Aren't you Egyptian? Like why are you surprised by the response. Aren't Muslims indoctrinated to hate Jews from a very young age regardless of Israel anyway ?
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woah, this thread escalated quickly
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http://www.europe.easybranches.com/italy/President-hires-himself-as-Coach-84845 :
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http://www.europe.easybranches.com/italy/President-hires-himself-as-Coach-84845 :
:Let's get back on topic
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Some Juventus fans turned their backs and sang the Italian national anthem during a minute's silence to remember the Holocaust before the Serie A game against SPAL.
A passage of Anne Frank's diary was read before Wednesday's matches, after an anti-Semitic incident at Lazio on Sunday.
At most stadiums the minute's silence turned into applause.
But some fans at Roma-Crotone drowned out the reading with team chants.
On Sunday at Rome's Olympic Stadium a section of Lazio fans known as the "ultras" - known for their racist chants and often violent behaviour - left stickers of Holocaust victim Frank in a Roma jersey alongside anti-Semitic slogans such as "Roma fans are Jews".
Italian president Sergio Mattarella called the case "alarming" and Italian police have opened an investigation.
On Wednesday, Lazio players warmed up for their 2-1 win at Bologna in jerseys with an image of Frank and the words "No to anti-Semitism".
Frank became one of the most famous Jewish victims of the Holocaust after her diary of her life as a German Jew in Nazi-occupied Amsterdam in World War Two was published in 1947.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41762423
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Some Juventus fans turned their backs and sang the Italian national anthem during a minute's silence to remember the Holocaust before the Serie A game against SPAL.
A passage of Anne Frank's diary was read before Wednesday's matches, after an anti-Semitic incident at Lazio on Sunday.
At most stadiums the minute's silence turned into applause.
But some fans at Roma-Crotone drowned out the reading with team chants.
On Sunday at Rome's Olympic Stadium a section of Lazio fans known as the "ultras" - known for their racist chants and often violent behaviour - left stickers of Holocaust victim Frank in a Roma jersey alongside anti-Semitic slogans such as "Roma fans are Jews".
Italian president Sergio Mattarella called the case "alarming" and Italian police have opened an investigation.
On Wednesday, Lazio players warmed up for their 2-1 win at Bologna in jerseys with an image of Frank and the words "No to anti-Semitism".
Frank became one of the most famous Jewish victims of the Holocaust after her diary of her life as a German Jew in Nazi-occupied Amsterdam in World War Two was published in 1947.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41762423
largely yes. Anti-semitism is mainstream in most muslim societies its both religiously enshrined and politically too into the culture.
But when called out as anti-semitic most default to "its just Israel or zionism" they are against (which I am against too btw I just dont think its comparable to the brutality of the neighbouring regimes or at any lower moral standing) but you'll often catch them citing the religious justifications for not trusting or befriending jews or conspiracy theories that you'd find in "the protocols of the elders of zion" or engaging in holocaust denial or holocaust minimizing and you'll see the antisemitism show its true colors.
There are people who are truly against only anti-zionism or against the practices of the Israeli state like settlement building and shit like that, and are not antisemites but they are very rare. Most of this group though tend to fall for the implicit racism of low expectations towards Arabic/Islamic culture, meaning they hold non-western countries to a lower standard of morality that these countries have to live up to.
Shiites or half the Indian/Paki/Bangladeshi, Sri Lankan migrant population in the Gulf for example and Saudi Arabia in particular are slave labour and oppressed well beyond Palestinians and live in much worse conditions but you wont find many Arabs really raising a fuss about it. Same goes for homosexuals in basically any Arab or Islamic society or apostates or political opposition (including scum like the Muslim Brotherhood).
I see a lot of Israelis always chalking the heat Israel gets from the western left to antisemitism. "You are obsessed about Israel's violations but none of their worst neighbours because you secretly hate Jews" they say to the western left. I think that is mistaken, it is not that they especially focus on Israel because its Jewish, its rather because they implicitly don't expect much from the Arabs. They expect more out of Israel because because they hold it to western standards while they dont expect much from the arab countries because they hold them to a lower moral standard.
TLDR:
Why do people focus on Israel's violations and not their neighbour's?
1) Most Arabs/Muslims hate Israel due to religious and political anti-Semitism.
2) Most Western Leftists hate Israel not out of antisemitism but rather because they perceive Israel as a western/white country and hold it to a high moral standard and have low expectations of the Arab societies and hold them accountable to a lower standard.
I dont know where zizi is from and he is also more honest about it than the mainstream, hence my surprise.
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Or the treatment of Afghans in Iran. Or Kurds really anywhere. Or southern sudanese by northern ones.
But when called out as anti-semitic most default to "its just Israel or zionism" they are against (which I am against too btw I just dont think its comparable to the brutality of the neighbouring regimes or at any lower moral standing) but you'll often catch them citing the religious justifications for not trusting or befriending jews or conspiracy theories that you'd find in "the protocols of the elders of zion" or engaging in holocaust denial or holocaust minimizing and you'll see the antisemitism show its true colors.
There are people who are truly against only anti-zionism or against the practices of the Israeli state like settlement building and shit like that, and are not antisemites but they are very rare. Most of this group though tend to fall for the implicit racism of low expectations towards Arabic/Islamic culture, meaning they hold non-western countries to a lower standard of morality that these countries have to live up to.
Shiites or half the Indian/Paki/Bangladeshi, Sri Lankan migrant population in the Gulf for example and Saudi Arabia in particular are slave labour and oppressed well beyond Palestinians and live in much worse conditions but you wont find many Arabs really raising a fuss about it. Same goes for homosexuals in basically any Arab or Islamic society or apostates or political opposition (including scum like the Muslim Brotherhood).
I see a lot of Israelis always chalking the heat Israel gets from the western left to antisemitism. "You are obsessed about Israel's violations but none of their worst neighbours because you secretly hate Jews" they say to the western left. I think that is mistaken, it is not that they especially focus on Israel because its Jewish, its rather because they implicitly don't expect much from the Arabs. They expect more out of Israel because because they hold it to western standards while they dont expect much from the arab countries because they hold them to a lower moral standard.
TLDR:
Why do people focus on Israel's violations and not their neighbour's?
1) Most Arabs/Muslims hate Israel due to religious and political anti-Semitism.
2) Most Western Leftists hate Israel not out of antisemitism but rather because they perceive Israel as a western/white country and hold it to a high moral standard and have low expectations of the Arab societies and hold them accountable to a lower standard.
I dont know where zizi is from and he is also more honest about it than the mainstream, hence my surprise.
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Or the treatment of Afghans in Iran. Or Kurds really anywhere. Or southern sudanese by northern ones.
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