Sebastian Giovinco (31 Viewers)

[Stephan]

Luckily we have Molinaro and Grygera who outlast everyone.

 

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[Raz]

He is a 30 minute player,nothing more and I see Diego as a 60 minute player. 2+2=Bingo.

Diego can easily go for whole 90 min.

 

[KB824]

Luckily we have Molinaro and Grygera who outlast everyone.

Well, Molinaro, because everyone is afraid to go near him, lest they run the risk of getting in the way of one of his wayward SCUD missles that seemed to go everywhere except where it was intended to go

 

[Nicholas]

Diego can easily go for whole 90 min.

He has the tendancy to weave in and out of games like most flair players do. Gio can last 90 minutes be if he isen't doing anything productive then why should he play for 90 minutes?.

 

[Raz]

I'm all for Gio to play, to get his chance ant to prove that he is capable.

But i don't think that Gio is the same player as Diego is and i think he should play more in the sides then in the middle. Unless he muscles up more then he might be good in the middle too. Anyway, I'm all for giving Gio chances to shine and play.

 

[Suns]

Diego is perfect behind the strikers, Giovinco is perfect on the flanks. Its like Messi, would you put him in Iniestas spot?

 

[Bjerknes]

You know, I understand that everyone wants him to be a regular on the starting XI.


I get that. I would like that as well.

But maybe, just maybe, how he has been used, as far as being a super-sub, might be the best thing for him

That is what I am trying to say.


There is nothing wrong with him playing 30-40 minutes per match, or coming on when Juve need a boost to take advantage of the opposition's tired legs.

But if you want him to play 90 minutes per match, then unless he greatly increases his physical stamina and strength, he is eventually going to be a liability.

My issues with Ranieri's handling of him wasn't so much the fact that he didn't play him every week, it was just that when there were moments when this team really could ahve used his energy and creativity, the fucking knucklehead didn't play him.

But Sergio, where have we seen Giovinco get outmuscled constantly that it affects his game?

Against sides for the U-21's, I've never seen him really get destroyed and then become too physically weak to keep competing. Sure, I've seen him become exhausted and have to be subbed, but that happens to everyone.

From what I saw last season, I only saw Sebastian get outmuscled and look weak once in Serie A. But on the other hand, he played 30 good minutes against Chelsea, basically owning strong players such as Essien and Bosingwa, so he's shown he can play with the big boys in every sense of the wordage.

I just think we need to give him more chances, consistently, before we start saying we should only use him as a super sub. This may be extremely premature. After all, the boy is still young and I'm sure he has tons of stamina, so all he needs to do is hit the gym. If he does that, still gets outmuscled consistently by a variety of teams later in the game, then we can think about using him as a sub, IMO.

You could be right, but I hope not.

 

[KB824]

But Sergio, where have we seen Giovinco get outmuscled constantly that it affects his game?

Against sides for the U-21's, I've never seen him really get destroyed and then become too physically weak to keep competing. Sure, I've seen him become exhausted and have to be subbed, but that happens to everyone.

From what I saw last season, I only saw Sebastian get outmuscled and look weak once in Serie A. But on the other hand, he played 30 good minutes against Chelsea, basically owning strong players such as Essien and Bosingwa, so he's shown he can play with the big boys in every sense of the wordage.

I just think we need to give him more chances, consistently, before we start saying we should only use him as a super sub. This may be extremely premature. After all, the boy is still young and I'm sure he has tons of stamina, so all he needs to do is hit the gym. If he does that, still gets outmuscled consistently by a variety of teams later in the game, then we can think about using him as a sub, IMO.

You could be right, but I hope not.

But that is my point. These, and other moments like these, are when we see him at his best.

In controlled doses, so to speak

 

[KB824]

Andy, you mentioned that he could hit the gym.

Do you think that he has the type of frame that he could add 10-15 lbs of muscle, and still retain all of that quickness of which his game is predicated upon??

You're trading one aspect of his game for another.

If he can add that kind of muscle and still be explosive, hey, that's all the better for everyone involved.

But unfortunately, I can't base my opinion on "what ifs" in this circumstance

 

[Bjerknes]

But that is my point. These, and other moments like these, are when we see him at his best.

In controlled doses, so to speak

But we mostly only saw him in those controlled doses though. It's hard to conclude much from that.

 

[KB824]

But we mostly only saw him in those controlled doses though. It's hard to conclude much from that.

But don't you think there is a reason for that??

 

[Bjerknes]

Andy, you mentioned that he could hit the gym.

Do you think that he has the type of frame that he could add 10-15 lbs of muscle, and still retain all of that quickness of which his game is predicated upon??

You're trading one aspect of his game for another.

If he can add that kind of muscle and still be explosive, hey, that's all the better for everyone involved.

But unfortunately, I can't base my opinion on "what ifs" in this circumstance

Hmm, didn't Zola do something similar?

And even if he isn't able to add any muscle, we still shouldn't count him out yet.

 

[Bjerknes]

But don't you think there is a reason for that??

Yeah, because Ranieri is a retard.

 

[Stephan]

He could always use this also:

We can spend some of our transfer funds for it, it will be worth it surely.

 

[Cronios]

Mature players are stronger than U21, but they are not as fast and agile.
Every time Giovinco enters as a sub, one marker of the opposition gets booked, trying to catch/stop him.
He is very "explosive" at this age, we must harvest this advantage asap...

 

[Seven]

But Sergio, where have we seen Giovinco get outmuscled constantly that it affects his game?

Against sides for the U-21's, I've never seen him really get destroyed and then become too physically weak to keep competing. Sure, I've seen him become exhausted and have to be subbed, but that happens to everyone.

From what I saw last season, I only saw Sebastian get outmuscled and look weak once in Serie A. But on the other hand, he played 30 good minutes against Chelsea, basically owning strong players such as Essien and Bosingwa, so he's shown he can play with the big boys in every sense of the wordage.

I just think we need to give him more chances, consistently, before we start saying we should only use him as a super sub. This may be extremely premature. After all, the boy is still young and I'm sure he has tons of stamina, so all he needs to do is hit the gym. If he does that, still gets outmuscled consistently by a variety of teams later in the game, then we can think about using him as a sub, IMO.

You could be right, but I hope not.

There's your problem, Andy. Giovinco's already strong. He's quite broad and is very agile, but I don't think he can build that much more muscle mass. Look at his legs for instance. They're hardly skinny. At some point the gym will affect his game.

 

[KB824]

Mature players are stronger than U21, but they are not as fast and agile.
Every time Giovinco enters as a sub, one marker of the opposition gets booked, trying to catch/stop him.
He is very "explosive" at this age, we must harvest this advantage asap...

So the question that remains, given everything that is in front of us, is, how does he get used, so that his talent is maximized every time he is on the pitch

 

[Suns]

He should be a starter and play as any other player from start. Not play the last 20 minutes as if he was a 39 year old retard. He played a few games as a starter last season and did well. If he gets tired then we should sub him, that's all.

 

[Luca]

He should be a starter and play as any other player from start. Not play the last 20 minutes as if he was a 39 year old retard. He played a few games as a starter last season and did well. If he gets tired then we should sub him, that's all.

so then how do we accomodate him in a balenced formation and why does he deserve to start ahead of the others?

 

[Suns]

Because he is that good.