[Serie A] Empoli vs. Juventus (19 Viewers)

Stu

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Jul 14, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++

Nor is Del Piero at the moment. When DP appeared he was better than Baggio and this is why he replaced him. At the moment there is better than Del Piero (I am not saying that he is not good, I am saying there is better) and someone must take over. This is the life in a big club.
You're absolutely right. I don't agree with how Capello treats him but Trezeguet, Ibrahimovic and Mutu are better players than he is atm.
 

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ZAF3000

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Feb 14, 2005
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Remainder:
Thread name: "[Serie A] Empoli vs. Juventus" NoT "Del Piero V Zlatan"..

Just to make a point:
Capello is a great coach, a winner. Its not right to start judging him before just from one watch. Del Piero did not play, so what. He might play the match against Empoli if capello goes with the turn-over. Unfortunately he won't, he got injured.
Capello has a great forwards lineup. It will be an aweful waste if he neglect any of the the 5. They should all have equal share of play time to keep them all in good condition incase of injuries and for the sake of long season work load + world cup afterwards.
Capello sees alot in Zlatan, and personally I can see what he is coming from. Zlatan is a great talent. He is in his early 20s and has all the physical abilities to become the best forward in the world. What he needs to work on more is his mentality. Personally, I think if Capello wants Zlatan to be greatest forward ever he should let him work with Del Piero. Del Piero might have the best professional mentality around these days.
Del Piero is getting older, but that doesn't mean he is useless, for what its worth he was Juve's seasonal top scorer last season.
What was sad last season that Del Piero was substituted many times on which on various occassions it was not justified. This caused tension between the fans and maybe even between them both. The media made a big fuss about it. Never the less, Despite 25+ substitution over the seaon Del Piero proved himself by scoring 17 goals (14 serie A, 2 CL and 1 CL qualifications). He was unfortunate early season by his injury, but when he was back he helped juve, as always, lift of the scudetto cup. Saying that he was crap last season is plain bullshit.
We had other forwards, Ibrahimovic, Trezeguet and Zalayata, All were decisive. Although I would have chosen Cannavaro, Ibrahimovic was awarded Juves player of the season. Something he did deserve. He has put hard work to get such an award. Saying that he was the most valuable player of the season does not mean that the rest are trash. Not at all.

The sad thing is that during the Cheivo match (although I did not see the match I will take the wards of the review for it) Zlatan was selfish and delayed play alot then he was not substiuted.. Never the less, sometimes coaches prefer such things to happen so they can give a ward shower of words to the player inside the dressing room or during the trainning.

Del Piero performed well during the preseason, by scoring alot of goals though he did not play as much as player like Trezeguet or Ibrahimovic. So noone can say that he is less than Zlatan or Trezeguet. And about NT presentation, when DP was called for NT he played well and assisted the goal. Scoring is not everything in football.

I will not judge Capello after just one match of the new season, a match that we actually won. But in his shoes, I would not hesitate on performing the turn-over. This way you will have by the last 1/4 of the season 5 strikers on a very good health ready to kick any european or local butt :cool:
We don't have a striker that is better than the other.. All 5 are terrific so just stop this childish behaviours. Del Piero is Juve's Captain, Zlatan is Juve's player and Capello is Juve's coach whether you like it or not.
If he is wearing the Juve jearsey I will cheer for him and support him from the bottom of my heart till I die.
I am a Del Piero fan, and I believe in him. I feel secure just to see him on the pitch because I know he is one of the greatest players around and one of the greatest forwards in Italy and maybe in europe. Thats my opinion. I would like him to play as much as possible because I enjoys every single touch he makes. His football mentality is broad and endless.

Peace dudes...
 

engonga

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Jul 22, 2005
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++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++
He is not Rami, he was very decisive last year and he played well in the pre-season friendlies. He is still in the club not because he's a symbol or because he has a record to break or because he sells jerseys, he stayed because he is a good player and he is needed.

The problem with the DelPieroists :D is that they think he is better than Zlatan and should start ahead if him. This does not apply to all of them, but a few blind ones that cannot see further than their nose.

Juventus is a club with a mission to win trophies, this means that the coach has to choose the best at his disposal, it is simply that simple.
u said all i wanted to say,man.
i think that we have talked enough about the case of del piero,lets end this discussion now and talk about other things.
i hope that we wont have the same discussions if nedved (my favourite player) will lose his place for mutu.
 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Don Bes ] ++
he should
True, and we will have the best bench players in the world, Zalayeta is already the best forward; next to him will sit Del Piero and on the other side Nedved.
 

Tifoso

Sempre e solo Juve
Aug 12, 2005
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++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++


True, and we will have the best bench players in the world, Zalayeta is already the best forward; next to him will sit Del Piero and on the other side Nedved.
I have a sudden urge for sushi:confused:
 

Maher

Juventuz addict
Dec 16, 2002
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Del Piero To Miss CL Encounter Too
9/8/2005 7:36:00 AM
More bad news for the Juve captain as he will miss the next Serie A and Champions League matches.
Following the results of the tests carried out on Wednesday, Alessandro Del Piero will have to miss out the next two games for Juventus, against Empoli and Club Bruges respectively.

Pinturicchio suffered a muscle injury during a training session with the Italian national team on Tuesday, a day before the encounter against Belarus in which Del Piero was tipped for a first team spot. This injury and subsequent missed games continue to mar the new season which started in the worst possible way for the Juve forward who so far has spent more time on the bench and in the infirmary than
on the pitch.
 

Mindcandy

Junior Member
Aug 4, 2005
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ADP will be back for consideration for the Ascoli match.

That one, as should this one be a prefect opportunity to play 4-3-3 with Mutu starting with Trezeguet and Ibrahimovic.

Neddy in midfield with Vieira and Camo with Emerson rested.
 

Maresca

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Aug 23, 2004
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my line up against empoli:

-----------------Abbiati
zambrotta-thuram-cannavaro-chielini
camoranesi-emerson-viera-Mutu
-------Trez-Zlatan.
 

Maresca

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Aug 23, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++


Nor is Del Piero at the moment. When DP appeared he was better than Baggio and this is why he replaced him. At the moment there is better than Del Piero (I am not saying that he is not good, I am saying there is better) and someone must take over. This is the life in a big club.
and who say´s that the others are better than DP at the moment.. I mean, he had not any game so far.. and after I saw the performence of zlatan and Trez against chievo, then I would say both of the must go to the bench..and DP and Mutu should start..
 

gray

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Apr 22, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by Maresca78 ] ++
my line up against empoli:

-----------------Abbiati
zambrotta-thuram-cannavaro-chielini
camoranesi-emerson-viera-Mutu
-------Trez-Zlatan.
I'd like to see that tested out
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,390
++ [ originally posted by Maresca78 ] ++


and who say´s that the others are better than DP at the moment.. I mean, he had not any game so far.. and after I saw the performence of zlatan and Trez against chievo, then I would say both of the must go to the bench..and DP and Mutu should start..
:wallbang:
 

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