Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (112 Viewers)

[Lancelot]

Can a mod thread ban this propaganda spewing jackass. I doubt Kopanja wants to be reading his BS about Russia and Putin having “every right to denazify Ukraine” while his country is being invaded and civilians being purposefully shelled.

I am sorry for what is happening in Ukraine.

Earlier I said that EU and Western powers should act as intermediaries between Ukraine and Russia in order to stop this.
By pouring more and more weapons they are just throwing more fuel into the fire and prolonging the war.

 

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[Juventino[RUS]]

Spotify, Netflix are leaving Russia

 

[ALC]

There is a nazi group in Ukraine. It`s called Azov.


I am not sure where you reside, but if you are somewhere in US or Canada, just for comparison they are something like KKK in US.

like RUS said, that’s rookie numbers. A tiny percentage of deranged people doesn’t mean they have a systematic nazi issue in the country

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

like RUS said, that’s rookie numbers. A tiny percentage of deranged people doesn’t mean they have a systematic nazi issue in the country

what he doesn't tell you is that back in 2014 Putin's propaganda have been using Yarosh and his party "Right sector" and his followers as the reason to invade and protect russians inside of Ukraine Then he lost election in which he have gained around 0.5% of the voices and then Putin's propaganda gave up on him

 

[Post Ironic]

I am sorry for what is happening in Ukraine.

Earlier I said that EU and Western powers should act as intermediaries between Ukraine and Russia in order to stop this.
By pouring more and more weapons they are just throwing more fuel into the fire and prolonging the war.

Russia has refused to negotiate over Ukraine. Putin has consistently said his goal to recreate the Soviet Union under his authoritarian regime. He’s a madman who can’t be negotatiated with because his demand is Ukrainians give up their sovereignty and he’s threatening nuclear war against anyone who interferes. So quit with the nonsense. There is one party at fault and acting like madmen, and it’s not NATO however desperately you want to warp reality to suit your Putin-excusing, west hating narrative. And maybe just maybe stop spewing garbage Russian propaganda about Ukraine being a puppet state and full of Nazis. The president was elected democratically and is a Jew who lost many family members to the Holocaust.

 

[Lancelot]

like RUS said, that’s rookie numbers. A tiny percentage of deranged people doesn’t mean they have a systematic nazi issue in the country

I agree

But it is one of the main reasons. Even in Germany, the Nazi movement didn`t start with millions of people.

 

[Dostoevsky]

like RUS said, that’s rookie numbers. A tiny percentage of deranged people doesn’t mean they have a systematic nazi issue in the country

Depends. When you have 400 Serbs in the streets then it's the whole nation.

 

[Zeus]

I have no idea what's happening in Ukraine , so I don't act like i know , but you're talking about something i was old enough to remember everything what happened, you can't tell me about it

Also Putin was lying saying people from Kosovo/Albania are fighting in Ukraine that's 100% lie and propaganda. And i would rather believe Ukraine people (tuz memeber here) and even Russian guys like [RUS] are against it .


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There is people from Kosovo/Albania are fighting there and chechnya too and its normal if i moved to a country , live there , have friends there and a life and another country attacked it i will fight them this is actually what any normal person should do , you live in a place you defend it with your life even if its not your original country

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

I agree

But it is one of the main reasons. Even in Germany, the Nazi movement didn`t start with millions of people.

Every single nation on the face of this Earth to ever have or ever will exist has what could be considered a nazi group/movement, that's a bullshit excuse.

 

[s4tch]

I agree

But it is one of the main reasons. Even in Germany, the Nazi movement didn`t start with millions of people.

that's what their propaganda says. and too many dumbo's believe that bullshit.

you don't invade a country over 500 nazis. nobody does. try to think about an other reason.

 

[X Æ A-12]

I agree

But it is one of the main reasons. Even in Germany, the Nazi movement didn`t start with millions of people.

So to stop the nazis you topple the current stable, democratically elected government that is trying to strengthen ties with the liberal democratic west?

Isn't chaos and destruction more likely to create radical organizations that will attract followers who normally would never join something like that?

If anything they've probably created more nazis in ukraine

 

[Zeus]

the funny thing that alot of neo nazis in Ukraine actually belong to the Russian national unity which is a neo nazi group in Russia that branched to Ukraine

 

[s4tch]

So to stop the nazis you topple the current stable, democratically elected government that is trying to strengthen ties with the liberal democratic west?

and you cripple your own economy
and invade a country
and kill thousands of citizens
and bomb the shit out of a complete country
and fire missiles at some nuclear plants
and threaten the world with nuclear responses

but but but nazis

 

[Albo]

There is people from Kosovo/Albania are fighting there and chechnya too and its normal if i moved to a country , live there , have friends there and a life and another country attacked it i will fight them this is actually what any normal person should do , you live in a place you defend it with your life even if its not your original country

People who lives there maybe , idk about them , but as you stated that's another case and understandable. But there are 0 people from Kosovo(who are living here) fighting there .


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[Zeus]

People who lives there maybe , idk about them , but as you stated that's another case and understandable. But there are 0 people from Kosovo(who are living here) fighting there .


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Yea I meant what you are saying

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

We have to invade america to protect ethnic slavs from this nazis

 

[BayernFan]

I agree

But it is one of the main reasons. Even in Germany, the Nazi movement didn`t start with millions of people.

Putler, is that you?

 

[Lancelot]

Russia has refused to negotiate over Ukraine. Putin has consistently said his goal to recreate the Soviet Union under his authoritarian regime. He’s a madman who can’t be negotatiated with because his demand is Ukrainians give up their sovereignty and he’s threatening nuclear war against anyone who interferes. So quit with the nonsense. There is one party at fault and acting like madmen, and it’s not NATO however desperately you want to warp reality to suit your Putin-excusing, west hating narrative. And maybe just maybe stop spewing garbage Russian propaganda about Ukraine being a puppet state and full of Nazis. The president was elected democratically and is a Jew who lost many family members to the Holocaust.

All wrong

Putin negotiated not once but twice. He not only negotiated but signed agreements. They are called Minsk 1 and 2. Since their signing not a single obligation was fulfilled by Ukraine. Putin has never said he wants to restore Soviet Union. Even you shouldn't be that brainwashed since it is obvious that many ex USSR territories and countries are now in Nato and EU. Even in this conflict, it is completely false that he doesn't want to negotiate, they held 2 negotiations so far, with another one incoming.

His demands were never Ukraine giving up sovereignty, he specifically mentioned his 4 demands, none of which is occupation. It was always Nato fault, as Noam Chomsky said. Every living thing with a functional brain cell understood that putting Ukraine in Nato would mean deployment of offensive and nuclear weapons against Russia right on its border. They knowingly pursued this, moreover they supplied Ukraine with enormous amounts of offensive weapons since 2014 puppet governments. They contracted 11 biolabs sponsored by American DoD. They supported genocide of 14000 russians.
So what did you think the Russians would do? Wait and die?

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Man, he's absolutely retarded

 

[Vlad]

So to stop the nazis you topple the current stable, democratically elected government that is trying to strengthen ties with the liberal democratic west?

Isn't chaos and destruction more likely to create radical organizations that will attract followers who normally would never join something like that?

If anything they've probably created more nazis in ukraine

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