Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (76 Viewers)

Valerio.

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Jul 5, 2014
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oh gosh you sure love make me wasting time as if people need to lie about such stuff
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but technically the second one didn't openly wish for the death of russians he may have wished for russia as a country to disappear but not their people
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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oh gosh you sure love make me wasting time as if people need to lie about such stuff
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but technically the second one didn't openly wish for the death of russians he may have wished for russia as a country to disappear but not their people
Lapa is a troll and posts ridiculous things all the time… I’m assuming mostly in jest. All over the forum. You are implying that because one single person says this, that everyone is out to get you for being pro-Putin if you don’t say it. Persecution complex much. :lol:

Go pop another red pill.

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And yeah, you already blamed this on Ukraine wanting to join NATO. And again pulled the “what would America do if Mexico joined Russia alliance ?” Lol Talk about dumbassery. Putin apologist :sergio:

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Valerio.

Senior Member
Jul 5, 2014
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anyway some people wanna make me pass as a Putin supporter simply cause I said russians for geopolitical reasons won't allow a Ukraine in Nato.
Some people again took it personally when I said that China is backing Russia cause the next target is Taiwan
or that stopping the import of russian gas it's useless as their chinese allies will buy it all.
I also said the we should've sent soldiers before an actual invasion and that's hypocrisy now acting like we wanna help by selling weapons NOW.

I said many things and neither are in favor of this invasion/war/whatever or in favor of Putin but people like to take the shit for God know the reason.
Well I've been called cunt multiple times, promised death threats and I never bothered to reply but I'm also the fool
Well Funny U :D if you get the gist
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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anyway some people wanna make me pass as a Putin supporter simply cause I said russians for geopolitical reasons won't allow a Ukraine in Nato.
Some people again took it personally when I said that China is backing Russia cause the next target is Taiwan
or that stopping the import of russian gas it's useless as their chinese allies will buy it all.
I also said the we should've sent soldiers before an actual invasion and that's hypocrisy now acting like we wanna help by selling weapons NOW.

I said many things and neither are in favor of this invasion/war/whatever or in favor of Putin but people like to take the shit for God know the reason.
Well I've been called cunt multiple times, promised death threats and I never bothered to reply but I'm also the fool
Well funny U :D if you get the gist
I think what people don’t get is that you’re making it seem like Russia has a valid reason for attacking an independent country. There is no reason for them starting a war. Just because they feel threatened by NATO doesn’t mean they have a right or reason to invade Ukraine.

you’re trying to act smart by explaining why they’re doing it and it comes across as defending Russia’s actions. The point is that Russia is the only party to blame here and they deserve all the bad shit going their way because of it
 

Valerio.

Senior Member
Jul 5, 2014
5,767
I think what people don’t get is that you’re making it seem like Russia has a valid reason for attacking an independent country. There is no reason for them starting a war. Just because they feel threatened by NATO doesn’t mean they have a right or reason to invade Ukraine.

you’re trying to act smart by explaining why they’re doing it and it comes across as defending Russia’s actions. The point is that Russia is the only party to blame here and they deserve all the bad shit going their way because of it
If all you get is "you're defending Russia" by trying to guess,understand the reason for a war then is there a point to argue more?
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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I think what people don’t get is that you’re making it seem like Russia has a valid reason for attacking an independent country. There is no reason for them starting a war. Just because they feel threatened by NATO doesn’t mean they have a right or reason to invade Ukraine.

you’re trying to act smart by explaining why they’re doing it and it comes across as defending Russia’s actions. The point is that Russia is the only party to blame here and they deserve all the bad shit going their way because of it
This is such a blue eyed perspective imo. They have no right, legally or morally - but they have plenty of reasons from a national security perspective. Same with Crimea.


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ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,545
If all you get is "you're defending Russia" by trying to guess,understand the reason for a war then is there a point to argue more?
there is no reason, that’s the point

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This is such a blue eyed perspective imo. They have no right, legally or morally - but they have plenty of reasons from a national security perspective. Same with Crimea.


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who are they threatened by? Since they have a security perspective?

no one, Putin is just afraid of an uprising because Ukrainians are doing what Russian citizens want and succeeding at it. It’s a bad look for Russia to have a country with identical population thrive under democracy while they’re under his iron fist.

if you think that’s a reason to attack another country, then idk what to tell you
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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there is no reason, that’s the point

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who are they threatened by? Since they have a security perspective?

no one, Putin is just afraid of an uprising because Ukrainians are doing what Russian citizens want and succeeding at it. It’s a bad look for Russia to have a country with identical population thrive under democracy while they’re under his iron fist.

if you think that’s a reason to attack another country, then idk what to tell you
.. nato? Idk if youre trolling here. But thats a real security concern.


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pavelnel

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Oct 24, 2006
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This is such a blue eyed perspective imo. They have no right, legally or morally - but they have plenty of reasons from a national security perspective. Same with Crimea.


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No, they don't have any reason. All their reasons are just fabricated. No one in their right mind is going to attack a nuclear power. Except another dictator/autocracy.

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Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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No, they don't have any reason. All their reasons are just fabricated. No one in their right mind is going to attack a nuclear power. Except another dictator/autocracy.

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Thats just not true. Missile defences, proximity of nato nukes etc. There’s plenty of reasons that deserve attention. But Im outta this thread - hoping for a swift end to the invasion and a lasting peace agreement.


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pavelnel

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Oct 24, 2006
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Thats just not true. Missile defences, proximity of nato nukes etc. There’s plenty of reasons that deserve attention. But Im outta this thread - hoping for a swift end to the invasion and a lasting peace agreement.


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It has been true for close to 80 years... NATO is not Russia's enemy but China will be...

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