Ruh Row, Korean Conflict Brewing (3 Viewers)

Apr 12, 2004
77,165
#21
I tried very hard not to laugh at what he said or be patronizing about it. Believe me, the post i just wrote took a lot of restraint from me.


Western governments have killed more people than us poor middle easterners can ever dream of, yet he believes it to be perfectly ok for them and that murdering thieving Israeli occupation to have nuclear weapons but its not ok for Iran.

Double standards at its very best.
As we should since half of Middle Easterners still wipe their ass with their hands.

Plus, why do you care? You're Scottish.
 

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JBF

اختك يا زمن
Aug 5, 2006
18,451
#22
You've got to be kidding me, you support Iran getting nuclear weapons?! If it wasn't for the all of the negative effects that would ensue for countries around the world I would be in full support of Israel doing whatever they had to before allowing nuclear weapons in the hands of such.

I don't like Israel at all but they are far less radical and have every right to feel threatened by Iran's nuclear program. Iran getting nuclear weapons is the last thing that needs to happen to resolve this without bloodshed

No offense but I think that world is much safer with a majority of nuclear weapons in the hand of western nations and I support doing everything possible to keep them out of the hands of any middle eastern country. I don't care if its fair or not but nuclear weapons and unstable political environments is a bad combination.
What negative effects are you talking about? If countries in the west still feels threatened whenever a muslim country makes a leap towards a nuclear project then they are the radical ones. Iran and every middle eastern country have every right to go forward with their own nuclear project, you can argue all you want about western superiority but facts say that it was westerns who actually used these mass destruction wepons not the so called radical-unstable 300 million middle eastern nor the 1 billion muslim.

And Im just wondering why would you think israel should feel threatened from an Iranian nuclear project when they've probably one of the deadliest nuclear and biological weaponry not only in the middle east but also in the world.

On a final note, if you think that any middle eastern country is a sure unstable environment, get a grip of reality and check how may Western civilized countries change into fuckin riots when certain economical or political problems hit a country. There's no such thing as stable environments taken for granted.
 

Ahmed

Principino
Sep 3, 2006
47,928
#23
the only thing that has kept US nuclear installations safe and sound is Jack Bauer.

and y'all talk about unstable Middle Eastern govts.!
 
Apr 12, 2004
77,165
#24
What negative effects are you talking about? If countries in the west still feels threatened whenever a muslim country makes a leap towards a nuclear project then they are the radical ones. Iran and every middle eastern country have every right to go forward with their own nuclear project, you can argue all you want about western superiority but facts say that it was westerns who actually used these mass destruction wepons not the so called radical-unstable 300 million middle eastern nor the 1 billion muslim.

And Im just wondering why would you think israel should feel threatened from an Iranian nuclear project when they've probably one of the deadliest nuclear and biological weaponry not only in the middle east but also in the world.

On a final note, if you think that any middle eastern country is a sure unstable environment, get a grip of reality and check how may Western civilized countries change into fuckin riots when certain economical or political problems hit a country. There's no such thing as stable environments taken for granted.
Western governments?

How many countries have used nuclear weapons in a war? How many were used?
 

JBF

اختك يا زمن
Aug 5, 2006
18,451
#31
ßüякε;2459518 said:
Western governments?

How many countries have used nuclear weapons in a war? How many were used?
U.S.A is the only country to ever use nuclear weapons in a war yet my point was about the use of Nuclear weapons in general and that includes the French Nuclear tests in the Algerian desert and the Americans (yet again) using the Uranium shelled missiles against the Iraqi civilians in the second gulf war, even many U.S soldiers fell victim to cancer as a result of the overuse of those deadly toxic weapons.

And you can add the Chernobel disaster to the list of Nuclear fuck-ups by the Great West.
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
#35
Fact of the matter is, nobody can give a real logical and rational reason as to why an inhumane government like the Israeli one is allowed to have nuclear weapons why Iran is not.
 

X Æ A-12

Senior Member
Contributor
Sep 4, 2006
88,000
#37
What you fail to understand and what you people always leave out is that while western countries have stable internal political environments, they have always been the most governments that have instigated international conflicts.

Portuguese, British, French and Italian imperialism in Africa and the Middle East is a prime example.

Something else you are forgetting is, the two governments that are responsible for the innocent lives of most people in this new century have not been Iraq, Iran or North Korea. No sir, they have been the US(Afghanistan and Iraq) and Israel.

So when you look past the bullshit your media has been feeding you, you'd know that the two most inhumane, cold blooded, murdering governments are governments who already have nuclear weapons.
We aren't looking to start a nuclear war with Israel or any other nation for that matter. But if you think the world would be safer if the US just handed all of its nukes over to Iran and North Korea than that is your opinion. And to clarify I'm not defending Israel, they shouldn't have nukes either.

All I am saying is that as an American citizen I feel much safer knowing that the US has nukes while North Korea and Iran do not. The United States is not going to nuke (unless absolutely necessary) anybody after what happened in WWII, Iran actually might use it.

It was unfair me to point a finger at the entire middle east but Iran having nuclear weapons is not good for anybody, not even iran.

If you have something to say I'd love to hear it
 

X Æ A-12

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Contributor
Sep 4, 2006
88,000
#38
Fact of the matter is, nobody can give a real logical and rational reason as to why an inhumane government like the Israeli one is allowed to have nuclear weapons why Iran is not.
So because one government that shouldn't have nuclear weapons does the other government that shouldn't have them either should get them just to make things fair?
 

X Æ A-12

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Sep 4, 2006
88,000
#39
And Im just wondering why would you think israel should feel threatened from an Iranian nuclear project when they've probably one of the deadliest nuclear and biological weaponry not only in the middle east but also in the world.
So you are saying if Israel held "death to Jordan" rallies every year, denied Jordan had a right to exist, and wanted to wipe them off the face of the planet you would be totally cool with Israel developing nuclear weapons?
 

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