Sebastian Giovinco (78 Viewers)
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Ofcourse any player can adopt to new positions 35 year old or 16, I am not arguing about that vlat. All I am saying that I am not sure if Giovinco can play on the wing, breaking defense making crosses and all, I just don't believe he has that abilities. I am not an expert (like some of the members here pretend to be), but from what I saw about Giovinco, his specialty is making wonderful passes, distributing the ball to the best available places with almost perfect passes, he reminds me Zidane's (agains talking about positions and not skills 
) job than C.Ronaldo's.
) job than C.Ronaldo's.
Well I never saw Giovinco play so I'm not judging his abilities, but I learned to believe Dominic and he seems to think Giovinco has all the characteristics to play on the wing. And from what I read and saw on various highlights, he's more of an explosive attacker than he is a ZZ-type of playmaker. So I believe you're in the wrong here.
I want to see Giovinco in the first team working his magic as much as anybody, but I think the problem is that he is a very attacking player on our weakest flank defensively. That creates a problem, because although De Ceglie is great when going forward, he still lacks something defensive-wise. I won't say anything about Molinaro as there seems to be a general consensus that he is very weak. When Nedved is in the line-up CR can count on him to track back, help, make pressure etc something Giovinco would not do so much because although offensively he is the bomb, defensively he leaves alot to be desired.
The fact that Seba was brough in the last bit of the CL qualification game seems to support this assertion. Result was safe and we could afford to experiment. Winning 1-0, as has been the case in all the league matches is not a good time to expose the left flank, as a goal can come up from nowhere as we learnt on our first day of the season.
The way I see it, it's either wait for De Ceglie to grow defensively, or else play Seba behind the strikers. I don't think CR would go for the latter so the former seems to be a more realistic option.
The fact that Seba was brough in the last bit of the CL qualification game seems to support this assertion. Result was safe and we could afford to experiment. Winning 1-0, as has been the case in all the league matches is not a good time to expose the left flank, as a goal can come up from nowhere as we learnt on our first day of the season.
The way I see it, it's either wait for De Ceglie to grow defensively, or else play Seba behind the strikers. I don't think CR would go for the latter so the former seems to be a more realistic option.
We should remain with this system with nedved starting every match !! he is strong and powerful in the 90 Minutes !! we should give Giovinco a chance when Nedved needs to rest or in case of an injury
This is because Molinaro and De Ceglie !! are in the same side, left side, and they lack in experience. They need a player with experience such as Nedved in the same side !! Nedvedis the kind of winger that assists the defence alot and this is what we need. Giovinco can provide what Nedved is giving yet.
Especially that lately we are only winning with a 1 goal difference and substituting Nedved would be a risk.
1-0 Udinesi
1-0 Zenit
1-0 Cagliari
I think that Ranieri can't risk substituting Nedved with Giovinco and i agree with him
This is because Molinaro and De Ceglie !! are in the same side, left side, and they lack in experience. They need a player with experience such as Nedved in the same side !! Nedvedis the kind of winger that assists the defence alot and this is what we need. Giovinco can provide what Nedved is giving yet.
Especially that lately we are only winning with a 1 goal difference and substituting Nedved would be a risk.
1-0 Udinesi
1-0 Zenit
1-0 Cagliari
I think that Ranieri can't risk substituting Nedved with Giovinco and i agree with him
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Not necessary! any player can switch to any position if he has the abilities, skills, plus he could be used in a wrong place, and a good coach might find him the better place for him to perform better.
you fooker telling me that you are having all these discussion and your source is Dominic, you never seen the kid playing??
so you are just maherizing from here and there??
Well I never saw Giovinco play so I'm not judging his abilities, but I learned to believe Dominic and he seems to think Giovinco has all the characteristics to play on the wing. And from what I read and saw on various highlights, he's more of an explosive attacker than he is a ZZ-type of playmaker. So I believe you're in the wrong here.
so you are just maherizing from here and there??
Not necessary! any player can switch to any position if he has the abilities, skills, plus he could be used in a wrong place, and a good coach might find him the better place for him to perform better.
you fooker telling me that you are having all these discussion and your source is Dominic, you never seen the kid playing??
so you are just maherizing from here and there??
you fooker telling me that you are having all these discussion and your source is Dominic, you never seen the kid playing??
so you are just maherizing from here and there??
Besides, my point never required me knowing how Giovinco plays. I only said, if he can't adapt to a new, similar, position he's not much of a player. And I stand by that still.
Ranieri urges Seba patience Tuesday 23 September, 2008
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Juventus boss Claudio Ranieri has discussed the possibility of Sebastian Giovinco stepping in for the injured David Trezeguet.
Trez underwent surgery on both knees earlier today and isn't expected to return to the pitch before the end of January 2009.
“They tell me that his operation went well and that makes me happy,” Ranieri said.
“I knew that he had a problem with his other knee as well and it's not for me to ask about the nature of the procedure.”
The loss of Trezeguet could hand Azzurrini starlet Sebastian Giovinco a chance in the first team.
“His time will come slowly but surely - we shouldn't wait for him like a Messiah,” Ranieri asserted.
“We have to see him as a lad who needs to be slowly integrated and we have to take a responsible approach.
“I have never said that he poses a tactical problem. He is just developing as a player - he always played in the centre and then he was on the left at Empoli.
“I brought him back to be a back-up to Pavel Nedved but that doesn't mean that he can't be used in attack.
“I have a lot of faith in him. He works hard and he has great quality but let's give him some time.”
Juventus currently lead Serie A along with Inter and their next test is a home game against Catania.
“It's too early to talk about a title race with Inter,” Ranieri stressed. “It's an open championship and Milan, Roma and Fiorentina are still in it, as well as Lazio, who have started well, Napoli and Sampdoria.
“Now I am expecting to face a Catania side looking to build on their performance at San Siro.
“They troubled us twice last term when we won 1-0 and when we needed a last-gasp Alessandro Del Piero penalty to get a draw.”
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Juventus boss Claudio Ranieri has discussed the possibility of Sebastian Giovinco stepping in for the injured David Trezeguet.
Trez underwent surgery on both knees earlier today and isn't expected to return to the pitch before the end of January 2009.
“They tell me that his operation went well and that makes me happy,” Ranieri said.
“I knew that he had a problem with his other knee as well and it's not for me to ask about the nature of the procedure.”
The loss of Trezeguet could hand Azzurrini starlet Sebastian Giovinco a chance in the first team.
“His time will come slowly but surely - we shouldn't wait for him like a Messiah,” Ranieri asserted.
“We have to see him as a lad who needs to be slowly integrated and we have to take a responsible approach.
“I have never said that he poses a tactical problem. He is just developing as a player - he always played in the centre and then he was on the left at Empoli.
“I brought him back to be a back-up to Pavel Nedved but that doesn't mean that he can't be used in attack.
“I have a lot of faith in him. He works hard and he has great quality but let's give him some time.”
Juventus currently lead Serie A along with Inter and their next test is a home game against Catania.
“It's too early to talk about a title race with Inter,” Ranieri stressed. “It's an open championship and Milan, Roma and Fiorentina are still in it, as well as Lazio, who have started well, Napoli and Sampdoria.
“Now I am expecting to face a Catania side looking to build on their performance at San Siro.
“They troubled us twice last term when we won 1-0 and when we needed a last-gasp Alessandro Del Piero penalty to get a draw.”
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I have seen like 10 matches of him. Not highlights or youtubes, sure many of members here never seen him play a full game, and they are all rating him high and are excited. From what I have seen, he loses the ball quickly when a defender approaches him, or he fells down. Nedved these days play versaitle, not as a pure winger, Nedved comes to middle, and sometimes goes forward from the left, until the corner line and makes a cross from there. Giovinco is not that, he needs a free role, a space to run to organize attacks. yes he did play on the left with Empoli, but not as a winger who breaks the defense and make a cross, but more what Nedved does today when he takes the ball from left and goes to center (minus the crossing). But Giovinco can't keep the ball long like Nedved, he loses it faster, and if Molinaro the clown is behind him, we are totally screwed..
Ranieri is not benching him for no reason, he is trying to make a place for him. he just can't take Nedved off and put him right there, but he will try that also against small teams, and we will see if it will work, hopefully works, because we need a Nedved replacement desperately, but I am trying so hard to convince myself that Giovinco can do what nedved does offensively and defensively, but I can't "D
Ranieri is not benching him for no reason, he is trying to make a place for him. he just can't take Nedved off and put him right there, but he will try that also against small teams, and we will see if it will work, hopefully works, because we need a Nedved replacement desperately, but I am trying so hard to convince myself that Giovinco can do what nedved does offensively and defensively, but I can't "D
All that comes with matches and experience. Like I said, he hardly has one proper season behind him, it's different in Serie A than it was in Primavera. People think too much of his height and small disposition, numerous great players were both short and skinny, looked like the wind could blow them away. With time he'll learn and become more tenacious.
A Nedved replacement doesn't have to be a Nedved clone.
A Nedved replacement doesn't have to be a Nedved clone.
I just posted the same article in the Juventus v Catania match thread and added the bit below after it
Although i would love to see Giovinco start against Catania or at least feature for 30 minutes or so. Ranieri obvioulsy knows the talent Seba possess its not just Juve fans or a select group of Juventz forum members who are privledge to this information or have the keen awareness and football intelligence to spot such things.
I believe Ranieri would love to start Seba put we will see a slow intoducting to Seba at Juve similar to Balotelli at inter last season. While most fans are more concerned with next match Ranieri has the best interest of the brightest young talent Juve have produced in recent time and must judge what his best for him.
So while he has not featured much yet by the end of this seasons campaign i would say Seba will have started about 10 games and featured as a sub in another 10 to 15 at least.
Which hopefully will by the first chapter in a long and successfull trophy winning career at Juve.
Claudio Ranieri is nowhere near as stupid as some people on here like to portray him as.
Although i would love to see Giovinco start against Catania or at least feature for 30 minutes or so. Ranieri obvioulsy knows the talent Seba possess its not just Juve fans or a select group of Juventz forum members who are privledge to this information or have the keen awareness and football intelligence to spot such things.
I believe Ranieri would love to start Seba put we will see a slow intoducting to Seba at Juve similar to Balotelli at inter last season. While most fans are more concerned with next match Ranieri has the best interest of the brightest young talent Juve have produced in recent time and must judge what his best for him.
So while he has not featured much yet by the end of this seasons campaign i would say Seba will have started about 10 games and featured as a sub in another 10 to 15 at least.
Which hopefully will by the first chapter in a long and successfull trophy winning career at Juve.
Claudio Ranieri is nowhere near as stupid as some people on here like to portray him as.
