Ruud van Nistelrooy is a son of a biatch (3 Viewers)

[Eddy]

++ [ originally posted by madlawyer1 ] ++

if it were in another forum that is..

 

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[madlawyer1]

++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++
A very powerful medium indeed. Not in favour of the receiving party, however. Merely of the sending one.

No doubt, TV reporting can be biased. However, a live broadcast of a football match is surely neutral, right?

 

[swag]

++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++


Try to pull off an article like this about Del Piero and you'll see the propagandised masses stampede over the offending poster so swiftly and deadly it makes Hitler's forces look like amateurs.

On this forum, I think Hitler ranks somewhere below the DP vs. Ibra argument in terms of general contempt, hostility, and the suspension of civil rights between people. So you do make a good argument, Erik.

 

[Slagathor]

++ [ originally posted by madlawyer1 ] ++
No doubt, TV reporting can be biased. However, a live broadcast of a football match is surely neutral, right?

You should go to a match in the Amsterdam ArenA some time and purchase one of those VIP tickets that allow you to take a look in the room where they direct the broadcast; which players to follow, which camera to come in, which replay to run from which angle.

Nothing on television is neutral.

But I'm serious; a visit like that is dead-interesting!

 

[Slagathor]

++ [ originally posted by swag ] ++
On this forum, I think Hitler ranks somewhere below the DP vs. Ibra argument in terms of general contempt, hostility, and the suspension of civil rights between people. So you do make a good argument, Erik.

Excellent reply

 

[Azzurri7]

++ [ originally posted by edpiero ] ++


:LOL: me, azzurri and hambon as top generals

 

[madlawyer1]

++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++


You should go to a match in the Amsterdam ArenA some time and purchase one of those VIP tickets that allow you to take a look in the room where they direct the broadcast; which players to follow, which camera to come in, which replay to run from which angle.

Nothing on television is neutral.

But I'm serious; a visit like that is dead-interesting!

Do you mean there is a Premiership-wide conspiracy to portray RvN as a nasty piece of work? We must find the Sith Lord responsible for this.

The images I mostly refer to are those shown by Old Trafford's own camera directors who, if anything, would surely prefer to immediately delete any images showing van Nastilrooy displaying his true colours, rather than replay them from top-down and reverse angle views.

 

[Slagathor]

++ [ originally posted by madlawyer1 ] ++
Do you mean there is a Premiership-wide conspiracy to portray RvN as a nasty piece of work? We must find the Sith Lord responsible for this.

The images I mostly refer to are those shown by Old Trafford's own camera directors who, if anything, would surely prefer to immediately delete any images showing van Nastilrooy displaying his true colours, rather than replay them from top-down and reverse angle views.

I said nothing was neutral; don't twist my words. As for Vieira's remarks: books need to sell. Boring books do not.

 

[madlawyer1]

++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++
I said nothing was neutral; don't twist my words. As for Vieira's remarks: books need to sell. Boring books do not.

You said nothing was neutral, and used the Amsterdam ArenA as an example. I took that to mean that even at football stadia, the camera room is filled with partisan persons, interested in showing only the best of the home team.

Hence I pointed out that the place I've most often seen RvN display his nasty side is at ?Old Trafford where, surely, the camera room is packed with people only interested in showing his good side.

As for Vieira needing his book to sell, who doesn't? Vieira only said what he feels about RvN in his book, just the same way Keane revealed he deliberately kicked Alfe Haaland retaliation for calling him a faker when he was, in fact, seriously injured.

 

[Slagathor]

++ [ originally posted by madlawyer1 ] ++
You said nothing was neutral, and used the Amsterdam ArenA as an example. I took that to mean that even at football stadia, the camera room is filled with partisan persons, interested in showing only the best of the home team.

Hence I pointed out that the place I've most often seen RvN display his nasty side is at ?Old Trafford where, surely, the camera room is packed with people only interested in showing his good side.

Not necessarily; in most cases the people are directly or indirectly employed by the television stations who purchased the rights of the match.

As for Vieira needing his book to sell, who doesn't? Vieira only said what he feels about RvN in his book, just the same way Keane revealed he deliberately kicked Alfe Haaland retaliation for calling him a faker when he was, in fact, seriously injured.

There's a difference between saying what one feels, and saying what one feels plus adding a little something so that it sounds nice and sells.

 

[/usr/bin]

I think the most important question is this:

"Vieira wrote a book?"

 

[Slagathor]

++ [ originally posted by Nawaf ] ++
I think the most important question is this:

"Vieira wrote a book?"

:dielaugh:

God, I love you

 

[/usr/bin]

Luv you too, hun.. :flirt:

 

[Arttk]

++ [ originally posted by madlawyer1 ] ++


Well, excuuuse me.

Did I have to meet George W. Bush personally before realising from "selected television images" that he's an absolute idiot? That he has absolutely no brains and is a war-mongering dunce who'll happily throw the whole world into war if it keeps his defence contractor buddies happy? No, I did not. All I had to do was see his actions on television (a rather powerful medium).

I'll bet Ruud is a great guy off the pitch, but while he's on it, he's an utter cunt.

thats not fair, you played the bush card.

 

[madlawyer1]

++ [ originally posted by Arttk ] ++


thats not fair, you played the bush card.

What better example is there of not needing to meet someone face-to-face before deciding what kind of person they are?

 

[Enron]

i like him better than Rooney. but not much. Fook Rooney!

 

[madlawyer1]

++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++


Not necessarily; in most cases the people are directly or indirectly employed by the television stations who purchased the rights of the match.

Now you're suggesting that perhaps the television stations are the ones who deliberately set out to portray RvN as a nasty piece of work?

I know that the TV people love nothing more than a bit of scandal, but if you don't give them anything, they wont have anything to show.

How many people have called Thierry Henry a cheat, or faker, or nasty player?


That many, huh?

 

[Slagathor]

++ [ originally posted by madlawyer1 ] ++
Now you're suggesting that perhaps the television stations are the ones who deliberately set out to portray RvN as a nasty piece of work?

I know that the TV people love nothing more than a bit of scandal, but if you don't give them anything, they wont have anything to show.

How many people have called Thierry Henry a cheat, or faker, or nasty player?


That many, huh?

I am not implying anything of the sort; I'm merely pointing out there are many possibilities for something that you see on your television set to be altered before it reaches you.

My point is that it's unfair and to my opinion even impossible to form a set opinion about someone you have only seen through the media.

 

[madlawyer1]

++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++
I am not implying anything of the sort; I'm merely pointing out there are many possibilities for something that you see on your television set to be altered before it reaches you.

My point is that it's unfair and to my opinion even impossible to form a set opinion about someone you have only seen through the media.

So, you mean that "live" broadcasts aren't really live? We are in the Soviet Union of Frederick Forsyth then aren't we? I have formed opinions about persons I've only seen on Tv before, without having to meet them, and been proved right.

Isn't that afterall the main function of the media? To enable people access to those in authority/power they would otherwise not have? To penetrate the bubble of secrecy in which these persons would readily shroud themselves, and lift the curtain on any nefarious activities?

Did I have to meet Adolf Hitler personally before realising through the media that he was a rank bastard and mass murderer?

Did I have to meet Sani Abacha personally before realising through the media that he was a psychotic, brutal dictator?

Did you meet Hitler?

 

[/usr/bin]

I'm not sure, but aren't all "live" broadcasts delayed for a few seconds (around 7 if I'm not mistaken) so people can filter out any thing offensive or nudity, etc, before it broadcasts? Or is it only for the NFL?