Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (83 Viewers)

Seven

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
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Jun 25, 2003
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DAiDEViL said:
What is bro talking about. He just wants the war to end. He's very soft spoken, only cares about his people.
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That is honestly the level we're at. They don't even understand that you don't need to raise your voice to be mean. This is like kindergarten bullies faced with a mob leader. They feel tough for making fun of Wendy for wetting her panties, meanwhile their conversation partner is ordering people's genitals to be cut off.

I will say this though, the thing you have to admire about Putin is that he is unapologetically only about power. If it makes him look tough and powerful to fuck Trump in the ass on live global television and he gets the Donbas by doing so, that guy pops two blue pills and goes to work.

Is that what you want @MAXCAP? Putin to fuck your president in the ass on live tv?
 

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Alen

Alen

It's time to stay!!
#9,184
Apr 2, 2007
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AFL_ITALIA said:
Puppet state Moldova.
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I thought so too, but I was under a wrong impression that the Russians are controlling everything from Donbas to Moldova. The other day I saw "Trump's map" and I saw that they have 0% in Odessa, which means that Russia doesn't have, and won't have, a land corridor to Moldova.
I said something completely different some days ago, but now I think that Moldova's safe and out of reach for Putin. If the Russians had southern Ukraine, Moldova would have been toast. But they don't have it and won't have it, so their soldiers there are a stranded pawn.

Even in the Caucasus, things have changed these last days, and it looks like Russia lost its leverage as security guarantor after the Trump-brokered deal between Armenia and Azerbaijan, which is imo a big strategic defeat for Putin.

The more I think about it, the more I am convinced that (in case a deal is found for Ukraine) Russia will be forced to stay quiet for some time and there won't be any large tank invasions. Hybrid warfare at most.
If I'm wrong and they do attack someone, I'd bet on Georgia this time.
 
Kopanja

Kopanja

Senior Member
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Jul 30, 2015
5,625
#9,185
They won't get Moldova, because we won't let them. Ukraine should be, in naval terms a brander for the Russian shitempire. People around suffered too much for too long because of the maniacs in Moscow and Leningrad. It's long overdue for someone to put an end to it, even if the price is enormous.
EDIT: Don't want to make it look like maniacs in Moscow and Leningrad are the only ones to blame. Russian people always gleefully participate in all the atrocities this cancer of humanity was up to. Was it this war, Ichkeria, Georgia, Syria, dividing Europe with Nazis(another anniversary today, yay), Holodomor, Tsitsekun, Katyn, and hundreds of other mass atrocities, they were never in short supply of helpers because of those ordinary russians with those mysterious russians souls nurtured by tolstoevskiy.
 
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AFL_ITALIA

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
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Jun 17, 2011
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Alen said:
I thought so too, but I was under a wrong impression that the Russians are controlling everything from Donbas to Moldova. The other day I saw "Trump's map" and I saw that they have 0% in Odessa, which means that Russia doesn't have, and won't have, a land corridor to Moldova.
I said something completely different some days ago, but now I think that Moldova's safe and out of reach for Putin. If the Russians had southern Ukraine, Moldova would have been toast. But they don't have it and won't have it, so their soldiers there are a stranded pawn.

Even in the Caucasus, things have changed these last days, and it looks like Russia lost its leverage as security guarantor after the Trump-brokered deal between Armenia and Azerbaijan, which is imo a big strategic defeat for Putin.

The more I think about it, the more I am convinced that (in case a deal is found for Ukraine) Russia will be forced to stay quiet for some time and there won't be any large tank invasions. Hybrid warfare at most.
If I'm wrong and they do attack someone, I'd bet on Georgia this time.
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I should've wrote that out better, but I didn't mean they would seek to annex Moldova directly. I think instead the will seek to make them into a puppet state, in the same sort of way that Belarus is to them now. Should they eventually succeed in getting a sympathetic government placed in Romania afterwards, this would potentially allow them to establish some sort of exclave there. Not sure how realistic that actually is considering I know nothing. I hope you're right and they're left struggling.

For sure though, they will have to keep to themselves militarily for a number of years now if they like existing, maybe even a decade. You can't lose 1 million men and go right back at it, they're going to have to wait until their male children get old enough to sacrifice.

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Kopanja

Kopanja

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Jul 30, 2015
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Nah, Estonia is just bluster at this point. It's just huffing and puffing. Estonia is a badass, though, love them.
Since today is Independence Day will be rocking this tune from 100 years ago.
 
Kopanja

Kopanja

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Jul 30, 2015
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There is no point interviewing those fuckers, they will gleefully lie to you. There is no point in trying to catch them on that lie, because they know that their lie is obvious and doesn't make sense. The whole point is humiliation. Russian culture is a prison culture, a culture built on humiliation. The only cure for this is a good weapon and a steady hand.
 
s4tch

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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Kopanja said:
There is no point interviewing those fuckers, they will gleefully lie to you. There is no point in trying to catch them on that lie, because they know that their lie is obvious and doesn't make sense...
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if it makes some muricans realize how disgusting they are and why the cold war and the ussr never ended for them, it was well worth it
 
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