Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (69 Viewers)

Valerio.

Senior Member
Jul 5, 2014
5,767
West have left Ukraine alone... they are trying to look good while doing that and praying for Putin be a good boy and don't go further than what they all already may have agreed

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you're kidding but I wouldn't be surprised nor shocked if that was true.
I mean if they really wanted to help Ukraine they would've sent thousands of soldiers way before the invasion.
With thousands of Nato/Eu/US soldiers I doubt Russia would've risked a direct war against the world
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
37,877
so Ukrainian news are pro-Ukrainian, and Russian are pro-Russian. Well, I am shocked, shocked.
Thats a pretty reductive way to read my post, but ok. I’d make a minor correction and say that all news, except Russian news, is pro-ukranian and just as incorrect as RT atm. Once Zelensky realises he is being played hard by his partners Ukraine will sleek unilateral peace talks with Russian and accept most terms - thats the only way out as far as I can see.


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kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
7,475
You are from Romania? How is situation over there, the general mood. I ll fly fo Bucharest in 2 weeks. What a time to make a trip.
We are worried about the developments in Ukraine. My government is taking steps to welcome any potential Ukrainian refugees.
The mood is coutiously optimistic in that putin would never dare to come south since we have 2 American military bases and 1 anti-missile defense shield down here.
Life goes on as normal. The country is as anti Russia as it gets since they have "gifted" us 45 years of comunism and our grandparents still tells us story of what the red army war crimes looked like when they invaded back in 42 or 43.

I live near a joint NATO base and as I was coming home from the shopping center a convoy of army vehicles drove rapidly down the street to that military base.
So it seems we are in full alert mode.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,513
says the one hoping to kill 144m people
Dude I get you're in shit because of the situation
But honestly you could pass the next 24hours citing every word of the dictionary to insult me and I wouldn't give as much as attention as squashing a mosquito.
Get it?
You can avoid to argue or reply me. You can put me in ignore or you can insult me for what? cause I'm not on any side?
You're right I'm italian and know jackshit about the war and I'm happy that way.
I'm happy I can talk rationally. I'm happy I'm not some russian supporter or anything.
Oh also threating to kill me after is over is very mature :D now If I were some 14yrs old kid I would send you the adress telling something like I'm gonna be here waiting you
Really like in classic Internet.
Instead why don't you chill and put me in ignore list?
Can you use your two remaining brain cells, to just click log off and forget your password?


Gives me migraine to read this amount of mental midgetry in one single post. Its ridiculous how entitled clueless people are in wanting to be heard when they have nothing to say.
 
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Kopanja

Senior Member
Jul 30, 2015
5,596
Thats a pretty reductive way to read my post, but ok. I’d make a minor correction and say that all news, except Russian news, is pro-ukranian and just as incorrect as RT atm. Once Zelensky realises he is being played hard by his partners Ukraine will sleek unilateral peace talks with Russian and accept most terms - thats the only way out as far as I can see.
Our news are incorrect, but they have nothing on RT. RT talks we are nazis, junkies , etc. Our news are your typical war propaganda, RT and the likes are detached from reality completely.
 

Tomice

Senior Member
Mar 25, 2009
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Thats a pretty reductive way to read my post, but ok. I’d make a minor correction and say that all news, except Russian news, is pro-ukranian and just as incorrect as RT atm. Once Zelensky realises he is being played hard by his partners Ukraine will sleek unilateral peace talks with Russian and accept most terms - thats the only way out as far as I can see.


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I agree with the point you are making but you must be out of your mind to think any news is close to RT/Russia level of propaganda. In this time or before it.
 

duranfj

Senior Member
Jul 30, 2015
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you're kidding but I wouldn't be surprised nor shocked if that was true.
I mean if they really wanted to help Ukraine they would've sent thousands of soldiers way before the invasion.
With thousands of Nato/Eu/US soldiers I doubt Russia would've risked a direct war against the world
Of course the West had many opportunities and options to execute with plenty time before the invasion... it wasn't like we wake up one morning and "look, 100k Russian troops came out of nowhere in Ukraine border and start to attack"
 

BayernFan

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Feb 17, 2016
7,125
We are worried about the developments in Ukraine. My government is taking steps to welcome any potential Ukrainian refugees.
The mood is coutiously optimistic in that putin would never dare to come south since we have 2 American military bases and 1 anti-missile defense shield down here.
Life goes on as normal. The country is as anti Russia as it gets since they have "gifted" us 45 years of comunism and our grandparents still tells us story of what the red army war crimes looked like when they invaded back in 42 or 43.

I live near a joint NATO base and as I was coming home from the shopping center a convoy of army vehicles drove rapidly down the street to that military base.
So it seems we are in full alert mode.
I always find it funny when apologists says "when the Red Army liberated Europe from nazism/fascism".

Oh yeah, what a liberation. They liberated Eastern Europe so much that they had to stay there for 45 years. :lol3:

There's nothing like a Russian "liberation".
 

kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
7,475
I always find it funny when apologists says "when the Red Army liberated Europe from nazism/fascism".

Oh yeah, what a liberation. They liberated Eastern Europe so much that they had to stay there for 45 years. :lol3:

There's nothing like a Russian "liberation".
Yeah, they raped and pillaged every civilian and building in they're quest for riding us of fascism.

BTW my government just announced that Romanian air space is closed for any Russian air craft be it civilian or military.
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
37,877
I always find it funny when apologists says "when the Red Army liberated Europe from nazism/fascism".

Oh yeah, what a liberation. They liberated Eastern Europe so much that they had to stay there for 45 years. :lol3:

There's nothing like a Russian "liberation".
Here comes the neo nazi revisionism :lol:


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BayernFan

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Feb 17, 2016
7,125
Here comes the neo nazi revisionism :lol:


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I despise Nazism and what it caused.

But it doesn't remove the Russians from equal guilt. Sure, they pushed the Germans out of the occupied nations, but they never liberated them as some would like to claim.

They just replaced one authoritarian regime with another. Communism under the Soviet Union was equally bad for most of it's history.
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
37,877
I despise Nazism and what it caused.

But it doesn't remove the Russians from equal guilt. Sure, they pushed the Germans out of the occupied nations, but they never liberated them as some would like to claim.

They just replaced one authoritarian regime with another.
That’s too reductive again, and would require going into cold war causality, which again equals to: not that simple. You need to include broader implications of what wouldve happened had the third reich won and then your analysis becomes a bit more complicated than a three line post.


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