Ramadan Kareem!! (11 Viewers)

sallyinzaghi · Oct 31, 2003

buka puasa food is, aah, the food that u have when u break ur fast. in malaysia ppl sell LOADS of food during ramadhan.

yes majed, i dont understand any of arabic (heh) i studied japanese and i find it a lot easier than arabic, its hard for me to understand the fi'il, saraf and harf stuff.

is it true that during ramdhan satan is chained?

CuTe-17 · Oct 31, 2003

i know it's late but Happy Ramadan..

kel 3am wentu b5air shabab ew banat,,!!

aressandro10 · Oct 31, 2003

bazaar ramadan..... :touched:

rindunye masakan mesia...

vitoria_Ally · Oct 31, 2003

Thanks Ali for those two posts with explanation what Ramadan is

sallyinzaghi · Oct 31, 2003

honestly? ramadhan is the only month im aware of what im doing. such a holy month.....

hey, those who live in arab, where do u ppl perform ur tarawikh prayers?

Majed · Oct 31, 2003

in a mousque like regular prayers. well, usually people go to the biggest mousques not just the little ones near home.

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Great Explenation Ali. :thumb:

i couldn't have found a better one myself. ( i really looked :angel:

..sorry Vit :embarass: )

Zizou · Oct 31, 2003

Gray - I never knew you were such a Christian; always thought you were being sarcastic with those images and quotes.

Ok a question for the you Muslims cos I don't know your religion that much so I'm curious about some things:

Why are you so happy about this period when all you do is pray and are deprived from food, sex and all that is fun?

This is an honest and serious question cos my mind finds it hard to imagine someone going through all that.

vitoria_Ally · Oct 31, 2003

Oh sure, I believe :lazy:

j/k

No problem

sallyinzaghi · Nov 1, 2003

i dont know bout other ppl, but this would be my answer :

ramdhan is a month where a muslim's ultimate goal is to get closer to god. without the worldly distractions- eg food sex etc, one will find it a lot easier to pray, read the quran etc more often. once u do this, u feel more serene, at peace and content. at least i do

anyhow to make it simple- why i find ramdhan the best moment in every year is because the pleasure of serving god is much greater than just eating delicious food and having good sex

sounds unbelievable, i know, but its true for me. its the serenity of ramadhan that makes it all so beautiful

Zizou · Nov 2, 2003

Thanks for answering.

I still would rather have sex than read a the bibble

gray · Nov 3, 2003

For real? Why would I bother making a mockery of those images and quotes if i didn't care much for them?

Hrmm I dunno if i should take that as a compliment

Glenn, from my previous post, what exactly changed your perception?

Thanks for the info DaJuve

"The good that is acquired through the fast can be destroyed by five things -

greed or covetousness "

Wow, that's gotta take some discipline. How does one turn their mind from greed in any aspect of their lives? Maybe fasting is supposed to turn your dependence to God instead of food, but how can someone not experience greed when they see or smell delicious food during a fast? It doesn't even have to be food, there's so many things in the world that bring out greed within people.

gray · Nov 3, 2003

It's dangerous to eat too much in one go after a long period of fasting, because your body's not used to taking so much in. So take it easy after each fasting period, and don't have a big pig-out, like I did after the first time i did a long-term fast :stress: :yuck:

What are the other pillars of Islam?

Zizou · Nov 3, 2003

Gray from the exact quotes you mentioned. Tell me more about why you are so devoted etc. Personally I really find it difficult to see or meet christians who are real christians nowadays. Cos of the old and obsolete ideas the church has it will never attract young people. However the pope is amazing, he deserved the nobel for peace. Gives his heart out to everyone; I can't help but admiring such a person, irrespective of what religion he might be.

So you follow all the commandments etc?

gray · Nov 3, 2003

I guess that's different from church to church, because we've found that there's no point sticking to old traditions and all that. Our church is pretty casual and laid-back, and the messages all apply to contemporary contexts. Here's some links to recent messages, many people are surprised when they hear them, because most people expect to hear in a dull, monotonous voice "thou shalt not..."

http://www.saesoontv.com/em/sermons/emS031005Eddie.wma
http://www.saesoontv.com/em/sermons/emS031012Eddie.wma
http://www.saesoontv.com/em/sermons/emS031019Eddie.wma
http://www.saesoontv.com/em/sermons/emS031026Eddie.wma

I beg u, have a quick listen, even just to hear one of the most gifted speakers i've ever met.

Well of course I try, but nobody's perfect. That's the great thing, though. I know I'm forgiven for all my shortcomings, and the natural reaction to knowing that your slate has been wiped clean is worship and service to the God that saved you.

More so than the Ten Commandments, "you shall not..." i think it's great to just follow the 'great' commandments:

Matthew 22:36-39

"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'

Most people think that Christianity is about following rules, like "you shall not..." but I'm in it for a relationship with the God who saved me :thumb:

Zizou · Nov 3, 2003

Saved you from what?

Btw I always confuse it...am I catholic or christian? :LOL: I really can't remember. So what's different from your religion to mine since they sound the same but obivously yours is a bit different? And where you this devoted from when yo uwere young or did you have an incident which made you believe more?

I actually have a story regarding my faith. I think it was in 97 or 98. Me and two mates went to this retreat for the weekend; it was for young people called 'Come and See' with masses, religious activities and healing mass.

My mates and I actually went there cos we heard that lots of girls go to these things so we umm err did not really go for the purest of reasons.

Anyway on the the third day we had this healing mass. Basically we were divided into groups of around 8 - 10 people and each group had it's group leader. The group Leader would put his hand on the forehead of people one at a time, praying and then without him knowing he would start talking in a different language he did not know. Some people were fainting and I was laughing at them cos I thought it was just them being brainwashed or having this conception into their head so the fainting was something they made happen.

When my turn came, I was taking the piss but as soon as he put his hand over my forehead and I closed my eyes as he asked me to do, I saw a light, then I heard him speak in a strange language and finally when I opened my eyes I found myself lying on the ground as I had lost conscious for about 30 seconds. I remember when this happened I couldn't control myself and started crying. But it wasn't crying of pain but a sort of joy cos I felt inside myself free.

My friends were astonished when I told them and the next day they remarked how I turned into a lamb in my character as I ws nicer and more quiet.

To this day I have no idea what happened, but whatever it was, it freaked me out and changed me. Though nowadays I`m back to my old ways so maybe I need another enlightment

gray · Nov 3, 2003

Thanks for sharing that Glenn

Eternal pain and suffering.

Romans 6:23

"For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."

Why is mine a bit different? It's a grey area, really. I define a Christian as someone who follows Christ, and AFAIK Catholics do that, so I don't really understand the distinction between Catholics and 'Christians'. I'm a Protestant btw.

I've been going to church since I was young, but it was obviously just to meet my friends. I knew the bible stories and all that, but I didn't really give my life to Christ or take any of it really seriously until i was in about year 8 or 9.

Zizou · Nov 3, 2003

Any particular incident that made you give your life to Christ?

As I said before, it's really tough being religious nowadays so you have all my respect and admiration at something I'll never be able to do, though I wish I could cos sometimes (actually not just sometimes) when things are going wrong you do need the comfort of knowing there is someone out there.

What did you make out of my story? I know it's kinda hard to believe but it's true, and I`m not brainwashed or anything, far from it. I never thought it could happen to me....maybe it was some message?

gray · Nov 3, 2003

Not really, just a realisation that I was crap at leading my life, and that there was someone who knew me better than myself

It's not really something I struggle with. I don't think "Oh man, if only I weren't a Christian, I could do this :stress:" It just comes naturally to want what's best for God.

Maybe you should ask God

I don't think you were brainwashed, but God showed you that He has power in this world, and that He's not just sitting there after sending the Bible. You seem to have been humbled by the experience, which is what God wants for all of us, and if your character did change to be more gentle etc, then maybe the incident had the desired effect.

Don't think of it "maybe i need another miraculous experience to be more aware of God", because it's not like that. It's not like a vaccination where you get boosters every few years. These things don't happen very often, and I understand that you were freaked out by the whole experience, but I'm glad you know it was from God, and that you're not trying to explain it by saying "i didn't get much sleep or food that day, so that's probably why".

Zizou · Nov 3, 2003

Yeah I can't give it such an explanation cos I know what I felt and it was the weirdest thing in the world.

Hey I'm not as humble now, I'm back to my old self after these years

I haven't confessed in eyars! It must be 5 years since my last confession so I'm a sinful person right now

gray · Nov 3, 2003

Okay, I don't mean to rip on Catholicism or anything, but I don't see why people should go and confess to a human their sins, in order to be forgiven.

IMO all you need to do is repent with your heart that you've sinned, and accept that Christ died to forgive your sins.

I've never been to confession in my life, but I'm forgiven

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