Ramadan Kareem!! (5 Viewers)

[Lawnchair Bes]

dont throw around words you dont understand

i am sure sissoko will be rewarded for all eternity by playing football with all his heros in heaven

 

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[Bjerknes]

"Nutrition is obviously an important aspect of any players game. The following, used at the Swindon Academy, will hopefully give you a further insight into this important subject.

Question: Why are carbohydrates important to an active footballer? Give examples of the percentage required in the diet and the foods high in carbohydrate.

The average person has about 2000 calories of stored carbohydrate. An overnight fast (8 to12hrs) and a low-carbohydrate diet can dramatically lower these stores. More importantly, a carbohydrate-rich diet can more than double them. The body's upper limit for carbohydrate storage equates to about 15 grams per kilogram (2.2lbs) of bodyweight. So an 80kg (175lb) person can potentially store up to 1200 grams of carbohydrate or 4800 calories worth of energy - all with just a few dietary modifications. Weight for weight carbohydrates contain the least amount of energy out of the three macronutrients. Yet they are the most important type of fuel to a soccer player. During short, intense bouts of exercise (like sprinting), carbohydrate is the only fuel capable of supplying the body with energy quickly enough. In the first few minutes of any activity, it is carbohydrate that almost exclusively meets energy demands. In addition, the ability to repeat a sprint at the end of a game to the same high level as at the start of the game relies, in part, on the body’s carbohydrate stores. The average Western Diet consists of a carbohydrate/fat/protein average of 46%/ 38%/ 16% whereas the ideal footballer ratios are 60%/ 25%/ 15%"

http://www.raf.mod.uk/raffootball/teamsanddisciplines/coaching_nutrition.cfm


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So if the player cannot eat from dawn till dusk, and combining the fact that he basically fasts during sleep as well, he will be extremely short on carbs. This cannot in any way be healthy for a footballer.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

i am sure sissoko will be rewarded for all eternity by playing football with all his heros in heaven

you didnt have to prove my point further

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

i am enjoy it as much as you

 

[GordoDeCentral]

"Nutrition is obviously an important aspect of any players game. The following, used at the Swindon Academy, will hopefully give you a further insight into this important subject.

Question: Why are carbohydrates important to an active footballer? Give examples of the percentage required in the diet and the foods high in carbohydrate.

The average person has about 2000 calories of stored carbohydrate. An overnight fast (8 to12hrs) and a low-carbohydrate diet can dramatically lower these stores. More importantly, a carbohydrate-rich diet can more than double them. The body's upper limit for carbohydrate storage equates to about 15 grams per kilogram (2.2lbs) of bodyweight. So an 80kg (175lb) person can potentially store up to 1200 grams of carbohydrate or 4800 calories worth of energy - all with just a few dietary modifications. Weight for weight carbohydrates contain the least amount of energy out of the three macronutrients. Yet they are the most important type of fuel to a soccer player. During short, intense bouts of exercise (like sprinting), carbohydrate is the only fuel capable of supplying the body with energy quickly enough. In the first few minutes of any activity, it is carbohydrate that almost exclusively meets energy demands. In addition, the ability to repeat a sprint at the end of a game to the same high level as at the start of the game relies, in part, on the body’s carbohydrate stores. The average Western Diet consists of a carbohydrate/fat/protein average of 46%/ 38%/ 16% whereas the ideal footballer ratios are 60%/ 25%/ 15%"

http://www.raf.mod.uk/raffootball/teamsanddisciplines/coaching_nutrition.cfm


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So if the player cannot eat from dawn till dusk, and combining the fact that he basically fasts during sleep as well, he will be extremely short on carbs. This cannot in any way be healthy for a footballer.

like i said your/his/her opinion

 

[Zaim]

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So if the player cannot eat from dawn till dusk, and combining the fact that he basically fasts during sleep as well, he will be extremely short on carbs. This cannot in any way be healthy for a footballer.

Everybody fasts during sleep

 

[Bjerknes]

Look, fine. It's his opinion. And if he can handle it, then more power to him.

But don't start making excuses for the player because of fasting as it's just ridiculous.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Look, fine. It's his opinion. And if he can handle it, then more power to him.

But don't start making excuses for the player because of fasting as it's just ridiculous.

i didnt even see the game, link up your commentary of it

 

[Zé Tahir]

Look, fine. It's his opinion. And if he can handle it, then more power to him.

But don't start making excuses for the player because of fasting as it's just ridiculous.

Agreed and if he's performing bad because he's fasting than he needs to stop.

 

[Bjerknes]

i didnt even see the game, link up your commentary of it

I missed the first 20 minutes of the match due to oversleeping, so I didn't write a report, but for the 40 I saw he didn't look like the same Sissoko.

 

[Geof]

I heared that Fatih Terim doesn't allow his players to fast when they are with the NT.

During Turkey-Belgium, two players where actually fasting, none of them were Turks.

 

[Seven]

This thing about "opinion" is ridiculous and is quite obviously only an argument used by religious lunatics. If Gazza gets drunk every night it's not his call, but if Sissoko refuses to eat that's just fine. Who are we to question Gazza's life? Perhaps his religion tells him to get drunk every night? It's not just Sissoko's decision. We pay him to be fit, we pay him to take care of his body.

Senor Canardo: it's not opinion, it's fact. Or as close as anyone in this world can come to fact. 99,999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of all people need food to play football at a professional level. Odds are Sissoko is one of them.

 

[Il Re]

i heard this same debate with some freinds of mine, but it was over nicolas anelka and his poor performance due to apparently fasting, it's hard to say, i remember freddie kanoute explained he was fasting, yet it didn't have too much of an impact on his playing, also kolo toure, so it can come down to the individual, i myself have played in football games while fasting and fought in amatuer boxing matches, i found it harder but i was still able to perform well, there could be other reasons for sissoko not plaiyng well, but fasting could be a factor

 

[Seven]

OBJECTIVE: Ramadan is a period of daylight abstention from liquid or solid nutrients. As sports continue to be scheduled, an understanding of the effects of Ramadan on Muslim athletes is warranted. DESIGN: Two Algerian professional soccer teams (55 men) were studied. Field tests of physical and soccer performance were collected before, at the end and 2 weeks after Ramadan in 2004. Players were queried on sleeping habits and personal perception of training and match performance. SETTING: Field setting at club training ground. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: Performance on fitness and skill tests. RESULTS: Performance declined significantly (p<0.05) for speed, agility, dribbling speed and endurance, and most stayed low after the conclusion of Ramadan. Nearly 70% of the players thought that their training and performance were adversely affected during the fast. CONCLUSIONS: The phase shift of food intake and disruption of sleep patterns affect actual and perceived physical performance. Islamic athletes need to explore strategies that will maximise performance during Ramadan.

This might interest some of you. And I still don't care about monks who are in a completely different situation doing things that aren't even remotely similar.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

This thing about "opinion" is ridiculous and is quite obviously only an argument used by religious lunatics. If Gazza gets drunk every night it's not his call, but if Sissoko refuses to eat that's just fine. Who are we to question Gazza's life? Perhaps his religion tells him to get drunk every night? It's not just Sissoko's decision. We pay him to be fit, we pay him to take care of his body.

Senor Canardo: it's not opinion, it's fact. Or as close as anyone in this world can come to fact. 99,999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of all people need food to play football at a professional level. Odds are Sissoko is one of them.

what a narrow and superficial view, maybe Sissoko's biggest asset is his character which he cultivated through acts of sacrifice such as this one; let's assume for a second that yes it does impede his performance this one month but if it meant he d be the dominating titan of midfield he is the rest of the year it's not worth it?

oh and btw you nor i pay him, i would contend not even juventus. he earned/earns it if not juventus someone else will: worth

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

p doesn't lie, especially when lower than 0.05

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

1) Iam damn right

2) Ofcourse i know what iam talkin about cuz i did a research paper on the effect of fasting on health and psyhological well being

3) Shush.Leave it to the experts

No, you aren't, Andy represents this at the end of this post.

no no Burke is right...drunks are never wrong

Exactly.

Travelers may break the fast temporarily during their travel only and make up for it in later days, a day for a day.

probably he wasn't fasting at match day.

Okay, well I am never going to fast, then fast for the last 5 years of my life. Why not do that?

Rational or not it remains opinion, no one brought any factual evidence to this.

http://blog.vortexdna.com/the-himalayan-monks-blood-is-boiling/

Andy does later.....

it has everything to do with it. I thought you d get it without me having to explain. And please stop talking with certainty as we both know there no way of knowing.

No, there is, read Andy's post, it's precise and states fact over opinion.

Come on, you think it's professional to harm your performance while being paid to be in top notch condition for a team effort? Say what you will, but Sissoko played a bad game yesterday. People used the fact that he was "fasting" as an excuse. If this is true, I'm sorry, but that's not professional behavior with all due respect. If he has to fast in the afternoon due to his religious beliefs, that's fine, but make sure the manager knows it.

Word...

once again present the data pertaining to this and we re all ears

Andy does, later in this post....

He shouldn't fast at all? Let the man do what he feels is right. Who are you to judge him? You might have a different opinion, but in the end it's his decision and his belief. For many people there's nothing more important then religion. You might think it's dumb and not logical, but that's the way it is.

that doesnt stop people from pointing out their irrationality

Word.

dont throw around words you dont understand

Don't be a cunt...

And that's what it all comes down to.


After years and years of fasting a person comes to learn his or her limits. I used to fast when I played football but I won't lift weights while I'm fasting, simply because I know I can withstand the thirst of the former but not the latter. Strange as that may sound, that's just how it is for me.

Sissoko might be able to play football while he's fasting because he's done it from time he was kicking it with his boys in Mali, who knows. We can't say anything unless he himself or the Juventus medical staff find/admit he has been performing bad due to fasting.

OHHHHH, so you drastically changed the way you exercised daily so that you COULD get through the day? So if that was your job, to do it all to the best of your ability, and it was your career, would you not expect to be fined? 100% at all times, that's not only the code of professionals, but especially the code of professional athletes.

To intentionally change one's ways just to avoid something is selling the team short.

Look, if he can fast and still be bad ass, that's cool. But IF, he couldn't lift weights and he played over some guy who actually did all the work required, but didn't even make the bench, you tell me where the problem lies.

i am sure sissoko will be rewarded for all eternity by playing football with all his heros in heaven

And with all those "virgins."

"Nutrition is obviously an important aspect of any players game. The following, used at the Swindon Academy, will hopefully give you a further insight into this important subject.

Question: Why are carbohydrates important to an active footballer? Give examples of the percentage required in the diet and the foods high in carbohydrate.

The average person has about 2000 calories of stored carbohydrate. An overnight fast (8 to12hrs) and a low-carbohydrate diet can dramatically lower these stores. More importantly, a carbohydrate-rich diet can more than double them. The body's upper limit for carbohydrate storage equates to about 15 grams per kilogram (2.2lbs) of bodyweight. So an 80kg (175lb) person can potentially store up to 1200 grams of carbohydrate or 4800 calories worth of energy - all with just a few dietary modifications. Weight for weight carbohydrates contain the least amount of energy out of the three macronutrients. Yet they are the most important type of fuel to a soccer player. During short, intense bouts of exercise (like sprinting), carbohydrate is the only fuel capable of supplying the body with energy quickly enough. In the first few minutes of any activity, it is carbohydrate that almost exclusively meets energy demands. In addition, the ability to repeat a sprint at the end of a game to the same high level as at the start of the game relies, in part, on the body’s carbohydrate stores. The average Western Diet consists of a carbohydrate/fat/protein average of 46%/ 38%/ 16% whereas the ideal footballer ratios are 60%/ 25%/ 15%"

http://www.raf.mod.uk/raffootball/teamsanddisciplines/coaching_nutrition.cfm


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So if the player cannot eat from dawn till dusk, and combining the fact that he basically fasts during sleep as well, he will be extremely short on carbs. This cannot in any way be healthy for a footballer.

BLOOM, OWNED!

 

[IlDivinCodino]

For all you know it, he might not even be fasting. Just some media messing that is.

Thing is, I doubt the eating part is so important. He can have all the food he wants as soon as he breaks fast. Eat more than usual. Grab some energy drinks and make up for all the calories he lost during his fast.

The concerning area would have to be dehydration.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

I heared that Fatih Terim doesn't allow his players to fast when they are with the NT.

See, because he knows that if they do, they are going to suck balls. If there was no problem with fasting, then he would allow it.

 

[Seven]

what a narrow and superficial view, maybe Sissoko's biggest asset is his character which he cultivated through acts of sacrifice such as this one; let's assume for a second that yes it does impede his performance this one month but if it meant he d be the dominating titan of midfield he is the rest of the year it's not worth it?

oh and btw you nor i pay him, i would contend not even juventus. he earned/earns it if not juventus someone else will: worth

Oh, but I'm a big fan of his and will stay so regardless of all this stuff. I just don't think he should play while being an ass. Marchisio does take care of his body these days, so he deserves to play ahead of Sissoko. Imagine Gazza showing up drunk right before the game. Would you play him?

The real issue here is the FACT muslims have a hard time being the least bit rational when it comes to their religion. Being an alcoholic or fasting is the same bloody thing if you look at it from a team perspective. Juventus do not have to accept Sissoko's behaviour because it's his religion. I could found my own bloody religion and do just about everything I would like to and get away with it if that principle were to be okay.