The main thing is a club such as Juventus should never see 2nd place as an improvement, Scudetto or GTFO.
If we dont make some significant defensive improvements, with real investments and not just some lame cheap/free players, i predict that we are going to win nothing, again, coming next year.
But it doesnt mean that it is going to be the faults of our players and our new manager.
We will have to face Inter and to face them, we have to be almost as good as them.
They have a complete team, with competitive players in all their lines and a very tactician who can take the better of them.
Even more, they have a core that has developed some great teamwork through the years and they quality of their depth players, is almost as competitive as our starters. Not to mention the control of media and the league)
It is unrealistic to expect us to win them with starters like Grygera, a 36yo Canna/Legro, Molinaro, Marchionni and Poulsen...
They are far too many steps ahead...
And it is totally unfair for the efforts our players will put, despite the handicap! To condemn their effort, only because they werent able to beat that monster. Our players did their duty in all competitions, unlike Milan's and Roma's...
Judging by the result alone is not fair IMO, but even then, coming first after "mighty" Inter should be considered a success!!
I agree, That theoretically, as Juve we should aim for the best.
But it is not realistic right now! And this is a decision made by our very own board, we have different priorities now.
I really hate that, more than every body else here, because i am the one complaining the most about that, when others tolerate it.
But thats it!!
It is not fair to expect wonders from our players/coach...
They have ranked higher than better teams and we should at least give them that!!!
What should Roma+Milan fans give to their team then??
When i voted for this season i just voted by having the expectations i had in August in mind.
I expected 3rd place, with at least semifinal in Coppa and at least to pass the group stages in CL. That was the average, the 5.5.
We won the second place (sharing it with Milan, with a worse goal difference but better H2H, which luckily counts), we made it to the semi in coppa and to the second round in CL, and i see only a slight improvement from my expectations. That's why i voted 6.00.
Man, we have exceeded your expectations, in the championship AND Coppa AND CL, and you just give it an extra 0.5?
If we were failing any of them, it would have been just a 0.2 or 0.3??
I had similar expectations and i would have rated us with just a 7 if were achieving a similar position in the board but worse in CL or coppa or 6 if we were failing both.
The real question is what each and every one of us considers the grade. For example, Andy voted for a 5, what does it take for him to give an 8? You voted an 8, what is a 10 for you?
I voted for a 7, it would have been 8 had we won the Coppa, 9 had we won either the Scudetto or the CL and 10 had we won both.
True that!! We should make a point of reference!
Some points are not event considered by some voters.
It is not only our position in the league, we have done well in every competition,
we have improved our teamwork and added two new starters in our team!
These have to count as well!
10 for me, considering that our season was already wasted by the end of August would have been a title, yes even Coppa, the decent appearance in the CL we have shown and at least the 2# in the league. That would be worthy of the sacrifices we made in our transfer policy, with the quantity>quality concept.
Momentary gains vs our future prosperity wouldnt be my pick, but i could accept/respect that!
And of course taking the maximum of our team's potential, even DC and Giovinco! (two more starters from those two, even after a bad transfer period, woulnt undermine our five year plan, that is our strategical priority)
9 Would have been the same positions, maybe without the negative record and with a better use of our youngsters that would have upgraded our team for the future!
I just wanted us to minimize the damage done in the last summer transfers!
8.Would have been a decent overperforming in all the competitions we have participated, ranking higher than more competitive teams. And we have just did that IMO
7. Same as last year, but without the extra added depth we had, or with the extra handicap of hostile refs to undermine our final result.
6. Same as last year, 3# is our natural position/duty and we would rank there with average performance.
5.Repeat that average performance but lose 3# just because of external intervention. Refs or an unreal performance of one of our competitors.
4.Decent appearance in CL+cup but losing CL position in the league, or the other way around
3. Bad performance in all competitions and UEFA rank in the league
2. Same and even worse...
1. No UEFA, bellow 10#
-1,-2,-3 unconcievable relegation zone