[Serie A, 14th round] Genoa 3-1 JUVENTUS [27th November, 2016] (1 Viewer)

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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Well, our players consist of Grosso,Motta,De Ceglie,Iaquinta,Luca Toni,Pazienza,Krasic,Elia,Giacherini,Estigaribia,Pepe.....,not to mention other "stars".And we came from seventh place before that season with new and at that time not well recognized coach.Also he was absent from the pitch something like 7 months about accusations of allegedly match fixing. Meanwhile our current coach was with that team for a second season after being awarded as a best Serie A coach with Cagliari and winning a title with Milan.So it was him who lose the title but of course we must mention Conte's insane dedication to Juve and working and his Juve DNA, but primary it was Alegri who lost the title rather than we won it like we, at the end won.The first of five .And yes ,we always have Gigi,even in Serie B.
remember where we came from :touched:

also, Conte only missed few months the season after that, so 2012/13, he was always there in 2011/12. another thing, our campaign that season was truly great, Conte, Marotta and the team duid a brilliant job, thats for sure. but if you look at the list bellow, and see how much each of our stars and key performers played, and copare it to Milans list, you will notice that we had a lot less trouble with injuries than they did. we didnt have CL, we fielded our B team in the Coppa so we had our strongest XI fit and ready for most of the Serie A games, a luxus that Mlan didnt have. Milans stars were old and declining, the only 2 truly great stars for them that season were Ibra and Silva, they had several key players missing out a lot of games, yet they still managed to win 80 pts despite so many troubles (only 2 less than the season before when they were champions) and were going to eliminate Barcelona in the CL QF if the ref didnt think otherwise, so cant really call that a failure from Allegri. underachievement yes, since they were the favorites for the scudetto and had the strongest team on paper, and most didnt consider us a threat (unrightfully) before the season begun, but to be fair to him, if he had most of the team fit all the time, im not gonna say he would have won the title, but who knows what would have happened if they had their strongest XI available in the game vs Fiorentina for example, or in that loss to inter 2 games before the season ended...



here is the same list as above for our players btw:

Pirlo 3317 min 37 GP 37 GS
Buffon 3150 min 35 GP 35 GS
Marchisio 3045 min 36 GP 35 GS
Chiellini 3025 min 34 GP 34 GS
Barzagli 3013 min 35 GP 34 GS
Lichtsteiner 2965 min 35 GP 34 GS
Vidal 2637 min 33 GP 30 GS
Bonucci 2637 min 32 GP 28 GS
Vučinić 2306 min 32 GP 29 GS

Pepe 2202 min 31 GP 25 GS
Matri 1922 min 31 GP 23 GS
De Ceglie 1347 min 21 GP 16 GS
Giaccherini 1198 min 23 GP 9 GS
Quagliarella 880 min 23 GP 9 GS
Estigarribia 721 min 14 GP 9 GS
Cáceres 711 min 11 GP 6 GS
Borriello 587 min 13 GP 6 GS
Del Piero 498 min 23 GP 4 GS
Krasić 305 min 7 GP 4 GS
Padoin 300 min 6 GP 3 GS
Storari 270 min 3 GP 3 GS
Grosso 180 min 2 GP 2 GS
Pazienza 144 min 8 GP 1 GS
Marrone 114 min 3 GP 1 GS
Elia 94 min 4 GP 1 GS

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i didnt bold out Matri and Pepe, but they both were extremely important players that season, but dont classify as stars

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Caceres too btw, in the 2nd half of the season, especially when he played LWB instead of our DJ
 

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pitbull

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injured? thats the starting XI they fielded in the game vs Fiorentina you mentioned, i dont remember what he status of those players were at the time....


and generally if you look at their team from that season you will notice that most of their star players missed a lot of games:
(stats for 2011/12 season; min - minutes played, GP - games played, GS - games started)

Nocerino 2964 min 35 GP 33 GS
Ibrahimović 2811 min 32 GP 32 GS
Abbiati 2691 min 31 GP 31 GS
Abate 2598 min 29 GP 29 GS
Thiago Silva 2294 min 27 GP 27 GS
van Bommel 2003 min 25 GP 22 GS
Robinho 1766 min 28 GP 21 GS
Emanuelson 1666 min 30 GP 17 GS
Bonera 1471 min 20 GP 17 GS
Antonini 1466 min 20 GP 17 GS
Nesta 1429 min 17 GP 16 GS
Ambrosini 1412 min 22 GP 17 GS
Aquilani 1394 min 23 GP 14 GS
Boateng 1381 min 19 GP 15 GS
Mexès 1182 min 14 GP 13 GS
Seedorf 1157 min 18 GP 14 GS
Muntari 1099 min 13 GP 13 GS
Cassano 1005 min 16 GP 11 GS
Zambrotta 984 min 12 GP 10 GS
Yepes 916 min 11 GP 10 GS
El Shaarawy 786 min 22 GP 6 GS
Amelia 729 min 9 GP 7 GS
Mesbah 674 min 8 GP 7 GS
Pato 536 min 11 GP 7 GS
Taiwo 321 min 4 GP 4 GS
Gattuso 258 min 6 GP 4 GS
De Sciglio 248 min 3 GP 2 GS
López 246 min 8 GP 2 GS
Flamini 97 min 2 GP 0 GS
Inzaghi 62 min 7 GP 0 GS

i bolded out their most known players from that squad. you can see that Inzaghi and Gattuso barely even played, Zambrotta a little more than them but still too insignificant. Seedorf, Ambrosini, Nesta all less than 1500 minutes (which is how much Rugani or Morata played for us last season for example, in the league only). Ibra, Silva and van Bommel were the only "stars" with 2000+ minutes and you got players like Nocerino, Abate, Robinho, Bonera or Antonini getting key minutes that season. seriously, if it wasnt for Ibra and Silva, im not even sure Milan would have qualified for CL that season
maybe he wouldn't have to give Nocerino almost 3000 minutes if a certain italian midfielder wouldn't have left on a free during summer :p
 

Fr3sh

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2011
36,949
remember where we came from :touched:

also, Conte only missed few months the season after that, so 2012/13, he was always there in 2011/12. another thing, our campaign that season was truly great, Conte, Marotta and the team duid a brilliant job, thats for sure. but if you look at the list bellow, and see how much each of our stars and key performers played, and copare it to Milans list, you will notice that we had a lot less trouble with injuries than they did. we didnt have CL, we fielded our B team in the Coppa so we had our strongest XI fit and ready for most of the Serie A games, a luxus that Mlan didnt have. Milans stars were old and declining, the only 2 truly great stars for them that season were Ibra and Silva, they had several key players missing out a lot of games, yet they still managed to win 80 pts despite so many troubles (only 2 less than the season before when they were champions) and were going to eliminate Barcelona in the CL QF if the ref didnt think otherwise, so cant really call that a failure from Allegri. underachievement yes, since they were the favorites for the scudetto and had the strongest team on paper, and most didnt consider us a threat (unrightfully) before the season begun, but to be fair to him, if he had most of the team fit all the time, im not gonna say he would have won the title, but who knows what would have happened if they had their strongest XI available in the game vs Fiorentina for example, or in that loss to inter 2 games before the season ended...



here is the same list as above for our players btw:

Pirlo 3317 min 37 GP 37 GS
Buffon 3150 min 35 GP 35 GS
Marchisio 3045 min 36 GP 35 GS
Chiellini 3025 min 34 GP 34 GS
Barzagli 3013 min 35 GP 34 GS
Lichtsteiner 2965 min 35 GP 34 GS
Vidal 2637 min 33 GP 30 GS
Bonucci 2637 min 32 GP 28 GS
Vučinić 2306 min 32 GP 29 GS

Pepe 2202 min 31 GP 25 GS
Matri 1922 min 31 GP 23 GS
De Ceglie 1347 min 21 GP 16 GS
Giaccherini 1198 min 23 GP 9 GS
Quagliarella 880 min 23 GP 9 GS
Estigarribia 721 min 14 GP 9 GS
Cáceres 711 min 11 GP 6 GS
Borriello 587 min 13 GP 6 GS
Del Piero 498 min 23 GP 4 GS
Krasić 305 min 7 GP 4 GS
Padoin 300 min 6 GP 3 GS
Storari 270 min 3 GP 3 GS
Grosso 180 min 2 GP 2 GS
Pazienza 144 min 8 GP 1 GS
Marrone 114 min 3 GP 1 GS
Elia 94 min 4 GP 1 GS

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i didnt bold out Matri and Pepe, but they both were extremely important players that season, but dont classify as stars

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Caceres too btw, in the 2nd half of the season, especially when he played LWB instead of our DJ
Still butthurt that we got to see more of Herpiello and useless Matree then our beloved Captain :(
 

Fr3sh

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2011
36,949
:ghey:

Next season Max will terminate Antonio's Chelsea.

Antonio in CL nights:

"His palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy
There's vomit on his sweater already, mom's spaghetti, he's nervous..."

@Fr3sh
And then after he wins back to back trebles, he'll take Conte's job and only deliver the CL on purpose, gets fired by Abramovich, then comes back to win another treble with us.
 

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