Sebastian Giovinco (17 Viewers)

Would you bring Giovinco back next season?

  • Yeah, we could use him

  • Nope, get rid of him


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SABSAB

Snoop Stinks
Dec 10, 2008
10,832
You got me wrong there. I didn't say he was horrible all season.
But he is totally of form in my opinion. And right now we can't need a striker who waste chance after chance.
I say give him a break before he starts runnig amok on the field because of not scoring ;)
 

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Mar 14, 2004
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The problem is Gio can't be Dp's successor. He's just an offensive midfielder. His finishing skills aren't impressive either as I can recall. So....if he can't live up expectations and be a super Diego-sub he's better elsewhere. Marchisio and camo can cover teqra-role if needed just fine. And I would like to see Cassano in Juve shirt. He's only natural playmaking forward in the world beside DP right now.... (ok,you can count in Ibra,Messi...)
 

Ahmed

Principino
Sep 3, 2006
47,928
there must have been some, like the fluffed PK vs. Bate, but clear 100% chances that should have been a goal? not really

I've also seen some great goals as well, especially the magical 1-2 he played with Ale in the Coppa Italia match vs. Catania
 
Mar 14, 2004
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Well you better get yourself a telly and a proper subscription cuz those strams will distroy you. I remeber one....it was my birthday last year and Italy played Croatian yount NT in Varaždin..... he missed a sitter.

oh,we have even documented that:

http://english.gazzetta.it/Football/Primo_Piano/2008/09/09/CroaziaItalia.shtml

So,from a LIVE expirience I can say his finishing is poor :)
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,615
Easy, you are making it sound like Amauri has been horrible all season and that he is a Serie B player. Stop exaggerating, the guy has been bad for two games.
amauri is not that good either. He is our worst forward. His dribbling sucks yet constantly attempts to dribble, thinking he is zlatan. his finishing is poor as well as his positioning and pace. Amauri strength is his header goals.
IQ is more physical with a slightly higher pace, the much better finisher and is equivalent in heading the ball.
Both players are almost copies, but IQ is the better version.

If cassano comes in, he can be a SS, a ST or a Trequarista. He will definitely perform better than giovinco in that role (Treq) and may also challenge diego's role. He will come cheap (20 mill) compared to player's prices these days. Cassano is also better than king alex and would make a great SS. even if employed as a striker, he is far more talented than anyone we have.

If we are buying cassano, then we should loan giovinco out to a premier league team where he can learn to make more of his abilities. Arsenal would be a great destination for a player like him if not liverpool. If they can transfor him to world class then we keep him.

as to undermining our investments in Amauri, its not wrong to have many options in many places. Take a look at barca.. they bench henry for iniesta or vice versa. Talents like Bojan come on the pitch rarely. They have squad depth as well as a high level of fitness. we have neither.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,498
Cruello is right, Gio is a creative player who can be a menace in build up, but his finishing is one of his weakest parts, its not poor perse, but so-so average.

Dont base this on league games, but constant viewing of Azzurrini games in last 2 years. It has stood out as something that isnt his thing.
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,615
there must have been some, like the fluffed PK vs. Bate, but clear 100% chances that should have been a goal? not really

I've also seen some great goals as well, especially the magical 1-2 he played with Ale in the Coppa Italia match vs. Catania
That was fantastic... del piero was brilliant that match
 

Juventine

Little Witch
Jul 11, 2008
328
He scored 4 goals in 30 Azzurrini U-21/Olympics matches, of which one is a freekick, one is a ehhh I don't know how to describe it, but clearly Dessena was there and might have touched the ball as well, anyway Dessena's existence influenced the goalkeeper's decision, one is a shot from the edge of the penalty area but rebounced the ground which again influenced the goalkeeper's decision and another one is the famous shot in the Honduras game (Olympics). So only two goals were actually good ones.

The thing is his biggest problem is not his shooting skill, IMHO, which is not that bad, rather he hardly got himself in a scoring position or the opportunities to score, even if in the matches he played as a SS. In one match, he usually got zero to two chances to score and 95% of these two opportunities were from outside of the penalty area but his long shot just lacks strength. He played as SS in the match against Lecce and the second match against Bate (0-0 in which he lost a penalty), I don't even recall him shooting in that two matches playing as SS (maybe some tempted shots blocked far too easily by defenders). Inside of the box is just not his area for some reasons (perhaps due to lack to strength also because of poor running of the ball).
Overall, for a midfielder he's weak in controlling the ball to guarantee the fluid of the match and for a striker his scoring rate is below average of a good second striker.

PS: He had a decent season in Empoli but by watching a few Empoli games, one noted that it was totally different playing attacking position for a team that defended with 10 men for about 80 minutes of a 90-minute match. Their opponent attacked and attacked (because most of the teams were stronger than Empoli) and left a lot of space up front and Giovnco was not marked as someone special so he had much more spece than in Juve.
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,615
He scored 4 goals in 30 Azzurrini U-21/Olympics matches, of which one is a freekick, one is a ehhh I don't know how to describe it, but clearly Dessena was there and might have touched the ball as well, anyway Dessena's existence influenced the goalkeeper's decision, one is a shot from the edge of the penalty area but rebounced the ground which again influenced the goalkeeper's decision and another one is the famous shot in the Honduras game (Olympics). So only two goals were actually good ones.

The thing is his biggest problem is not his shooting skill, IMHO, which is not that bad, rather he hardly got himself in a scoring position or the opportunities to score, even if in the matches he played as a SS. In one match, he usually got zero to two chances to score and 95% of these two opportunities were from outside of the penalty area but his long shot just lacks strength. He played as SS in the match against Lecce and the second match against Bate (0-0 in which he lost a penalty), I don't even recall him shooting in that two matches playing as SS (maybe some tempted shots blocked far too easily by defenders). Inside of the box is just not his area for some reasons (perhaps due to lack to strength also because of poor running of the ball).
Overall, for a midfielder he's weak in controlling the ball to guarantee the fluid of the match and for a striker his scoring rate is below average of a good second striker.

PS: He had a decent season in Empoli but by watching a few Empoli games, one noted that it was totally different playing attacking position for a team that defended with 10 men for about 80 minutes of a 90-minute match. Their opponent attacked and attacked (because most of the teams were stronger than Empoli) and left a lot of space up front and Giovnco was not marked as someone special so he had much more spece than in Juve.

Lets hope he explodes this season like marchisio
 

SABSAB

Snoop Stinks
Dec 10, 2008
10,832
amauri is not that good either. He is our worst forward. His dribbling sucks yet constantly attempts to dribble, thinking he is zlatan. his finishing is poor as well as his positioning and pace. Amauri strength is his header goals.
IQ is more physical with a slightly higher pace, the much better finisher and is equivalent in heading the ball.
Both players are almost copies, but IQ is the better version.

If cassano comes in, he can be a SS, a ST or a Trequarista. He will definitely perform better than giovinco in that role (Treq) and may also challenge diego's role. He will come cheap (20 mill) compared to player's prices these days. Cassano is also better than king alex and would make a great SS. even if employed as a striker, he is far more talented than anyone we have.

If we are buying cassano, then we should loan giovinco out to a premier league team where he can learn to make more of his abilities. Arsenal would be a great destination for a player like him if not liverpool. If they can transfor him to world class then we keep him.

as to undermining our investments in Amauri, its not wrong to have many options in many places. Take a look at barca.. they bench henry for iniesta or vice versa. Talents like Bojan come on the pitch rarely. They have squad depth as well as a high level of fitness. we have neither.
If. But it won't happen so stop talking about it.
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,615
You mean works hard like marchisio? He didn't explode onto the scene instantly by luck you know, it's been a progressing thing which he has earned himself
i know... lets hope he follows the same lead.
I used to the think marchisio was going to be the least successful of the 3 youngsters (gio and de ceglie) but he certainly proved me totally wrong
 

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