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Vialli_92

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Mar 7, 2013
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Apparently Lotito wasn't willing to bring new players in so he quit. I dont know if it's true or not but one of my Lazio friends said that was the reason.
 

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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That's Bielsa, he truly doesn't give a fuck. But there are rumours he quit because he was offered to coach Argentina.
Bielsa could be just what they need now that half the team retired. he is great choice to introduce the new upcoming stars like Dybala an Icunti and build a new team
 

Collaguazo

Pezuña Brava
Mar 4, 2012
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The 5 steps for happiness according to bielsa:

1. Be generous with everybody
2. Have faith, believe in something
3. Family and love
4. Succes
5. "I am still looking for the fifth one but I can't find it"

In a training session he asked the players if they wanted to play with a 4 men defense or 3 men. "Okay let's vote" He took out the votes 1 by 1 and wrote them on a blackboard. 4 men defense.. 4 men defense.. 4 men defense

"Well it's clear that you all prefer a 4 men defense, so we are playing with 3. Thank you, bye"
 

Emmet

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Apr 5, 2006
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Supposedly he asked for 5 players, and Lotito never even contacted the clubs of the players he asked for, so he walked.

Couldn't blame him, Lotito as nearly as bad as Zamp.
 

DutchJuventino

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Apr 9, 2015
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Juve players to Serie B:

Andrea Schiavone to Cesena (don't know if on loan or not)
Mattia Vitale on loan to Cesena
Simone Ganz on loan to Hellas Verona
Didiba Moudoumou on loan to Perugia

SAUCE: transfermarkt

Vitale to Cesena and Ganz to Hellas seems interesting :)
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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Supposedly he asked for 5 players, and Lotito never even contacted the clubs of the players he asked for, so he walked.

Couldn't blame him, Lotito as nearly as bad as Zamp.
Couldnt blame him? FFS this is all on Bielsa, complete disrespect breach of contract WITHIN DAYS OF SIGNING IT. Most of the guys here lost their shit at Conte despite being hesistant to stay 2-3 months before he abruptly left, but this is one of the worst craziest way to treat a club by a coach hands down, read this:


The Coach announced he would not be taking the job just two days after the club deposited his signed contract with the Lega Serie A.

He claimed Lazio broke promises by failing to sign any reinforcements before pre-season training and therefore the contract was void.

Simone Inzaghi has been appointed instead, having already taken charge of the side in April when Stefano Pioli was sacked.

Lawyer Gianmichele Gentile started the conference by giving the legal outlines of the contract.

“This rapport started towards the middle of June and had a series of verbal negotiations before reaching a contract proposal that the Coach sent to Lazio and the club replied with its own proposal.

“Then director Armando Calveri went to Argentina to finalise negotiations, bringing back the contract dated July 1, which was deposited with the Lega.

“It is a bulky contract at 13 pages and has certain privacy clauses. Coach Bielsa had already sent in his first proposal a sort of Decalogue of requests that were analytically listed, many of them unnecessarily, as these are the usual rules of contracts.

“He had it written in that he’d have sole control over tactics to be used in every game, timing of training sessions and locker room discussions. We followed all of these, including the choice of his technical staff, who were indeed hired.”

Gentile read out a very long list of fairly basic contractual clauses confirming his determination to be in control of all decisions, or at least informed of them well in advance.

“I have to say that the club took on these obligations on July 1, the date of the contractual signature. The negotiations lasted 15-20 days.

“The correspondence breaking this contract was sent on July 7. How could these terms have been broken in the space of seven days when this person never even set foot in Italy during that time.

“After exchanging messages with Bielsa’s lawyer, his response was that the Coach would be here at Formello today and would be leaving with the team for the training camp this weekend.

“There are no clauses tied to the transfer market. Not one word is related to transfers or signings. There are no deadlines, no mentions of buys, nothing of the kind.

“I give my personal opinion, which is that he tried to create an excuse to break the contract. Presumably something happened to make him change his mind between July 1 and 7, because there is no objective event that justifies what Bielsa did.

“The contract was deposited because Bielsa was waiting for the work visa and he could not have entered the country without a contract being deposited. If we had not done that, he would’ve remained in Argentina and said it was our fault he couldn’t come to Italy.

“The evening of July 7 we learned of Bielsa’s decision. We sent a letter welcoming him to Lazio and saying we were waiting for him. The next morning, this message arrived.

“We assumed the delay was because he had to close up his home in Argentina and pack for such a big move. Every day the departure was postponed. On the night of July 7 we asked when he was coming.

“The contract is under Italian jurisdiction, so Lazio will be protected as if Bielsa was an Italian Coach. We can go to various different tribunals and will evaluate with the President what is to be done.

“We can be certain that Lazio will not stand by and suffer this violence, this unjustified breaking of a contract.”

What will Lazio do if Bielsa is, as expected, appointed as the next Coach of Argentina?

“Just as Bielsa violated this contract, he could easily violate anything else. We cannot make any predictions. If the Argentine Federation does not recognise this contract, then we’ll see if we need to get FIFA involved.

“What we want right now is damages for the unjustified breaking of the contract, damages done to the club’s image and value. We have not specified a sum, but there is an important demand for damages.

“He failed to fulfil his contractual obligations. This is a work contract, so it is as if we had hired someone who then didn't turn up to work without a justifiable reason and is therefore sacked. He essentially sacked himself. Not turning up damages the employer and forces them into numerous changes, so he is therefore at fault and owes damages."
 

Ocelot

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Jul 13, 2013
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Couldnt blame him? FFS this is all on Bielsa, complete disrespect breach of contract WITHIN DAYS OF SIGNING IT. Most of the guys here lost their shit at Conte despite being hesistant to stay 2-3 months before he abruptly left, but this is one of the worst craziest way to treat a club by a coach hands down, read this:
Bielso signed due to the club promising 4-5 new specific players by the 5th of July.

So the date rolls around, no signing is announced, and Bielsa calls the clubs of these players to see what happened - they tell him Lazio never even enquired about their players.

http://www.football-italia.net/87052/bielsa-lazio-broke-promises

Understandable imo
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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Why? Since when is a coach in charge of the direction of transfers? It's hardly breach of contract to have different targets. Even more so when it's only been days?


Much more likely this crazy mofo saw the argie post opening up and bailed ship.

I detest Lotito but it's hardly on his club this rash shit happend. Except they should known who they were dealing with.
 

Ocelot

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Jul 13, 2013
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Why? Since when is a coach in charge of the direction of transfers? It's hardly breach of contract to have different targets. Even more so when it's only been days?


Much more likely this crazy mofo saw the argie post opening up and bailed ship.

I detest Lotito but it's hardly on his club this rash shit happend. Except they should known who they were dealing with.
He's not in charge, but the club blatantly lied to him before his contract even started, in matters that were decisive in him deciding to join the club.
 

jukazem

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Feb 10, 2007
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Why? Since when is a coach in charge of the direction of transfers? It's hardly breach of contract to have different targets. Even more so when it's only been days?

I detest Lotito but it's hardly on his club this rash shit happend. Except they should known who they were dealing with.
Absolutely no reason for Bielsa to join Lazio given Lotito, Beilsa knew who he was dealing with and hence requested those conditions. He followed up on them and realised he was being duped, left his employment contract early so that Lazio weren't overly invested into it. Unfair to say the breach of contract was from Bielsa's end only if Lazio don't keep the promises that made Bielsa sign in the first place.
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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He's not in charge, but the club blatantly lied to him before his contract even started, in matters that were decisive in him deciding to join the club.
Based on?

Read this:

“We wanted to create an important project with a long-term contract for one of the most important Coaches in the world,” said Tare in a Press conference.
“He rejected this and the offer of one year plus an option for another season based on certain objectives. He rejected that too, so we reached a verbal agreement on a one-year contract.”
Bielsa claimed in his statement that Lazio broke the terms of the contract by not signing any of the players he requested, but Tare denied that.
“We got the all-clear from Bielsa for Jardel and Adriano, as well as other objectives. We agreed four signings: a centre-back, a left-back, a winger in case Antonio Candreva leaves, and a striker.
“In Argentina, Bielsa is doubting the buys of Jardel, Adriano and Ajeti. I went to France in order to view (Albania defender Arlind) Ajeti and buy him.
“It’s true we wanted a player called Llorente, but it was not the Sevilla one Fernando, it was the Real Madrid player. It was a dry loan for €500,000, guaranteeing he’d play 80 per cent of games from the start.
“On the left, Bielsa had proposed (Chile international Jean) Beausejour. He would’ve been the alternative to Adriano. I am currently negotiating for a player at Euro 2016.
“Enner Valencia wants Lazio, but we cannot be in control of the timing of negotiations. By the end of next week we were set to have two buys, one of them Valencia.
“So we did get the four players Bielsa requested. He wanted another €30m on the market and we did that.”
Bielsa was particularly angry at the failure to capture Alexandre Pato.
“I was in talks with Pato and met his agent here in Rome on Wednesday to formulate a four-year contract proposal, an economically important one.
“From the first day, Bielsa knew what Lazio’s salary standards are and the players with the highest wages. I can say Pato would’ve been one of the three highest-paid players at Lazio, close to Miroslav Klose’s deal.
“Bielsa wanted Pato at all costs and guaranteed to me he would get the best out of Pato. He’s a talented player with quality, but also physical problems.
“I spoke to Pato and he said he wanted to stay at Corinthians until December 30. For personal reasons, Pato did not want to leave Brazil.
“I put Bielsa in direct contact with Valencia, Pato and another player I will not name. Bielsa told us in 37 years as a Coach he had never seen a club so eager to have him. We had hoped, with the personal rapport that was created, things would go well.
“Unfortunately, his nickname speaks volumes.”
Bielsa is known as ‘El Loco’ – the crazy one.
“I got to know an exceptional person and I always told him how great it would be for Lazio and Serie A to have Bielsa here. From the start I knew what bringing Bielsa to Lazio would mean.
"We did have a bit of a lively discussion the night before he sent that message. It was regarding Pato, as he heard from a third party that there were problems due to figures that were absolutely not close to the truth. I put him in contact directly with Pato's agent to clarify the situation.
"Unfortunately yes, there are people who try to put a spanner in the works for the Lazio project".
 
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