Serie A 2016/2017 (32 Viewers)

[pitbull]

I'm sorry, but absolutely no. This is why looking at stats alone, clouds your judgement.


Berardi, is like plenty of these so called "promising strikers" we saw in Belgium. They are quick and will capitalise of poor defending. Kinda explains why Berardi tends to score in baskets instead of 1/2 / game.

He's fast. Limited technique, passing, vision and dribbeling. Decent shot. Will score goals. Thats Berardi. He's a fine league player for a decent team. Put him against a big defence and he's useless cause he lacks the neccecary ability to unlock defences.


Pjaca. Very fast player with a high workrate and stamina. Technically very good, good close controll, and complete dribbeling player. Current juventus player with the highest chance of winning a 1v1. Just watch it. Pjaca close to, or in, the box with 1 player and a little room and he will get past it. he needs to find his spot and adapt, but the greatness is here.

Pjaca's dribbeling style isnt just fancy the shitfuck. Its very effective. Feits or stepovers and opposite of where defender goes. And he isnt one dimensional, he'll literally make the defender put his foot down and picks the best direction, either outside or cutting inside, doesnt matter. Thats the mark of a great dribbeling player who knows where to go to.

Against spain, he had his natural free role down the wing (but the right one). He was terrorising their entire flank and created all kind of issues. What an amazing performance that was tbh.

Here is the deal. When facing a good team you'll have little chances. or face a game completely locked up. Players with the ability to take out players and dive into the box, are what can unbalance a perfectly positionned defence.

Berardi wouldnt do shit.
He'd be a decent sub. Pjaca is a future star.

pls, name me those "big defenses" you're talking about so we better understand your argument.

our best dribbler in the team last few years was Bobby Pereyra, before him Giovinco, both were capable of going past anyone on 1v1, did it do much good? it's not like Pjaca has demonstrated he has a good end product and his work rate is questionable, at least according to Allegri, I'd wait a bit before calling him a future star and Berardi a decent sub

the scenario you mentioned might well be true, but atm it's equally possible Pjaca becomes a Miccoli and Berardi becomes a Vieri

 

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[Siamak]

Juve

 

[piotrr]

Belotti

Italys #9

Our only hope is that he's a typical Italian who wants to live with his Mama til he's 35. Torino (club) will be too small for him, but hey there's this another club in the city...

 

[Zacheryah]

I agree with Zach that berardi hasnt improved and yes he does not striker me as someone who will improve a lot but he is already at a pretty good level and has been for a while. Pjaca has not reached that level of productivity yet at all and is certainly less developed as a player. He offers something different as Zach points out but in doing so he does not offer what berrardi offers either which is a lot for a kid his age.


As for not being selected for Italy, Insigne warmed the bench for much inferior players because he didnt fit conte's plans despite having the season of his life. I wouldnt take that as a metric for comparing the two players.

Buying Berardi is a great investment. He wont get sold to any better team. But he'll be a good bench option for a decade, making 30mil little.

Thing is, we have other priorities

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pls, name me those "big defenses" you're talking about so we better understand your argument.

our best dribbler in the team last few years was Bobby Pereyra, before him Giovinco, both were capable of going past anyone on 1v1, did it do much good? it's not like Pjaca has demonstrated he has a good end product and his work rate is questionable, at least according to Allegri, I'd wait a bit before calling him a future star and Berardi a decent sub

the scenario you mentioned might well be true, but atm it's equally possible Pjaca becomes a Miccoli and Berardi becomes a Vieri

Giovinco and Pereyra ? Please stop beeing completely ridiculous.

Pjaca takes on players 1v1 and gets past them. It has been the highlight of most of his short minutes he got.

Giovinco couldnt get pas a player if his life depends on it, and pereyra made runs avoiding players if there was space.

Pjaca gets a ball and from near standstill gets past opponents with feints and stepovers.


Giovinco and Pereyra.

 

[Durden]

Buying Berardi is a great investment. He wont get sold to any better team. But he'll be a good bench option for a decade, making 30mil little.

Thing is, we have other priorities

What do you think should be our top priorities? If we continue with this system next year I think our top priority should be getting a top LW/RW. If Sanchez really wants out, then he would be the dream, since he can play all attacking positions. I think it will be hard to improve our midfield and defense, and we have good backups there.

 

[Valerio.]

Bernardeschi and a right back since Lich and Alves are 33yrs old
Sadly (because we can't buy wc midfielder and we gotta hope he is good) we already bought Betancour at midfield and playing 2-3man midfield we're already packed with Khedira-Marchisio-Pjanic-Sturaro-Rincon and Betancour.
2 or 3 spots and 6 players. Sadly we can't upgrade there. Unless Khedira leaves this summer.
Marchiso-Pjanic-Sturaro won't leave 100%. We just bought Rincon and Betancour so they're 100% certain to remain the only one who had rumors around is Khedira.
Caldare will stay at Atalanta till 2018 and we'll stick to Bonucci-Chiellini-Barzagli and Rugani and a primavera.

 

[s4tch]

Juventus beats celtic
Celtic beats barcelona
Juventus is superior to barcelona

Juventus just wins 2-0 to 10man porto
Manchester city shoots 5 goals past Monaco
Monaco has an amazing goaldifference record
Manchester City will absolutely murder juventus


Thats what you are basically trying to say.

you wrote that nt performance was actually a thing. it is not, at least not necessarily.

my point was that some hungarian players had a wonderful week, they overperformed for 2-3 matches to win a tough group as underdogs, but their euro performance won't make them better players than they actually are. pjaca is still a rough diamond, regardless of his nt performance.

 

[Signora Omicidi]

I think bentancur will be loaned out.

 

[pitbull]

Giovinco and Pereyra ? Please stop beeing completely ridiculous.

Pjaca takes on players 1v1 and gets past them. It has been the highlight of most of his short minutes he got.

Giovinco couldnt get pas a player if his life depends on it, and pereyra made runs avoiding players if there was space.

Pjaca gets a ball and from near standstill gets past opponents with feints and stepovers.


Giovinco and Pereyra.

ok, lets stop this, enough Zach for one day, you're strange man

 

[j0ker]

He came to conclusions that Coman was great from a 7 second clip and you guys are surprised that he is overrating Pjaca after a full game.

 

[Ocelot]

Juve

Those stats are ridiculous.

We never even conceded more than one goal per match.

 

[Zacheryah]

He came to conclusions that Coman was great from a 7 second clip and you guys are surprised that he is overrating Pjaca after a full game.

Coman was actually great at Bayern under Guardiola to say the least

And i've been rating pjaca since the spain game and he only confirmed since




Please, try better, that was peasant level poor attempt

 

[pitbull]

Coman was actually great at Bayern under Guardiola to say the least

And i've been rating pjaca since the spain game and he only confirmed since




Please, try better, that was peasant level poor attempt

coman also > berardi? got tempted again

 

[DAiDEViL]

ok, lets stop this, enough Zach for one day, you're strange man

He seems to forget about Cuadrado too. Easily better at 1 on 1's than Pjaca.

He came to conclusions that Coman was great from a 7 second clip and you guys are surprised that he is overrating Pjaca after a full game.

 

[Siamak]

Those stats are ridiculous.

We never even conceded more than one goal per match.

True bro
someone posted in telegram channel.i will punish him.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Still sad Zamp has left Serie A.


Gonna be a lot less entertaining

Job centre will be a lot less quieter too

 

[DAiDEViL]

Immobile:

“The only thing I couldn’t understand is that after that season at Pescara, [Marco] Verratti went to Paris Saint-Germain and [Lorenzo] Insigne went back to Napoli...while I went to Genoa.

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[Hust]

Ciro

 

[Orgut]

Berardi seems on the way to Inter - Honestly I dont really think I want him at Juve and I dont care he signs for Inter - He is a stats guy but I dont think he is really that good...
25M - We got Pjaca who has so much more potential IMO and for less than the 25M suggested for Berardi...
Also IMO Coman>Berardi

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He seems to forget about Cuadrado too. Easily better at 1 on 1's than Pjaca.

Cuadrado is one of the best 1 on 1 player in the world

 

[Ocelot]

True bro
someone posted in telegram channel.i will punish him.

Which telegram channel?