[Serie A] Cagliari 2-0 Juventus, Nov 29th, 2009 (8 Viewers)
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You really should be very glad you missed the first half if you think the 2nd half was bad!
Spot on post though, Ferrara is clearly clueless, he's more suited to being a coach who is told what to do, not a manager who decides what to do. I'm all for getting him, and i am a massive fan of your avatar, if he is available
100% agree with everything in there. I think i would rather see Immobile start than Amauri, at least the kid will have some passion and wont just winge like a spoilt baby all match
Spot on post though, Ferrara is clearly clueless, he's more suited to being a coach who is told what to do, not a manager who decides what to do. I'm all for getting him, and i am a massive fan of your avatar, if he is available
100% agree with everything in there. I think i would rather see Immobile start than Amauri, at least the kid will have some passion and wont just winge like a spoilt baby all match
We went in the pitch without a plan, we had a weird combination of players in the midfield and it wasn't balanced at all, our main striker is in a very very bad shape and we don't have replacements, our best offensive player was on the bench (Gio) and as usual he was pushed in very very late, we are also in a bad physical shape and we need to get a new center back as well as a full back.
But they changed it already
Well, I can't defend Ciro Ferrara anymore. He has to go. The side is obviously in shambles and Ciro has run out of ideas to fix the problems. Marchisio on the left was doomed to fail, especially with Molinaro behind him, and pretty much every other dolt player we have not playing up to par. It almost seems that the players have also stopped caring, as if they already know the season is over. That's what rips me up the most, that apparently this side has lost all the heart it once had.
Clearly, as a club, we are not able to play decent attacking football, which is what Ciro originally wanted to do. After six straight years of playing lethargic, negative, pathetic and slow straight 4-4-2 football that consisted of mostly long balls, it has really destroyed our capability to step it up a level during tough matches, and has also made us dependent on that system. It's not unlike anything else in life where if you do something repeatedly for a number of years, it is difficult to break the habit. Just like dealing with alcoholism, you need people behind you that are strong individuals, able to support and force you in turning a new leaf. At Juventus, we have a bar with only two choices of drinks: one is the 4-4-2 long ball mixer, and the other is the Del Piero scotch. Unfortunately for us, we have been ordering the same drinks for years now, and we must break the habit. But the problem is, Ferrara is letting us sneak into the bar at night, becoming intoxicated all over again because of this dependency we have. He might not be a strong enough manager to lead us out of this drunken stupor.
Buffon - Not his fault. 6
Caceres - Mediocre in both areas of the game. 5.5
Cannavaro - Laughable. I hate your fucking guts. 3
Chiellini - Our best defender and still worked hard for the team with an apparent broken nose, but still makes silly errors with the ball. 6
Molinaro - Worst left-back in the league. 3
Sissoko - We might as well take him out after we go down a goal because this guy won't help us level. Send him down to the Primavera and teach him how to pass the ball and make smart decisions with it. 4.5
Poulsen - Did better than Sissoko but that's not saying anything. 6
Camoranesi - Certainly off form, not adding much besides reckless tackles and stupid yellows. 5
Diego - Put in some good balls but still not looking anything like the Diego from Bremen. Had a few shots but they were poor for his supposed class. 5.5
Marchisio - Added nothing, but that's to be expected, fielded out of position. 5
Amauri - Scored a goal but was offsides, should have done better there. Not much service but he still looks poor. 5.5
Del Piero - Very poor, still not ready to go as far as I'm concerned. 5
Giovinco - Only player we had to at least put some pressure on their flanks. Should have started. 6
Ferrara - If the team is losing its heart, you have to look here. Sorry Ciro. 0
Clearly, as a club, we are not able to play decent attacking football, which is what Ciro originally wanted to do. After six straight years of playing lethargic, negative, pathetic and slow straight 4-4-2 football that consisted of mostly long balls, it has really destroyed our capability to step it up a level during tough matches, and has also made us dependent on that system. It's not unlike anything else in life where if you do something repeatedly for a number of years, it is difficult to break the habit. Just like dealing with alcoholism, you need people behind you that are strong individuals, able to support and force you in turning a new leaf. At Juventus, we have a bar with only two choices of drinks: one is the 4-4-2 long ball mixer, and the other is the Del Piero scotch. Unfortunately for us, we have been ordering the same drinks for years now, and we must break the habit. But the problem is, Ferrara is letting us sneak into the bar at night, becoming intoxicated all over again because of this dependency we have. He might not be a strong enough manager to lead us out of this drunken stupor.
Buffon - Not his fault. 6
Caceres - Mediocre in both areas of the game. 5.5
Cannavaro - Laughable. I hate your fucking guts. 3
Chiellini - Our best defender and still worked hard for the team with an apparent broken nose, but still makes silly errors with the ball. 6
Molinaro - Worst left-back in the league. 3
Sissoko - We might as well take him out after we go down a goal because this guy won't help us level. Send him down to the Primavera and teach him how to pass the ball and make smart decisions with it. 4.5
Poulsen - Did better than Sissoko but that's not saying anything. 6
Camoranesi - Certainly off form, not adding much besides reckless tackles and stupid yellows. 5
Diego - Put in some good balls but still not looking anything like the Diego from Bremen. Had a few shots but they were poor for his supposed class. 5.5
Marchisio - Added nothing, but that's to be expected, fielded out of position. 5
Amauri - Scored a goal but was offsides, should have done better there. Not much service but he still looks poor. 5.5
Del Piero - Very poor, still not ready to go as far as I'm concerned. 5
Giovinco - Only player we had to at least put some pressure on their flanks. Should have started. 6
Ferrara - If the team is losing its heart, you have to look here. Sorry Ciro. 0
that was what I was trying to say. but let's end the discussion here.'I'm just so dissapointed with our overal display. It's hard with these perfomances to defend our team
I'm struggling to digest this performance, and this period of form. Its tough enough when we're unlucky, but when were just plain dreadful week in week out i cant comprehend it. The only good perfomance this season was against samp, and after that we were promised to be 'a team on the up' but we've never managed to replicate it... Its so hard to see the team like this....
It might be too late for that after the Inter and Bayern games.
I can only hope that after the Bordeaux match our directors gave an ultimatum to Ferrara and they started looking for his replacement. We can tempt coaches from the smaller teams and if we can't find a great coach now, we can at least find someone who'll do a better job than Ferrara till the end of the season.
I can only hope that after the Bordeaux match our directors gave an ultimatum to Ferrara and they started looking for his replacement. We can tempt coaches from the smaller teams and if we can't find a great coach now, we can at least find someone who'll do a better job than Ferrara till the end of the season.
Good summary Andy, although your Caceres ratin is pretty harsh. The guy was our best defender today IMO.
It's definately true about the formation, and the signing of diego has definately given us more problems than i had predicted because its awkward to build a system around him. But i think we need to try the 4-3-3 with attacking wingers like this now:
--------------------Trezeguet
Giovinco---------------------------------Camoranesi
----------------Diego---Marchisio
---------------------Sissoko
Grosso----Chiellini---------Canna-------Caceres
---------------------Buffon
This is pretty much what chelsea played under Mourinho and Hiddink. Diego would have to play the 'Lampard role'. we clearly cant play football along the ground through the middle, like we are trying to, so we need to give this a go. We can play with width like we did the 4-4-2, its more secure because we have more players in the centre of the park and its flexible depending on the situation in the game.... I want to see this at least tested, it couldn't be any worse than the current shit