Serie A 2021-22 (47 Viewers)

[Hist]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here, we first need to get into that top 4. The teams in front of us need to have a proper meltdown for us to have any change of winning the title, it's highly improbable.

Damage is done already for the title race.

But saying top 4 is a big ask is way too low of expectations. I really hope Allegri and the club management have higher standards than some of the fanbase.

 

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[il brutto]

Ofc we still have issues. But what about Atlanta's squad issues? Napoli's? Milan's?

You are implying that until we have no squad issues, we shouldn't expect to compete against these minnows.

Isn't the whole idea behind hiring a top coach at a massive salary is to punch above our weight and overcome teams with better squads? Beating Atalanta is not even punching side-ways, our bench is better than their starting 11 ffs.

City finished third during Pep's first season and Liverpool finished 4th during Klopp's first full season there. Even top coaches need time, especially when they take over a team going through a more difficult spell.

 

[Post Ironic]

Ahhh the angry forum incel comes in with an insult. You are truly a self-parody.

The great irony in all of this is that your low expectations are very revealing.

Either you really think Allegri is a poor coach that we cant expect anything more from him than Pirlo, Pioli and Spaletti. Or you find it so difficult to admit that he is failing, so you'll set the bar so low that any performance counts as success. If we were 7th or 8th now you'd be counting Europa League spots as a success.

because I didn’t just say top 4 this season and scudetto next are the expectation. So much cringe-y mental illness in a single post.

You really are the forum retard. Keep trying so hard to be clever. One day I’m sure you shall stumble into being half-right about something. Until then the trolling and idiotic hot takes will suffice for a good laugh.

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You are delusional if you think that our bench is better than starting 11 of squads above us.

He’s just a troll. He’s been trolling about Juventus, Allegri, the squad’s players, even the city of Turin, etc for years. Our players are all top class when it’s convenient for his argument. Most of them are shit when it’s convenient for his argument. I doubt he’s actually a Juve fan at this point. He’s calling the club he supposedly cheers for “the new Arsenal” because after 9 straight scudetti we might have two 4th place finishes while transitioning to a younger core and what we all hope is another period of dominance.

 

[Fab Fragment]

Poor Fiorentina - guess their hate for us keeps on increasing exponentially [after tonight’s results].

 

[Jäger]

Ahhh the angry forum incel comes in with an insult. You are truly a self-parody.

The great irony in all of this is that your low expectations are very revealing.

Either you really think Allegri is a poor coach that we cant expect anything more from him than Pirlo, Pioli and Spaletti. Or you find it so difficult to admit that he is failing, so you'll set the bar so low that any performance counts as success. If we were 7th or 8th now you'd be counting Europa League spots as a success.

This

 

[cimenk]

City finished third during Pep's first season and Liverpool finished 4th during Klopp's first full season there. Even top coaches need time, especially when they take over a team going through a more difficult spell.

How about Pirlo's. We don't give him time.
The difference is Pirlo's tenure came for our 10th scudetto in a row while Allegri's tenure came after we got 4th spot. So it would be different expectation.

 

[DAiDEViL]

How about Pirlo's. We don't give him time.

And the reason for that has literally been explained over a 1000 times by now.

 

[Salvo]

Damn would've liked a draw from the derby

 

[Hist]

because I didn’t just say top 4 this season and scudetto next are the expectation. So much cringe-y mental illness in a single post.

You really are the forum retard. Keep trying so hard to be clever. One day I’m sure you shall stumble into being half-right about something. Until then the trolling and idiotic hot takes will suffice for a good laugh.

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He’s just a troll. He’s been trolling about Juventus, Allegri, the squad’s players, even the city of Turin, etc for years. Our players are all top class when it’s convenient for his argument. Most of them are shit when it’s convenient for his argument. I doubt he’s actually a Juve fan at this point. He’s calling the club he supposedly cheers for “the new Arsenal” because after 9 straight scudetti we might have two 4th place finishes while transitioning to a younger core and what we all hope is another period of dominance.

No my beloved hot tempered incel, we are the new Arsenal when our fans and management consider a top 4 finish with the strongest or at worst 2nd strongest squad "a big ask".

I am still firmly upholding Juve standards and expectations, where its a bad season if we don't win and a really bad season if we finish less than 2nd in a very weak league. It's you and your ilk who are pushing Arsenal expectations and pretending these are reasonable targets out of some fear of admitting you were wrong about Allegri.

Allegri is not Juve dude. If you had the courage to admit Sarri and Pirlo werent doing good enough with what they had, you should do the same now because this is worse.


And dude... its Atalanta, Napoli and Milan. We can have much better players than theirs without ours being "top class".

 

[campionesidd]

No my beloved hot tempered incel, we are the new Arsenal when our fans and management consider a top 4 finish with the strongest or at worst 2nd strongest squad "a big ask".

I am still firmly upholding Juve standards and expectations, where its a bad season if we don't win and a really bad season if we finish less than 2nd in a very weak league. It's you and your ilk who are pushing Arsenal expectations and pretending these are reasonable targets out of some fear of admitting you were wrong about Allegri.

Allegri is not Juve dude. If you had the courage to admit Sarri and Pirlo werent doing good enough with what they had, you should do the same now because this is worse.


And dude... its Atalanta, Napoli and Milan. We can have much better players than theirs without ours being "top class".

This is exactly the kind of attitude that caused us to be in this predicament. We were so obsessed with winning the Scudetto and the CL every year that we got blinded by our short term approach and eventually everything fell apart. Building a team takes time, and this was always going to be a tough season.
Would you rather win the scudetto this season by forcing Ronaldo to stay and sacrificing our long term future, or would you rather sacrifice a season to build a team that can compete in Italy and Europe for years to come.
Winning the league every single year is unrealistic. Not even Lippi and Trap won it every year with the superstars they had. Now, if the goal was to finish in 4th place, every season, I'd be as disappointed as you, but that clearly isn't the case- the acquisitions of Zakaria, Locatelli and Vlahovic show that. So stop whining, and support the club for a change. It's funny how I never see you celebrate a win, but you're the first one to jump on to Tuz after a bad result. Just goes to show what kind of 'fan' you are.

 

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[campionesidd]

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[Hist]

This is exactly the kind of attitude that caused us to be in this predicament. We were so obsessed with winning the Scudetto and the CL every year that we got blinded by our short term approach and eventually everything fell apart. Building a team takes time, and this was always going to be a tough season.
Would you rather win the scudetto this season by forcing Ronaldo to stay and sacrificing our long term future, or would you rather sacrifice a season to build a team that can compete in Italy and Europe for years to come.
Winning the league every single year is unrealistic. Not even Lippi and Trap won it every year with the superstars they had. Now, if the goal was to finish in 4th place, every season, I'd be as disappointed as you, but that clearly isn't the case- the acquisitions of Zakaria, Locatelli and Vlahovic show that. So stop whining, and support the club for a change. It's funny how I never see you celebrate a win, but you're the first one to jump on to Tuz after a bad result. Just goes to show what kind of 'fan' you are.

Yet we won the league 9 times running and we were reasonable in expecting that every single time with perhaps the first one as the exception. Why?

Because in each of these years we had better resources than our competitors. Where we wrong in expecting Sarri in Pirlo to win? No we weren't. You weren't singing this tune then for a reason. We had better resources than those currently above us and rightfully expected to out perform them.

Now we still have better resources than our competitors, certainly better than atlanta and napoli and milan. We finished 4th in a season that everyone recognized as below standard, and we went on to hire the most expensive coach in Serie A. Look at our old posts at the start of the season including those from the folks that now say top 4 is a big ask. Every one thought pirlo should have done better and with Allegris return we would do better.

Management screwed allegri by letting Ronaldo go so late, but he still has better resources than those above us.

You can deny that you've moved the goal posts since the start of the season all you want but it did happen. Heck even before the surprising winter signings top 4 minimum was expected. Now with these signings the expectation is lower? Top 4 is a big ask? Fuckin hell man.

 

[Strickland]

Yet we won the league 9 times running and we were reasonable in expecting that every single time with perhaps the first one as the exception. Why?

Because in each of these years we had better resources than our competitors. Where we wrong in expecting Sarri in Pirlo to win? No we weren't. You weren't singing this tune then for a reason. We had better resources than those currently above us and rightfully expected to out perform them.

Now we still have better resources than our competitors, certainly better than atlanta and napoli and milan. We finished 4th in a season that everyone recognized as below standard, and we went on to hire the most expensive coach in Serie A. Look at our old posts at the start of the season including those from the folks that now say top 4 is a big ask. Every one thought pirlo should have done better and with Allegris return we would do better.

Management screwed allegri by letting Ronaldo go so late, but he still has better resources than those above us.

You can deny that you've moved the goal posts since the start of the season all you want but it did happen. Heck even before the surprising winter signings top 4 minimum was expected. Now with these signings the expectation is lower? Top 4 is a big ask? Fuckin hell man.

Start of the season I expected 1st place. The chances of that are almost gone, imo the blame of that is shared between Max, players and mgmt, all fucked up quite a lot and it resulted in a freak Jan mercato.

Id say its very unlikely to catch up to Inter at -11, so my expectation is to finish the season on a Scudetto pace and get top4. If Allegri cant do that, Id think long and hard if hes the right man for the job. If he can do that, I think we have a rather solid reason to believe next season we're back to being favorites in Serie A, perhaps even start challenging in Europe.

 

[Hist]

Start of the season I expected 1st place. The chances of that are almost gone, imo the blame of that is shared between Max, players and mgmt, all fucked up quite a lot and it resulted in a freak Jan mercato.

Id say its very unlikely to catch up to Inter at -11, so my expectation is to finish the season on a Scudetto pace and get top4. If Allegri cant do that, Id think long and hard if hes the right man for the job. If he can do that, I think we have a rather solid reason to believe next season we're back to being favorites in Serie A, perhaps even start challenging in Europe.

Fully agree. I genuinely think we will finish 2nd or 3rd at the worst especially with the added energy from the vlahovic signing undoing the feeling of decline from Ronaldo’s sudden departure.

Ofc I wouldn't consider that as Allegri defying expectations, like he pulled off some miracle but like you, I'll take that as sufficient to give him another season and expect to regain the title next year. If we finish just 4th it's better than nothing but I'll have very low confidence going into next season.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

That puts us at 87 points. Inter has picked up 2.3 points per match this season and is on pace for 88 points right now. Even if we win every match we’d need help.

And if you think this squad is good enough to win every single match for the rest of the season. I’m sure you shall say it’s all Allegri’s fault. And probably throw Beppe in there too. Because Turk gonna Turk.

if we get that winning streak, you can bet on them to push that selfdestruct button. if players are half as concerned as us fan do, they should consider every single game a final and give it a go.

and yes, it is allegri's fault we are in this mess and he must fix it. get over with it.

 

[s4tch]

Start of the season I expected 1st place...

with this squad? based on what exactly?

inda have by far the strongest squad, and it's not even close. we have one single mid with barella, brozovic, calhanoglu quality. i can't see them losing the scudetto.

juve winning all remaining matches gotta love turk's touch with reality.

 

[Post Ironic]

with this squad? based on what exactly?

inda have by far the strongest squad, and it's not even close. we have one single mid with barella, brozovic, calhanoglu quality. i can't see them losing the scudetto.

juve winning all remaining matches gotta love turk's touch with reality.

Apparently, if we pick up 38 of 45 points remaining (12 wins - 2 draws - 1 loss), which would put us at 80 points (more than last season)… if that is 4th place, it’s an absolute disgrace and we should have very low confidence going into next season with Allegri.

 

[il brutto]

How about Pirlo's. We don't give him time.
The difference is Pirlo's tenure came for our 10th scudetto in a row while Allegri's tenure came after we got 4th spot. So it would be different expectation.

That and Pirlo is not a top coach with a proven track record. Whether it's fair or not, in this sport you need to earn that time.