Sebastian Giovinco (73 Viewers)

Would you bring Giovinco back next season?

  • Yeah, we could use him

  • Nope, get rid of him


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only-juve

Senior Member
Jan 5, 2008
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For once i wish to see our team with a certain style. We have the players in the midfield to do that (diego, gio, camo, melo and even sissoko).

I think this whole "italian mentality" of being too cautious and always changing tactics depending on the opposite teams is what made them lack behind in europe in recent years. We are Juve for god's sake we shouldn't be too cautious with sampdoria.

We have the players to play an attacking game and we can beat the shit out of them if we approuch that game with the right motivation and attacked them the way we've attacked Maccabi in the CL.
 

blondu

Grazie Ale
Nov 9, 2006
27,408
true man that think about the defensive aspect..if we concieded goals when we used 7 players (4 defensmen and 3 dm's... 8 players total with buffon) especially for the defence, what we shall do if we play diego camo and gio for midfield from the start.
 

only-juve

Senior Member
Jan 5, 2008
7,451
That's what I've been saying. Doesn't really matter what formation we use as we have been shite. But a 4-2-3-1 would leave our crappy fullbacks even more vulnerable.
We're not playing against Barca !! Sampdoria is a decent team that plays decent football but we have two choices with the current team:

We either gonna play with the clueless 4-3-1-2 where Diego is completely isolated and our strikers are running around with absalutely no game plan. That way sampdoria will attack us aggressively and we either gonna get a draw (if we're lucky) or Lose.

Or we can play with a more attacking 4-2-3-1 where we can really cause some serious problems to them. Create a lot of chances and stoping their players from pushing forward during the game. Our fullbacks are not as bad as many thinks they are. Both Grosso and grygera are "Ok" defensively. We can definately manage against Sampdoria's wingers.
 
Apr 17, 2009
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You say that like we can break down 11 man teams playing reasonably well. Haha, some members on this forum live in dream land. You think we're going to outscore them? That's a joke at best. We struggled to outscore Siena. The chances of us outscoring Samp are slim to none. Lets be realistic.

Sampdoria on the other hand have no problem getting on the scoresheet. We most definitely cannot play such a risky game against good opposition like that. If we lose this game we'll be, possibly, 7 points behind Inter at this early stage.

Our defense struggles as it is against bad teams so they're gonna have one hell of a time keeping up with the Blucerchiati.
 

engireman

Junior Member
May 26, 2009
136
As reported on our website, Iaquinta injured for long time and we just left 2 strikers, Trezeguet and Amauri. So Ferrara will use Giovinco in coming matches in because of lack of strikers and also crowded matches in just 2 weeks.
I think that Ferrara will use his newly tested formation of 4:3:2:1 and 4:2:3:1 until the Captian returns.
 

only-juve

Senior Member
Jan 5, 2008
7,451
You say that like we can break down 11 man teams playing reasonably well. Haha, some members on this forum live in dream land. You think we're going to outscore them? That's a joke at best. We struggled to outscore Siena. The chances of us outscoring Samp are slim to none. Lets be realistic.

Sampdoria on the other hand have no problem getting on the scoresheet. We most definitely cannot play such a risky game against good opposition like that. If we lose this game we'll be, possibly, 7 points behind Inter at this early stage.

Our defense struggles as it is against bad teams so they're gonna have one hell of a time keeping up with the Blucerchiati.
I don't know if you've watched our game against Maccabi but we've played probably one of our best games against them (specially in the first half). And what have changed in our team ?! Our tactics and formation.

The problem is we're not struggling right now because we have an injury crisis or lack of motivation. We're simply not getting the best out of our players (diego, melo and the rest). The 4-3-1-2 formation is not working well with us it doesn't take a rocket scientist to reallize that.

So we either gonna play that way for the rest of the season and scratch out a win (if we're lucky) the way we did against the likes of Siena and chievo or lucky draws against bayern munich and bordeaux. But one thing is for sure, if we keep playing that way "we will not" win anything Neither in italy or Europe.
 
Apr 17, 2009
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I don't know if you've watched our game against Maccabi but we've played probably one of our best games against them (specially in the first half). And what have changed in our team ?! Our tactics and formation.

The problem is we're not struggling right now because we have an injury crisis or lack of motivation. We're simply not getting the best out of our players (diego, melo and the rest). The 4-3-1-2 formation is not working well with us it doesn't take a rocket scientist to reallize that.

So we either gonna play that way for the rest of the season and scratch out a win (if we're lucky) the way we did against the likes of Siena and chievo or lucky draws against bayern munich and bordeaux. But one thing is for sure, if we keep playing that way "we will not" win anything Neither in italy or Europe.
Are you serious? You think we played our best game against against a team we should have beaten like 5-0? I wasn't impressed at all. We scraped a 1-0 victory against a 10 man team we should have pounded into next week. That was definitely not our best performance of the season. Sure we looked good against a bunch of nobodies but Samp will be looking to prove a point and they're much better then any Maccabi Haifa side.

Sure Giovinco looked good running at bad defenders but it was definitely not our best performance of the season. Saying that it was just shows you don't know much about this team or their current form or even football in general. Juventus beating Maccabi 1-0 is not and will never be a good result for us. We should be demolishing them.

Facts are facts and scraping a 1-0 win against Maccabi Haifa in the 2nd half is not our best performance of the season so far. The three points help us out in the CL but a 1-0 for a team of our caliber against a team of their caliber is sad. We should have won by a much larger margin.

Sorry to bust your bubble but 4-3-1-2 is what you're going to be seeing for quite a while. We don't have the depth to use a 4-2-3-1 any more then sporadically. No backup wingers and bad fullbacks. That's a recipe for disaster. We still need time to gel with the new players and formation. Changes like these don't just happen over night. A lot has changed in a short period of time. We won't get the best out of our players either if we keep chopping and changing everything week in and week out. We need consistency and to build confidence in the players but also need them to have confidence in each other.

There is a reason we have only used the 4-2-3-1 once. It's not going to be what we're building this team into 1. And it leaves our shaky defense more vulnerable than it already is 2. Some people expect miracles with this team. This isn't the team from 5 or 6 years ago it's something completely new and thus needs time to find it's own identity and playing style.
 

Ahmed

Principino
Sep 3, 2006
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Showdown, the 4-2-3-1 means you fill up the MF and have attacking wingers, hence blunting the need for active FBs...I think in our current situation we should emply that formation, long-term I think 4-3-1-2 can work, but needs some serious work
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,177
Showdown. Get it through your thick skull man. I am not disputing the fact that Sampdoria have been playing some great football, and even beat Inter; however, we are Juve, and we are playing at home, meaning we need to impose ourselves on them, and make them worry about us, not vice versa.
 
Apr 17, 2009
1,890
Showdown. Get it through your thick skull man. I am not disputing the fact that Sampdoria have been playing some great football, and even beat Inter; however, we are Juve, and we are playing at home, meaning we need to impose ourselves on them, and make them worry about us, not vice versa.
And when is the last time we did that at home? Matter of fact when is that last time we imposed ourselves on any team? The chemistry just isn't there yet. So, it's at best, wishful thinking.
 
Apr 17, 2009
1,890
Showdown, the 4-2-3-1 means you fill up the MF and have attacking wingers, hence blunting the need for active FBs...I think in our current situation we should emply that formation, long-term I think 4-3-1-2 can work, but needs some serious work

We'd be stretched brutally thin if we used that formation though. No backup wingers. At all. So if we lost Camo or Gio it would be the end of that formation. You guys have only see us play that formation against a bad team. And we didn't impress.
 

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