Ramadan Kareem!! (7 Viewers)

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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I came up with scientific articles. I was being rational. You on the other hand have come up with jibbrish and are now trying to label me anti-muslim to gain the upper hand in an argument you have so obviously lost.

i havent even taken a side in this argument, my contention is that one should speak in a matter of opinion not categorical fact as you do. Copying and pasting something off the internet doesnt constitute scientific data i on the other hand showed you something that categorically breaks any western notion of body capabilities(monk example) but i dont care to win or lose arguments especially with you in this instance.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Word. Do you have a link to the entire article?
I'm afraid not as I got it from PubMed. It's a reliable source for article abstracts though and as I'm not subscribed to those magazines (not even through uni) my best bet. I'd like to find the entire article myself as well.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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i havent even taken a side in this argument, my contention is that one should speak in a matter of opinion not categorical fact as you do. Copying and pasting something off the internet doesnt constitute scientific data i on the other hand showed you something that categorically breaks any western notion of body capabilities(monk example) but i dont care to win or lose arguments especially with you in this instance.
Yes.. and that's all swell, but the effect of the Ramadan has been researched time and time again. And the conclusions were always the same. So unless you are ready to throw western science away, and by God it's a big step, you'll just have to admit that it's not the right thing to do for a professional soccer player.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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DA! I know that, but he can also not fast the whole month (he needs to be fit in trainings as well) if he has to, and do in on summer, or winter break. He should respect the club for paying him all these money.
enough with this garbage of he should thank the club, he more than makes for it on the field and the books.

he's not begging he's earning it
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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is that why people follow religion? so that they get some special attention from the creator?
The reason why people follow religion is pretty acceptable IMO. People feel lonely and scared in this universe and feel reassured to "know" there is someone or something out there. Some may even gain some form of mental strength from it all. BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT FASTING DOES NOT AFFECT ATHLETIC PERFORMANCE!
 

Enron

Tickle Me
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Oct 11, 2005
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The problem is with the other players. I think Sissoko should be benched as he is not being a professional. If you allow him to start, you're basically saying it's acceptable to act unprofessionally.
It's quite a stretch to call the practice of Ramadan "unprofessional" especially if you understand religion. Momo is a muslim, he fasts, and because of his religion he thinks he's going to be 100% and he will give you his all even though it's isn't. The guy is attempting to balance religious belief with professional football. This is where the manager comes in. Fasting will slow Momo down especially when he isn't able to eat before the match, the manager knows this. It's the manager's job to know that during a mid day match against Catania you shouldn't start him and you probably don't need him either.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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Yes.. and that's all swell, but the effect of the Ramadan has been researched time and time again. And the conclusions were always the same. So unless you are ready to throw western science away, and by God it's a big step, you'll just have to admit that it's not the right thing to do for a professional soccer player.
see thats exactly the point it's not just black or white(please no juve references), i can recognize it for what it is along with its limitations. As for pronouncing myself on whether it's right or not, that's not up to me Momo is the only person to determine that.
 

Enron

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Oct 11, 2005
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I'm afraid not as I got it from PubMed. It's a reliable source for article abstracts though and as I'm not subscribed to those magazines (not even through uni) my best bet. I'd like to find the entire article myself as well.
It looked interesting enough from the abstract. I only have access to a few ecological journals.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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It's quite a stretch to call the practice of Ramadan "unprofessional" especially if you understand religion. Momo is a muslim, he fasts, and because of his religion he thinks he's going to be 100% and he will give you his all even though it's isn't. The guy is attempting to balance religious belief with professional football. This is where the manager comes in. Fasting will slow Momo down especially when he isn't able to eat before the match, the manager knows this. It's the manager's job to know that during a mid day match against Catania you shouldn't start him and you probably don't need him either.
So what's the deal when my religion is alcoholism? That's right, I'm an alcoholic. I won't stop drinking. This will dramatically affect my performance, but I'm still a professional?

No, one religion is socially accepted, another one isn't. It's all bollocks.
 

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