yellow card for the incidicent. Yes the card was for the foul before, but it's an indication he saw the incident and did not judge to punish Camoranesi further. As far as I know, the rule states that bans or punishments can't be handed out if the ref has witnessed and already judged the incident.
Thanks for that. I was getting worried about him missing more matches.
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
Dominic said:
Quick match report:

Good game, especially the first half had some exciting stuff. One of the best halves(match-wise) i've seen all season.
We started out aggresive and gritty, while the fiorentina players were spread out over the entire pitch. Giving all the players a lot of space, making for an open match. A lot of chances for both sides mixed with good combinations and tense duels made for an entertaining first half. We took the lead soon, after Emerson punished some awfull Fiorentina defending with a good through ball. The through ball allowed Ibrahimovic free a passage to the fiorentina goal to assist Trez, to score into an empty net. After some chances again on both sides, I felt our side took control of the match and dictated the tempo of the game. Sadly though, it was Fiorentina who scored out of nowhere to equalise.

Second half was quite average, especially compared to the first half. With more and more irritations and aggrivations as the match went on. We were lucky to survive that Toni shot oof the post, after Vieria lost possesion(one of the many times he did so) and Abbiati made a big error in his judgement by leaving his goal. Luckily though the goal came for us in the final minutes, Trezeguet's leap of faith assisted Camoranesi for a simple finish.

Ratings:

Abbiati: Hot and cold. Lucky more hot than cold. He made a few good saves. Though one major error, when he came out of his goal to meet Toni. Only for Toni's shot to hit the post. 6
Zambrotta: Was decent. Okay in defence and wasn't bad in attack. Some good moves in the latter stage of the match. Not his best match 6
Thuram: An animal in defence. 7
Cannavaro: A beast. 7
Chiellini: Not his best so far, looked nervous on the ball. Otherwise non existant, like our entire left flank. 5.5
Vieira: Not his best so far... In fact, his WORST so far! He was absolutely awfull. After the match wore on, I got scared when Vieira got the ball. He lost the ball, ever so often. Made bad passes and his defending wasn't up to scratch. He was more of an added value to Fiorentina than to our team. Most of Fiorentina's chances, were created through the countless Vieira mistakes. 4.5
Emerson: Luckily Emerson, was their to cover for Vieira. Opposite to Vieria, he made great passes, set up a goal and did well defensively. 7
Nedved: Him and Chiellini were like ghosts. He wasn't involved in the play, untill the latter minutes of the game. Shame to see him play like this, especially with an in-form Mutu on the bench. 5.5
Camoranesi: My man of the match. Good play overall, Great tricks and skills. Beat Pasqual regularly and created quite a few chances. Not to mention scoring a goal. Shame he is out of the Cagliari match, due to a stupid foul 7.5
Ibrahimovic: Did pretty well. Another assist for him. Had some nice moves, and tried to find Trezeguet several times. 6.5
Trezeguet: Another typical Trezeguet performance, though +.5 for assist this time as well. 6.5

Capello 6: His well-oiled machine won again. Though I wasn't content with the way he handled the substitutions. Or better yet, how he did not handle them. Our left flank was non-existant, yet he does not bring on Mutu? With such a great bench, he wait's untill the '88th minute to make a substitution?

nice ratings Dominic,like usual I agree with most of your ratings.but didn't you overrate Cannavaro?and underrating vieira?
 

Erkka

Senior Member
Mar 31, 2004
3,863
isha00 said:
And Di Livio is starting to follow his steps :depressed
Di Livio is quite an oddball. After all, you should all remember how he danced, laughed and SINGED that anti-viola song when Juve won CL.

snoop said:
those bastard never apreciatte the good,how we helped them last year with maresca miccoli and chiellini,and they still hate us :sick:
:rolleyes:

Indeed, the hatred is that shallow. :yawn: NOT. And helped them? How is that, by the way Juve made profit out of them?
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
Juve_Kosova said:
Nice rating..

only Camo should have atleast 7 .. :) thats what i think..
he could do better for the first goal we recieved,that's why I gave him 0.5point less.
thanx for your comment :)
 

Dominic

Senior Member
Jan 30, 2004
16,706
AzherIqbal said:
Thanks for that. I was getting worried about him missing more matches.
You're quite welcome. Glad to be able to help.

snoop said:
nice ratings Dominic,like usual I agree with most of your ratings.but didn't you overrate Cannavaro?
Thanks and maybe. While I agree, he might've been partially at fault for Pazzini's goal. My eye caught him making several critical interceptions, especially on those Fiorentina counters where our defence was outnumbered.
 

Rami

The Linuxologist
Dec 24, 2004
8,065
First of all I would like to congratulate all my Juventini friends for this win, it has been deffinatly our week!!
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Today's match was one of the most entertaining match I'v seen this year for Juventus. I must admit that we had a 12th player on the pitch, the post saved our asses 3 times, Luca Toni hit the post twice and Ujufilasi with a blazing shot neither Abbiatti or Buffon could've done anything about it.

Seeing Zlatan since the beggining of the season, this player started to get on my nerves, I just dreaded every moment he got the ball. But after seeing Treviso and today I must say that we all should be looking forward for the Zlatan Moogi and Capello have been promsing. Zlatan and Trezeguet seemed to be a lethal duo, Zlatan left his selfish methods, and actually seems more intent to help the team a goal instead of getting a goal himself. Zambrotta as always reliable on the defence and awsome on the offence, I just loved his forward runs, it really created a threat on Frey's goal. I would just love to see him concentrate a little bit more with his crosses. As for Camo, two awesome runs in the first half where he dribbled pass two Viola defenders and set up the ball for Zlatan. Frey's incredible reflexes stopped Zlatan from bagging the second. The other run wasn't much of a threat but it was nice to see Camo's magic once again. Thanks to his late second half goal I have a sore throat right now. Like Zambro I would like to see Camo concentrate a bit more with his crosses.

But this match is not all hailing, Vieira looked awful. Lost the ball a lot, wrong passes, he held the ball way too much in some instances. I just hope that he realizes that he is in Italy and not playing in the EPL. As for Chiellini I didn't see anything that could convince me that he deserves first team football. True he was better than Treviso but still I do not think that he meets Juventini aspirations.

My Ratings:

Abbiati 6.5....Could not be blamed for the goal. But his rushing off towards Luca in the second half raised lots of questions in my mind...why did he rush off up to him only to stand and watch the ball go by him? All in all he saved our asses on a couple of other occassions and I would love to see him continue with us.

Cannavaro 6.5...Pazzini was faster than him for the header and scored a goal...Other than that I think he was solid

Thuram 7.0...Great Match stopped Luca on a lots of occasions

Zambrotta 7.0... Great match

Chiellini 5.5...Still not convincing me that he is Juve calibre. He seemed nervous, and when he doesn't know what to do he just crosses haphazardlly

Emerson: 6.5...Just loved his setup for Zlatan, wonderful communication between the two. He held the midfield quite well.

Vieira 5.5 Lots of mistakes, hogging the ball, bad passes....Patrick please think about todays match before you sleep tonight.

Nedved 6.0...Wasn't really effecient besides two shots that also went wide.

Camo 6.75...I would not inflate his rating just because he scored the goal, I am still disappointed with lots of his crosses.

Trezeguet 6.5...Scored the first goal and assisted the second. But missed a couple of other chances that couldv'e been converted to goals.

Zlatan 7...Assisted the first goal and I would consider him co-assisted the second, he did everything except score.
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
Erkka said:
Di Livio is quite an oddball. After all, you should all remember how he danced, laughed and SINGED that anti-viola song when Juve won CL.



:rolleyes:

Indeed, the hatred is that shallow. :yawn: NOT. And helped them? How is that, by the way Juve made profit out of them?
I never said we gve them presents,ofcourse we would make profits.sure we helped them, those trio were key players then to save their ass from relegation.
 

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