Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (76 Viewers)

[Bjerknes]

All wrong

Putin negotiated not once but twice. He not only negotiated but signed agreements. They are called Minsk 1 and 2. Since their signing not a single obligation was fulfilled by Ukraine. Putin has never said he wants to restore Soviet Union. Even you shouldn't be that brainwashed since it is obvious that many ex USSR territories and countries are now in Nato and EU. Even in this conflict, it is completely false that he doesn't want to negotiate, they held 2 negotiations so far, with another one incoming.

His demands were never Ukraine giving up sovereignty, he specifically mentioned his 4 demands, none of which is occupation. It was always Nato fault, as Noam Chomsky said. Every living thing with a functional brain cell understood that putting Ukraine in Nato would mean deployment of offensive and nuclear weapons against Russia right on its border. They knowingly pursued this, moreover they supplied Ukraine with enormous amounts of offensive weapons since 2014 puppet governments. They contracted 11 biolabs sponsored by American DoD. They supported genocide of 14000 russians.
So what did you think the Russians would do? Wait and die?

So Putin's response is attacking Ukraine, bombing huge apartment complexes, attacking nuclear power plants (which could kill millions of Russians!), crashing his own economy (which will lead to tens of millions of suffering Russians!), and creating a legion of hundreds of millions of people around the world that hate his guts? He must be so worried about the Minsk agreement that he forgot to think about all of those severe ramifications, along with creating a supply chain that actually would propel his side to victory.

If Noam Chomsky thinks all of THAT is OK, then he's a retard as well. But he's always been a bit of a low-IQ moron when it comes to economics.

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When you think about it, Putin is inflicting more damage to Russia than NATO could dream of.

 

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[duranfj]

there's a nazi group in my hometown too, at least there used to be one a few years ago. they have/had ~20 members tops. they go to biker meet ups, concerts and dream of a gypsy genocide. i wish putin also saved us from them and would bomb the shit out of our schools, hospitals and airports along the way.

boy, you are really one special kind here. please continue. @Tomice

Wouldn't surprise if the main sponsor of that "Nazi" group was Putin. Commies love to create/chose/control their opposition, they invest a lot on that

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So, what you saying is that Milosevic did the same as Ukraine regime and Nazis were doing to russians since the instalation of american puppet governments since 2014?

Exactly, that's why Russia has every right to conduct the special operation and eliminate the nazis and the government that supported them, including punishing the West for arming them.

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And what if I am located in America?

Putin, what are you doing in tuz? Lol classic Vladimir

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Left sponsor by China
Right sponsor by Russia

Guess what those country have in common?

 

[Ronn]

This is a great argument. Didnt think about it before.
Anyways, i heard that in Saudi during friday prayers they cutt off people’s hand.

Not sure if they do, but that’s not the point even if that’s true. Saudis are no saints but what Pustain is doing waking havoc to another country and bringing death, destruction and starvation to his own people and Ukrainians is worse than what Saudis ever did.

 

[icemaη]

Not sure if they do, but that’s not the point even if that’s true. Saudis are no saints but what Pustain is doing waking havoc to another country and bringing death, destruction and starvation to his own people and Ukrainians is worse than what Saudis ever did.

I mean the Saudis have basically decimated Yemen and is largely responsible for one of the worst humanitarian crisis in recent times
(Funny thing, MBS thought he could finish the war in a few weeks as well, and it’s still ongoing after 6 or so years)

 

[Kopanja]

Wouldn't surprise if the main sponsor of that "Nazi" group was Putin. Commies love to create/chose/control their opposition, they invest a lot on that

Yep. Ukrainian nationalistic (not nazi though, just nationalistic) party "Svoboda" that served as a scarecrow for Russian media for years was actually funded partly by Russians or Russians proxy.

 

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[campionesidd]

Yep. Ukrainian nationalistic (not nazi though, just nationalistic) party "Svoboda" that served as a scarecrow for Russian media for years was actually funded partly by Russians or Russians proxy.

Interesting. Like how he uses the Chechens for his own advantage? It’s not outside the realm of possibility.

 

[Kopanja]

Interesting. Like how he uses the Chechens for his own advantage? It’s not outside the realm of possibility.

He doesn't use them per se, it's more a symbiotic relationship. Putin pays off Kadyrov. Kadyrov in response pretends to be a loyal servent. There is no mind game or cunning plan. It's just a big pay off.

 

[s4tch]

propaganda at its best. putler must be proud.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

propaganda at its best. putler must be proud.

As you can see every single athlete from Russia is keeping silence, bunch of pussies, even antiputinist Artemiy Panarin doesn't say shit

 

[Strickland]

All wrong

Putin negotiated not once but twice. He not only negotiated but signed agreements. They are called Minsk 1 and 2. Since their signing not a single obligation was fulfilled by Ukraine. Putin has never said he wants to restore Soviet Union. Even you shouldn't be that brainwashed since it is obvious that many ex USSR territories and countries are now in Nato and EU. Even in this conflict, it is completely false that he doesn't want to negotiate, they held 2 negotiations so far, with another one incoming.

His demands were never Ukraine giving up sovereignty, he specifically mentioned his 4 demands, none of which is occupation. It was always Nato fault, as Noam Chomsky said. Every living thing with a functional brain cell understood that putting Ukraine in Nato would mean deployment of offensive and nuclear weapons against Russia right on its border. They knowingly pursued this, moreover they supplied Ukraine with enormous amounts of offensive weapons since 2014 puppet governments. They contracted 11 biolabs sponsored by American DoD. They supported genocide of 14000 russians.
So what did you think the Russians would do? Wait and die?

1. If Donbas and the war there is the problem, why bomb Kharkov, why attack half of the country?

2. Russia has problems with the NATO shape from the last 25 years, have there been any indications during those 25 years that Russian lives are in danger? As we see even now NATO doesnt want to engage with Russia, even when theres a very clear cost of human lives every day.

 

[s4tch]

As you can see every single athlete from Russia is keeping silence, bunch of pussies, even antiputinist Artemiy Panarin doesn't say shit

in light of those 15 years of potential prison sentence, i honestly understand those. from an authoritarianism this country turned into prime commie dictatorship in a few weeks. many must leave the country and request political asylum before talking.

but not talking is one thing, and actively supporting the regime and the denazification is an other.

btw do u use tor for browsing tuz?

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

in light of those 15 years of potential prison sentence, i honestly understand those. from an authoritarianism this country turned into prime commie dictatorship in a few weeks. many must leave the country and request political asylum before talking.

but not talking is one thing, and actively supporting the regime and the denazification is an other.

btw do u use tor for browsing tuz?

Nope, why would I?

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Sephora, Paulig, Valio are leaving Russia

 

[s4tch]

Nope, why would I?

because of the country you live in?

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https://www.pravda.ru/news/world/1688172-protiv_rossii/
so according to the free russian press (lol) listing pro russia countries, some countries like argentina, turkey or mexico voted against the sanctions, and in principle, bosnia, serbia and hungary were against those too.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

because of the country you live in?

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https://www.pravda.ru/news/world/1688172-protiv_rossii/
so according to the free russian press (lol) listing pro russia countries, some countries like argentina, turkey or mexico voted against the sanctions, and in principle, bosnia, serbia and hungary were against those too.

Nah, mister policeman won't be looking here for antiputinists, they have social networks for it
Xi is prepared

 

[Kopanja]

I don't envy Russian thought police here on tuz. They would be stuck between people who clearly hate Putin and our local serbs who love Putin even more then Russian thought police.

 

[Ronn]

I mean the Saudis have basically decimated Yemen and is largely responsible for one of the worst humanitarian crisis in recent times
(Funny thing, MBS thought he could finish the war in a few weeks as well, and it’s still ongoing after 6 or so years)

I’m not defending Saudis but there are 2 sides to Yemen conflict, while Putin’s attack on Ukraine is pretty much one sided, unless you believe “it’s Nato’s fault” stuff.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Russian ministry of defense has released a new statement that says that Ukraine has had 15 American laboratories in which they were creating biological weapons fuckin hell

 

[Lapa]

Russian ministry of defense has released a new statement that says that Ukraine has had 15 American laboratories in which they were creating biological weapons fuckin hell 2:

I knew it!

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Roman is about to get away with everything