Serie A 2024-25 (130 Viewers)

[Gaidamack]

AC Milan's been all over the place lately, honestly. I watched them against Atalanta recently and it was painful. The midfield looked lost and they couldn’t string anything together in the second half. They’ve had flashes this season, but consistency isn’t there at all. Makes you miss the days when they’d control a whole match with ease.

 

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[Dostoevsky]

Why would anyone who's not a Milan fan miss that?

 

[Stevie]

Nah, Huijsen looks like a nerd.

Osvaldo proper chill guy.

Osvaldo is a hipster.

Handsome guy tho tbf

 

[campionesidd]

Kalulu is suspended, he got the red card in the last match.

I know that. I’m saying that we shouldn’t need to have those two players available to beat Udinese.

 

[s4tch]

samp down to serie c now. let's see how mancini saves them

 

[campionesidd]

Oriali intermafia scum, stay away you twat from juventus, you set foot on that pitch and you are fucked, the fans would fucking burn you at the stake, you should be in prison you prick.

@Lion shaking in his boots right now

 

[juvesince96]

what if u add kurt angle into the mix?

 

[campionesidd]

This one was so important. I remember watching it live. That season was so nerve wrecking. Every single goal and point was crucial.

I remember we drew 14 out of the first 27 games, and then won 10 out of the last 11 games.

What an amazing season that was- Del Piero’s farewell, our first game at the J Stadium, that nostalgic pink away kit. Marchisio having an amazing season and forming the original MVP midfield. The first full season with the BBBC at the back. Our first title since Farsopoli. Almost brings tears to my eyes.

 

[Vlad]

Since VAR, in almost all cases, with certain notable exceptions like that fuck up when it disallowed a Bonucci goal for offside, is there to correct a mistake from the ref or the linesman, being penalized or favored by VAR means the same - the refs originally made a mistake.

If team A is penalized by VAR, it shows that it was previously favored by the refs (didn't call an offside, didn't see a foul for a penalty, called a penalty when they shouldn't have)
If team B is favored by VAR, it shows that it was previously penalized by the ref (disallowed goal for offside, when there wasn't offside etc.)

In short, Juve being among the most "penalized" teams by VAR is used by the thick Juve opponents as a proof that we were/are favored by the referees, and that if there was no VAR we'd have continued getting the favorable treatment.

On the other hand, the just as thick Juve fans are using it to show some anti-Juve conspiracy.

I dont mind VAR, however dont you think it could be manipulated, adjusting the frame that player's toe is in an offside position? I swear one time Vlahovic had goal disallowed because he did not shave that day or his hair was offside I dont like this milimeter offside calls. I would use it for penalties, red cards, but I would give more margine to offsides. Nowdays I cant fully celebrate a goal until it's checked by VAR. Referees are also relying too much on it for obvious offside calls. There is no point in having 5 referees anymore. That being said I think offside rule should get evaluated.

 

[Alen]

I dont mind VAR, however dont you think it could be manipulated, adjusting the frame that player's toe is in an offside position?

I suppose it can be manipulated, but for that to happen, everyone in the VAR room, and anyone reviewing the footage from the cameras inside the VAR room, would have to be in on it.
This probably fits the narrative of behind-the-scenes scheming and hidden agendas, but it's hard for me to swallow that so many people would risk their careers just to 'fix' a regular offside call in a Como-Venezia match.

 

[Vlad]

I suppose it can be manipulated, but for that to happen, everyone in the VAR room, and anyone reviewing the footage from the cameras inside the VAR room, would have to be in on it.
This probably fits the narrative of behind-the-scenes scheming and hidden agendas, but it's hard for me to swallow that so many people would risk their careers just to 'fix' a regular offside call in a Como-Venezia match.

High profile games. Im not saying it is done but I would not be surprised to read about it 5 years from now. As for offside calls, something needs to be done. Its getting ridiculous.

 

[Alen]

High profile games. Im not saying it is done but I would not be surprised to read about it 5 years from now. As for offside calls, something needs to be done. Its getting ridiculous.

Nah, I don't think that they manipulate offsides, at least not deliberately.
One of the real loopholes might be penalty decisions. The referee could call a penalty, or miss a foul or handball and not give one. Then the VAR official has to make a subjective judgment: was it a clear and obvious error or not? If it’s a blatant error, he’ll have to call the ref to take another look. But if it’s a 95-5 situation, the VAR can simply say it wasn’t a clear and obvious error, even if, realistically, it was, and not call the ref for another look.

 

[Boksic]

I've never understood the "clear and obvious error" wording that is used. A foul is a foul, if it should be called as one. Once you start adding "clear and obvious" you start moving into subjective decisions which is never a good idea.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I suppose it can be manipulated, but for that to happen, everyone in the VAR room, and anyone reviewing the footage from the cameras inside the VAR room, would have to be in on it.
This probably fits the narrative of behind-the-scenes scheming and hidden agendas, but it's hard for me to swallow that so many people would risk their careers just to 'fix' a regular offside call in a Como-Venezia match.

There are many ways it can be manipulated, just like a ref can manipulate a result without having to call penalties or give red cards.
Remember when var would go back to a foul that occured a minute prior in midfield to cancel gol? The level of scrutiny every major juve decision goes through is unparalleled.

 

[Alex-444]

 

[Dino_mk]

Were referees always this bad through the history or they got worse in present time?
Just watching copa final and Mariani is terrible.

Maybe with increased number of cameras, angles to view some situation, more refs mistakes could be spotted.

 

[Alex-444]

lol bologna 1-0

 

[Mark]

wrong bread fools!

https://www.juventuz.com/threads/coppa-italia-2024-25.45283/page-3

 

[X Æ A-12]

lol bologna 1-0

according to who?

edit: nevermind my stream is like 5 minutes behind lol

 

[Mark]

https://www.juventuz.com/threads/coppa-italia-2024-25.45283/page-3