Sebastian Giovinco (83 Viewers)
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we played only 3 games for god sake..........
playing as a winger is not any similar of playing on the center midfield. as a winger you should run fast, dribble and you should be a good crosser, or at least you should be a good dribbler and dribble to center and have powerful shots. I don't think Giovinco has any of these, he is a great passer, a great reader of a game, a good playmaker, that's why I would give him the "Zidane" role, and not Zamrotta, Camoranesi or Nedved's role.
Explosiveness and quick dribbling are among Giovinco's best traits actually.
Besides Camo and Giovinco are more alike than Zambrotta and Camoranesi.
For the azzurrini, where he played his best games, Giovinco always plays from the left wing cutting inside(in a somewhat free role) in a three man attack.
Besides Camo and Giovinco are more alike than Zambrotta and Camoranesi.
For the azzurrini, where he played his best games, Giovinco always plays from the left wing cutting inside(in a somewhat free role) in a three man attack.
Zizou while playing for Real played on the left wing sometimes, but he had the freedom to cut inside and do what he wanted. He was a natural playmaker as well. Nedved came to Juventus as a natural all-out winger but used to play in the center for a number of seasons for us. Point is, as a young player, Giovinco should really be able to adapt.
now now you are comparing Giovinco with Nedved and Zidane which is crazy. I was talking about roles/positions when I mentioned players. When Zidane dribbles sometimes 5 players can't stop him, Zidane and Nedved are strong physically, Giovinco is small and skinny he can hardly stand on his feet. He did succeed with Empoli, because when Empoli attacked, the opponent wasn't defending against them with their whole team, he had space to run, he can't find that space much on the wings with Juve, where usually the opponents defend whit their whole team (that's my reply to Dom). All I am saying Giovinco needs space to play his smart football, and he finds that easier on the center than the wings.
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wrong!
Molinaro * Molinaro = Plus infinity. That's because Molinaro equals negative infinity
The names you are mentioning are much stronger physically than Giovinco and are much better dribblers than him. What Giovinco needs is exactly what Cruello said about Arshavin, he needs the free role and a strong midfield to cover his back. Nedved is a fighter, when he loses the ball, he stands up and goes back to get the ball. Giovinco is not that, if he goes down, that will leave space on the left, and they will make counter attacks from there. While if he plays in front of a Sissoko or/and a Poulsen, they can cover his space!
I'm sure they do.
When they refer to Juve fans, which English speaking Juve fans do you think they are talking about?
Anyway, this Giovinco dispute has gone long enough. Goal.com as usual, has nothing else to write about. I think this long wait is probably for the better of Giovinco in the long run.
He'll know that one has to earn his place in Juve through hard work and determination. That's exactly what he will do. It's a matter of respect more than anything, we all love Seba and know he's good enough, but he hasn't proven anything to Juve just yet.
That's what we all seem to forget. He has done very well with Empoli and the U21's and we have been speaking about him over a year, but what has he proven to Ranieri or Juve. He is a great young prospect, possibly the brightest young talent in Italy, but he, like the rest, has to earn his place slowly and with the utmost patience.
When they refer to Juve fans, which English speaking Juve fans do you think they are talking about?
Anyway, this Giovinco dispute has gone long enough. Goal.com as usual, has nothing else to write about. I think this long wait is probably for the better of Giovinco in the long run.
He'll know that one has to earn his place in Juve through hard work and determination. That's exactly what he will do. It's a matter of respect more than anything, we all love Seba and know he's good enough, but he hasn't proven anything to Juve just yet.
That's what we all seem to forget. He has done very well with Empoli and the U21's and we have been speaking about him over a year, but what has he proven to Ranieri or Juve. He is a great young prospect, possibly the brightest young talent in Italy, but he, like the rest, has to earn his place slowly and with the utmost patience.
now now you are comparing Giovinco with Nedved and Zidane which is crazy. I was talking about roles/positions when I mentioned players. When Zidane dribbles sometimes 5 players can't stop him, Zidane and Nedved are strong physically, Giovinco is small and skinny he can hardly stand on his feet. He did succeed with Empoli, because when Empoli attacked, the opponent wasn't defending against them with their whole team, he had space to run, he can't find that space much on the wings with Juve, where usually the opponents defend whit their whole team (that's my reply to Dom). All I am saying Giovinco needs space to play his smart football, and he finds that easier on the center than the wings.
wrong!
Molinaro * Molinaro = Plus infinity. That's because Molinaro equals negative infinity
wrong!
Molinaro * Molinaro = Plus infinity. That's because Molinaro equals negative infinity
Ofcourse any player can adopt to new positions 35 year old or 16, I am not arguing about that vlat. All I am saying that I am not sure if Giovinco can play on the wing, breaking defense making crosses and all, I just don't believe he has that abilities. I am not an expert (like some of the members here pretend to be), but from what I saw about Giovinco, his specialty is making wonderful passes, distributing the ball to the best available places with almost perfect passes, he reminds me Zidane's (agains talking about positions and not skills ) job than C.Ronaldo's.
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You dont have to be a fortune teller to understand what our manager think, its logic, if we make such an investment,
to buy some young and expensive players to replace Giovinco, its only logical that our managers consider we need to strengthen our team on this department and do not calculate Giovinco as good enough.
Its irrelevant what will happen on the future, the point is that their intention will be revealed then...
I was referring to transfers alone and if we decide to make such an investment, then this fact will force CR hand, to give them a try out and favor them, against cheaper players, if they perform at least as good as they do.
From my exp within smaller clubs, i have seen that there a whole bunch of small details that impose a coach to make a certain choice.
Many shady factors most of the fans never herd of, or cant imagine.
We are a big team but big money and interests can affect us, managers and sponsors often have a say, where they shouldnt...
A 20-30 mil transfer will have a lot of allies within our team to become reality, the ones able to realize such a transfer sure have a say to our team,indirectly at least, be sure about that. Cassano esp have a lot of fans within our helm...
But the point is, since our team has many weaknesses as it is, if we choose to invest there, then it means, that is this the place where we consider we need more and better solution, almost ignoring the fact that Giovinco exist and have a future in our team...
to buy some young and expensive players to replace Giovinco, its only logical that our managers consider we need to strengthen our team on this department and do not calculate Giovinco as good enough.
Its irrelevant what will happen on the future, the point is that their intention will be revealed then...
I was referring to transfers alone and if we decide to make such an investment, then this fact will force CR hand, to give them a try out and favor them, against cheaper players, if they perform at least as good as they do.
From my exp within smaller clubs, i have seen that there a whole bunch of small details that impose a coach to make a certain choice.
Many shady factors most of the fans never herd of, or cant imagine.
We are a big team but big money and interests can affect us, managers and sponsors often have a say, where they shouldnt...
A 20-30 mil transfer will have a lot of allies within our team to become reality, the ones able to realize such a transfer sure have a say to our team,indirectly at least, be sure about that. Cassano esp have a lot of fans within our helm...
But the point is, since our team has many weaknesses as it is, if we choose to invest there, then it means, that is this the place where we consider we need more and better solution, almost ignoring the fact that Giovinco exist and have a future in our team...