Saddam Hussein Sentenced to Death (8 Viewers)

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Maresca

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Aug 23, 2004
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ReBeL said:
If you go back to my first post in this thread, I said that this man had made mistakes, and the Kurds attack was one of these mistakes...

Kuwait war was a trap for him, and he fell in it, unfortunately...

The Shiites betrayed him during the Gulf war, and he had to stop their rebellion...

He had no another choice..
you call this a mistake?? If you really know what a person saddam is, then you will know that this never been a mistake for him..

ReBeL said:
The Shiites betrayed him during the Gulf war, and he had to stop their rebellion...

He had no another choice..
He had no choice but to kill his own people without any reason??
 

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ReBeL

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Jan 14, 2005
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Maresca said:
He had no choice but to kill his own people without any reason??
There was a reason, Maresca...

How could you react when some people in your country make a revolution while your army is fighting abroad??
 

Maresca

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Aug 23, 2004
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ReBeL said:
Well, the Kurds thing is similar to what happened in France last year IMO...

Some innocent victims from the minority are always prone to be the target of the authorities, and that's not fair, I agree, but what is the alternative??
Rebel, I am very dissapointed from you..
about which alternatives are you talking about? how are you trying to justify saddams behaiveur??
do you know what kurds wanted? I can tell you one thing, you can compare the situation of Kurds with the situation of palestiniens. Palestinian people want to have their right to leave in peace in their own land, just like kurds do.. if you see that what saddam did were mistakes, then you should say, that Israelian army is just doing some mistakes in palestina
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
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ReBeL said:
Well, the Kurds thing is similar to what happened in France last year IMO...

Some innocent victims from the minority are always prone to be the target of the authorities, and that's not fair, I agree, but what is the alternative??
I didn't see the French government using chemical weapons to kill this minority though. I fail to see how you compared them.

The minority in France asked for better living standards where at the same time they did not work and lived on social welfare

The Kurds in Irak wanted independance because they were being treated as rebels and they were subject to all kinds of humiliation and discrimination.

A friend of mine was arrested five times. He worked as an electrician and the company where he worked had some contracts with hotels. Each time he went to fix something in a hotel he was arrested because they thought he was going to blow p the hotel. An Iraqi going to fix something in a hotel would not have been treated the same way.

Minorities are not always the target of authoritites, Armenians in Lebanon are not. Samis in Sweden are not. Foreigners in Holland are not etc. It is only where there is a tyrant as an authority these things happen.
 

ReBeL

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Jan 14, 2005
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ßömßärdîër said:
That is what they are doing, he was tried in an Iraqi court.
:rofl:

An Iraqi court??:p

Americans changed the judge three times, my dear, until they found the toy who can give them what Gigi Bush wants...
 

Maresca

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Aug 23, 2004
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ReBeL said:
There was a reason, Maresca...

How could you react when some people in your country make a revolution while your army is fighting abroad??
what about thinking about why the people are making a revolution? Why should I or any other iraqi fight for an idiot who just decided to attack kuwait??
 

ReBeL

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Jan 14, 2005
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Maresca said:
Rebel, I am very dissapointed from you..
about which alternatives are you talking about? how are you trying to justify saddams behaiveur??
do you know what kurds wanted? I can tell you one thing, you can compare the situation of Kurds with the situation of palestiniens. Palestinian people want to have their right to leave in peace in their own land, just like kurds do.. if you see that what saddam did were mistakes, then you should say, that Israelian army is just doing some mistakes in palestina
Maresca, I'm so keen to keep our nice relationship aside, so keep our political differences out of it, please....

Do you think that Iraq is occupying Kurdistan?? If so, how do you justify having a Kurdi president for the whole Iraqi republic now??
 

Maresca

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Aug 23, 2004
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ReBeL said:
:rofl:

An Iraqi court??:p

Americans changed the judge three times, my dear, until they found the toy who can give them what Gigi Bush wants...
it is a fact, that this judge made the same decision, which 98% iraqis would have done.. belive me most of iraqis even said, why is there a judge? for a person like saddam, you don´t even need judge, just kill him..
 

Maresca

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Aug 23, 2004
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ReBeL said:
Maresca, I'm so keen to keep our nice relationship aside, so keep our political differences out of it, please....

Do you think that Iraq is occupying Kurdistan?? If so, how do you justify having a Kurdi president for the whole Iraqi republic now??
same here, this will not effect our relationship..

no, I don´t think that Iraq is occupying kurdistan, but we did not have oour rights at the past. Now it is a new time, if you like or not, we see a kurdish president thanks to the american occupying of Irak..
 

ReBeL

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Jan 14, 2005
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Jeeks said:
I didn't see the French government using chemical weapons to kill this minority though. I fail to see how you compared them.

The minority in France asked for better living standards where at the same time they did not work and lived on social welfare

The Kurds in Irak wanted independance because they were being treated as rebels and they were subject to all kinds of humiliation and discrimination.

A friend of mine was arrested five times. He worked as an electrician and the company where he worked had some contracts with hotels. Each time he went to fix something in a hotel he was arrested because they thought he was going to blow p the hotel. An Iraqi going to fix something in a hotel would not have been treated the same way.

Minorities are not always the target of authoritites, Armenians in Lebanon are not. Samis in Sweden are not. Foreigners in Holland are not etc. It is only where there is a tyrant as an authority these things happen.
I said before that what Saddam did there is WRONG, and if I were him, I would give them the independence since a long time, and as a result, we would have to see what the Turkish reaction will be...
 

ReBeL

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Jan 14, 2005
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Maresca said:
what about thinking about why the people are making a revolution? Why should I or any other iraqi fight for an idiot who just decided to attack kuwait??
That's a good point, but I think it was not an innocent revolution that came from the people themselves...

It was supported by neighbour countries that wanted the worst to the whole Iraqi people...
 

ReBeL

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Jan 14, 2005
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ßömßärdîër said:
Yea, I think some of the judges quit anyway because of death threats and what not.
Exactly...

The Americans threatened them that they had to cooperate with the occupiers to humilate Saddam in front of all the Iraqis, and all of us know why the GREAT Kurdi judge quitted that job when he knew that it was not an Iraqi independent court...
 

Azzurri7

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#76
ReBeL said:
The Shiites betrayed him during the Gulf war, and he had to stop their rebellion...

He had no another choice..
No wonder why all Palestinians are with Saddam...Simply because he's Sunni.

Is this the way to stop Sheea's rebellion??? and also to say Saddam had his mistakes is a crime IMO...word mistakes is pretty lame and small for someone like Saddam.
 

ReBeL

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Jan 14, 2005
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#77
Maresca said:
same here, this will not effect our relationship..

no, I don´t think that Iraq is occupying kurdistan, but we did not have oour rights at the past. Now it is a new time, if you like or not, we see a kurdish president thanks to the american occupying of Irak..
Well, if Kurds think that Americans will stay for ever in the region, I think they're so wrong...

If your rights are taken back to you by an invading alien power, don't you think that this alien power wants something as a compensation??
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
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#78
ReBeL, one question only. I gather you stand with Saddam just because he stood against the USA. If we take away this last war, what is your opinion on him?
 

Zé Tahir

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Dec 10, 2004
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Zé Tahir said:
Everyone seems to forget that pilots of the RAF sprayed the Kurds first, but everyone knows big bad Saddam was evil.
Again.

The first chemical attack against the Kurdish population was conducted by the British.
 
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