Real Madrid: Fall of an Empire (3 Viewers)

Elnur_E65

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Feb 21, 2004
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As we all know in March the Socialist Party (headed by Rodriguez Sepatero) has won parliamentary elections in Spain. I think that this will be a significant development in Spanish football.

Former Spanish PM- Hose Asnar is a big Real Madrid fan. Sepatero on the other hand is a strong supporter of Barcelona. I think that with Sepatero ruling the country we will see Spanish referees move from partisan support of Real towards Barca. I am sure Silvio Berlusconi would be more than happy to share this experience with his Spanish counterpart.

There is one more thing. As some of you may remember, the City of Madrid purchased Real’s training sites for $480 million back in 2001. Back then this helped Real to repay its $245 million debts and start an unprecedented superstar purchase-campaign. The problem is that Real’s land was very overvalued- its cost was much less than $480 million, but when your biggest supporter is a Prime Minister- you don’t really care. There is a committee investigating this incident, but they couldn’t do anything for three years for apparent reasons, in spite of UEFA’s concern with the situation. With a new Prime Minister I think we will be seeing some new developments, and if Real is proven wrong, then we will happily expect a serious punishment.

I think a great outcome to this would be to fine Real Madrid for the amount that the land was overrated (because we are talking about a football club stealing money from the city of Madrid in a corrupt and nasty way), which, some analysts say rounds up to $150 million, and kick Real Madrid out of the Spanish Liga into Secunda division!

I think it will be totally great. No Real Madrid in major Spanish and European competitions! They will be hit so hard that it will take Real years or even decades to recover.

I don’t know why I hate Real Madrid so much.
 

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Ahmed_

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++ [ originally posted by Pendir ] ++
As we all know in March the Socialist Party (headed by Rodriguez Sepatero) has won parliamentary elections in Spain. I think that this will be a significant development in Spanish football.

Former Spanish PM- Hose Asnar is a big Real Madrid fan. Sepatero on the other hand is a strong supporter of Barcelona. I think that with Sepatero ruling the country we will see Spanish referees move from partisan support of Real towards Barca. I am sure Silvio Berlusconi would be more than happy to share this experience with his Spanish counterpart.

There is one more thing. As some of you may remember, the City of Madrid purchased Real’s training sites for $480 million back in 2001. Back then this helped Real to repay its $245 million debts and start an unprecedented superstar purchase-campaign. The problem is that Real’s land was very overvalued- its cost was much less than $480 million, but when your biggest supporter is a Prime Minister- you don’t really care. There is a committee investigating this incident, but they couldn’t do anything for three years for apparent reasons, in spite of UEFA’s concern with the situation. With a new Prime Minister I think we will be seeing some new developments, and if Real is proven wrong, then we will happily expect a serious punishment.

I think a great outcome to this would be to fine Real Madrid for the amount that the land was overrated (because we are talking about a football club stealing money from the city of Madrid in a corrupt and nasty way), which, some analysts say rounds up to $150 million, and kick Real Madrid out of the Spanish Liga into Secunda division!

I think it will be totally great. No Real Madrid in major Spanish and European competitions! They will be hit so hard that it will take Real years or even decades to recover.

I don’t know why I hate Real Madrid so much.
I don't know why they love Real Madrid so much :yuck:
 
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Elnur_E65

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    ++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++
    Very nice theory but you have overlooked King Juan Carlos.
    Good point. I wonder who has more power in Spain- Royal Family or the PM.
     
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    Elnur_E65

    Elnur_E65

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    ++ [ originally posted by fred weasley ] ++
    problem is Real are the most popular and the most supported team in the world.
    I would disagree. They are the most successful in the world- and that's thanks to 9 european cups (5 of which were in the 1950s). Other than the Liga they haven't achieved much in the past two seasons, only spent their money.

    I have actually seen an independant study somewhere which claimed that Juventus has the largest number of supporters in Europe, slighly more than Real Madrid. But I lost the source though.
     

    Hydde

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    Mar 6, 2003
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    He is a jackass... The staory wil repeat once after another if he continues with his "zidanes" and "pavones" rule.

    About madrid and the "ciudad deportiva" incident.... i hope they will be catched guilty :D... but i dont think that it will happen.
     

    Hydde

    Minimiliano Tristelli
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    Unos años atras...creo q fue antes de q compraran a figo,...el real madrid vendio como una instalaciones deportivas q ellos tenian al gobierno... llamada "ciudad deportiva".. y la vendieron a un dineral..como a 450 millones algo asi.

    Buenod espues de eso vino el cambio de presidentes...florentino perez tomo cargo del real..y alli fue dodne empexo el relajito ese de ocmprar una super estrella cada temporada.
    Bueno ahora Pendir dice q hay algunas vainas q o estan claras conr especto al verdadero costo de esas tierras.. y q puede q el madrid haya vendido los terrenos a un oprecio mucho mas alto del q en verdad era, os ea..q engañaron al gobierno.
    Hay "rumores" por alli de q el real madrid es ayudado por el gobierno español en sus finanzas.. y esto no seria justo para los otros ekipos.
    Ahora q van a haber cambios en la presidencia del pais...parece q el nuevo presidente de españa es fan del barcelona.. y si parece q como kieren reabrir el caso y averiguar bien lo q paso.
     

    Fred

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    ++ [ originally posted by Pendir ] ++


    I would disagree. They are the most successful in the world- and that's thanks to 9 european cups (5 of which were in the 1950s). Other than the Liga they haven't achieved much in the past two seasons, only spent their money.

    I have actually seen an independant study somewhere which claimed that Juventus has the largest number of supporters in Europe , slighly more than Real Madrid. But I lost the source though.
    in europe juve is the team with the largest amount of supporters.i said that Real had the largest number of fans in the world(especially in Asia)
     
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    Elnur_E65

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    ++ [ originally posted by fred weasley ] ++
    in europe juve is the team with the largest amount of supporters.i said that Real had the largest number of fans in the world(especially in Asia)
    Yes, this might be true, especially after the last World Cup.

    I wonder if this "worldwide-fan" information is available anywhere...
     

    kaizer

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    Nov 1, 2003
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    perez is a moron :howler:

    but, i'm actually afraid of real.....their money. the galacticos is a good attraction for players, thus some of our "targets" maybe snubbing us to go to real :scared:
     

    Fred

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    ++ [ originally posted by Pendir ] ++


    Yes, this might be true, especially after the last World Cup.

    I wonder if this "worldwide-fan" information is available anywhere...
    i heard it from a commentator.
     

    Len

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    Feb 13, 2004
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    They aren't the best, they aren't that good either.
    If they are, how come they lose to Monaco, Zaragoza (or whatever team it is that beat them in the Spanish Cup final), Sociedad and even to Juve last year? :confused:
     

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