Sergio Agüero - ST - Atletico Madrid (43 Viewers)

[Hust]

good point

It is a good point when you also consider how Napoli would not have survived this year without Cavani banging in goals considering how weak their defense is.

You need a very strong offense that knows how to unluck the weak teams. Milan/Napoli showed that and so does Inter...you don't need Maicon to win the league.

 

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[Flamez]

Melo could also be sold as well...and if we overpay for these two FBs you want we wouldn't have money to through around on Hazard. I feel like I am on repeat.

I'm not saying we should buy Coentrão and Lahm instead of Aguero because I know we can't afford that, but if we had an hypothetical chance to do that it'd be an obviously pick for me.

Btw, I'm the first wanting Kun for this team as I somehow know we'll end up with any hyped Serie A player if we don't sign him and as I rate Lichtsteiner nicely (we still need to sign him, though). We need to investe in a good LB next season, anyway, unless Ziegler turns out to be a surprise.

So it is overpaying when buying a world class full back, but it's not when buying a world class support striker? I don't understand that logic.

This is true too. Aguero for 45M is overpriced, even if I'd take him for that price.

 

[Klin]

It is when you consider he wants to leave the club and they would have 45m to spend on a proper replacement(s) whereas 2 full backs in a market when full backs are in short supply you better believe both clubs would rape us in the fee and with no CL they would need a pretty big golden handshake to agree to come under those conditions.

The logic is, granted all 3 I mentioned would be hard to get we could more easily convince Kun to come than the 2 fullbacks. The full backs would be hard as hell to get for reasons already repeated a million times.

Let's get Aguero for €45M then and leave the coach to get the defense work together. After all, as you said, that's what makes a good defense, right? Let's blame the coach again after it keeps on failing too. Wooptie-fuckin-doo.

 

[Bjerknes]

You would have the best FBs in the world (in my opinion) and also a good striker in Quagliarella. Otherwise, you would have a great striker in Aguero mixed with a poor LB and a good RB. I don't even think twice in this one.

Probably you don't watch Coentrão that often and just think he's overrated, but he isn't.

I've seen enough of Coentrao in Europe and with Portugal.

We have been over this before then. You prefer overpaying for world class fullbacks instead of for attacking players. The problem with this logic is that in today's game, you're not going to win anything if your fullbacks are your best players. The net effect they have on the team is less than someone who puts points on the board, it's as simple as that.

 

[Klin]

It is a good point when you also consider how Napoli would not have survived this year without Cavani banging in goals considering how weak their defense is.

You need a very strong offense that knows how to unluck the weak teams. Milan/Napoli showed that and so does Inter...you don't need Maicon to win the league.

Even though for some reasoning I don't know which, in Serie A, the team with the best defense seems to be winning the league most of the times.

 

[Hust]

Let's get Aguero for €45M then and leave the coach to get the defense work together. After all, as you said, that's what makes a good defense, right? Let's blame the coach again after it keeps on failing too. Wooptie-fuckin-doo.

Raineri got second with Molinaro/Grygera...what makes you think after a Licht/Ziegler upgrade our defense is going to not do better than last year?

 

[Hust]

Come to think of it, does anyone want to take a stab as to why we got 2nd under Ranieri?

 

[Hust]

Even though for some reasoning I don't know which, in Serie A, the team with the best defense seems to be winning the league most of the times.

And most of the time they are able to beat the small teams that defend for 90 mins.

 

[Hust]

I've seen enough of Coentrao in Europe and with Portugal.

We have been over this before then. You prefer overpaying for world class fullbacks instead of for attacking players. The problem with this logic is that in today's game, you're not going to win anything if your fullbacks are your best players. The net effect they have on the team is less than someone who puts points on the board, it's as simple as that.

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Even though for some reasoning I don't know which, in Serie A, the team with the best defense seems to be winning the league most of the times.

There is your answer Klin.

 

[JuveJay]

Apologies for the distressing images.

 

[Kasaki]

Look all i know is
hazard+sanchez/pastore = 3rd place

 

[Bjerknes]

I'd much rather have world class players located at in the middle of the pitch than outside. If you're strong through the middle, especially at the back and centrally in midfield, you'll usually do well. Your fullbacks might be trashy but your central players will make up for it. So I'd say if you're that worried about the fullbacks that you want to spend 25M on one, we might as well use that money for a CB to partner Chiellini.

 

[Bjerknes]

Even though for some reasoning I don't know which, in Serie A, the team with the best defense seems to be winning the league most of the times.

But a number of things contribute to having the best defense, including ball management and possession. Milan doesn't have the best back four in Serie A but they had fewest goals against, so that should be rather telling.

 

[Flamez]

Hazard & Aguero > Lahm & Coentrão

No doubt about that too. Two game changers are different than one.

I've seen enough of Coentrao in Europe and with Portugal.

We have been over this before then. You prefer overpaying for world class fullbacks instead of for attacking players. The problem with this logic is that in today's game, you're not going to win anything if your fullbacks are your best players. The net effect they have on the team is less than someone who puts points on the board, it's as simple as that.

No, I prefer two great FBs rather than one great striker. I'll be also pleased if we end up with a great striker as we can't afford Lahm and Coentrão... but probably we can't afford Kun aswell. And I don't see much more champion strikers capable of carrying our team next season.

I rate Sanchez highly, but I think he can't do that for us, unlike Kun.

 

[Hust]

But a number of things contribute to having the best defense, including ball management and possession. Milan doesn't have the best back four in Serie A but they had fewest goals against, so that should be rather telling.

I've been mentioning possession and controlling the game yet people seem to fail to understand how that results in conceding or not conceding. Maybe you can explain it better than I can but its like talking to a wall.

 

[Albo]

Look all i know is
hazard+sanchez/pastore = 3rd place

3rd place ?? If we menage to get them we can fight for scudetto .

 

[Gian]

But a number of things contribute to having the best defense, including ball management and possession. Milan doesn't have the best back four in Serie A but they had fewest goals against, so that should be rather telling.

I think Juve falling down, Inter not having a good first half of the season with Benitez, Napoli never becoming a contender were more essential in Milan's scudetto than anything mentioned here.

Look at Milan's CL results:
AC Milan 2 - 0 AJ Auxerre
Ajax 1 - 1 AC Milan
Real Madrid 2 - 0 AC Milan
AC Milan 2 - 2 Real Madrid
AJ Auxerre 0 - 2 AC Milan
AC Milan 0 - 2 Ajax
AC Milan 0 - 1 Tottenham Hotspur FC

In other words: they only won to Auxerre twice, drew RM due to Inzaghi once and drew Ajax due to an offside goal. Milan sucks bigtime even with their frontline, it's just this mediocre Italian league why they look good.

 

[Bjerknes]

I've been mentioned possession and controling the game yet people seem to fail to understand how that results in conceding or not conceding. Maybe you can explain it better than I can but its like talking to a wall.

Well, you've played the game, Cam. Things become more clear when you're actually on the pitch seeing how things work in first person.

 

[Luca]

Buffon
Lichtensteiner-Bonucci-Chiellni-Ziegler
Melo-Pirlo-Inler
Krasic-Matri-Kun​

is a lot better than

Buffon
Lahm-bonucci-chiellini-Coentrao
Krasic-Pirlo-Inler-Pepe
Matri-Quag​

Not that I don't agree with you but your biggest flaw us that you always state your personal opinion as fact.

 

[Gabriel]

Yeah, but Van Bommel (who plays a huge part in their midfield) and Cassano weren't available for CL.