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all the trophies he has won in his career was just pure luck
he really isn't any better then Zac
oh ffs, cut the crap he is a great manager who's having a poor year like every coach who has ever walked the pitch
he wouldn't even consider us if we came for him last year, that's 10 months ago
you think he got alzheimer over this period?
he wasn't my first choice but he is the best available right now
he really isn't any better then Zac
oh ffs, cut the crap he is a great manager who's having a poor year like every coach who has ever walked the pitch
he wouldn't even consider us if we came for him last year, that's 10 months ago
you think he got alzheimer over this period?
he wasn't my first choice but he is the best available right now
all the trophies he has won in his career was just pure luck
he really isn't any better then Zac
oh ffs, cut the crap he is a great manager who's having a poor year like every coach who has ever walked the pitch
he wouldn't even consider us if we came for him last year, that's 10 months ago
you think he got alzheimer over this period?
he wasn't my first choice but he is the best available right now
he really isn't any better then Zac
oh ffs, cut the crap he is a great manager who's having a poor year like every coach who has ever walked the pitch
he wouldn't even consider us if we came for him last year, that's 10 months ago
you think he got alzheimer over this period?
he wasn't my first choice but he is the best available right now
> His teams have never played good football (You can't count Xabi long ball to Gerrard / Torres)
> He is a certified whinger, if it is not going his way he spits his dummy out, be it in an often funny way (see his Bolton / Blackburn comments)
> He is useless at playing the market.
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> Does have the knack of jamming the best out of world class players every so often.
For me he does not warrent the huge wage bill he will bring for himself and his plerthora of back room staff.
If we do get him though, he will get my full support as he 'could' lead Juve to a much brighter future than that offered by the current clowns.
all the trophies he has won in his career was just pure luck
he really isn't any better then Zac
oh ffs, cut the crap he is a great manager who's having a poor year like every coach who has ever walked the pitch
he wouldn't even consider us if we came for him last year, that's 10 months ago
you think he got alzheimer over this period?
he wasn't my first choice but he is the best available right now
he really isn't any better then Zac
oh ffs, cut the crap he is a great manager who's having a poor year like every coach who has ever walked the pitch
he wouldn't even consider us if we came for him last year, that's 10 months ago
you think he got alzheimer over this period?
he wasn't my first choice but he is the best available right now
That is absolute rubbish, sorry but it is. Valencia played outstanding football. And while Liverpool have been poor this season they also played some incredible football last season and seasons before, they were battering everyone at the end of last season, Man Utd, Real Madrid, Villa, scored 4 away to Chelsea. Its not a "who plays the best football" business anyway, its a result business, Arsenal's so called amazing football is getting them nowhere.
Is there a manager in the world that isn't? Mourinho and Ferguson are ridiculous for it and they're arguably the two best around. They all do it. Wenger, Mourinho, Ferguson, Benitez. The lot.
I wouldnt say useless, I'd say hit and miss which again applies to pretty much every manager out there. Ferguson has got it wrong with Berbatov £30m, Veron £30m, Anderson £18m etc etc. Mourinho with Quaresma and Mancini, Muntari is rubbish aswell. No one gets it right all the time.
Is there a manager in the world that isn't? Mourinho and Ferguson are ridiculous for it and they're arguably the two best around. They all do it. Wenger, Mourinho, Ferguson, Benitez. The lot.
I wouldnt say useless, I'd say hit and miss which again applies to pretty much every manager out there. Ferguson has got it wrong with Berbatov £30m, Veron £30m, Anderson £18m etc etc. Mourinho with Quaresma and Mancini, Muntari is rubbish aswell. No one gets it right all the time.
who would be the alternative? Blanc? he must be really crap according to your logic when we look at the standings in France
Allegri? do we really want another huge gamble
Capello? he won't leave England till after the WC and besides I'm sure DP would love to see him coming
I would like Pellegrini but we would have to wait and see what happens at Real and after that circus he would want a holliday first
there really aren't that many viable opportunities around right now
Rafa sounds good enough for me, he's definetly an upgrade after Ciro and Zac
Allegri? do we really want another huge gamble
Capello? he won't leave England till after the WC and besides I'm sure DP would love to see him coming
I would like Pellegrini but we would have to wait and see what happens at Real and after that circus he would want a holliday first
there really aren't that many viable opportunities around right now
Rafa sounds good enough for me, he's definetly an upgrade after Ciro and Zac
Agree with that. I'm not sure what people are expecting, we wont be getting Alex Ferguson, Wenger or Capello so what else is out there? Mourinho obviously manages our rivals and wouldnt be welcome here so what are we left with? Not much else but there is a man out there who has won the champions league, won the fa cup, won the uefa cup and won the spanish league twice (And not with the financial power or Real or Barca).
I'm struggling to see the problem people have with it.
I'm struggling to see the problem people have with it.
I doubt Balague would have slagged off Rafa, he thinks the sun shines out of his arse, they're close and he's even written a book on him. His Valencia team werent all out attack or anything but I think they played some sensational, controlled football with Baraja, Aimar, Vicente, Rufete and others. I remember watching them rip Liverpool apart twice, it wouldnt surprise me if that stuck in their mind and helped them go for him.
He's not great in the market but theres plenty of good, Torres and Alonso like you mention, Mascherano, Reina is one of the best goalies around, Arbeloa was 2.5m, signed as a nobody and is now a Real Madrid and Spain regular, Agger is very good, Benayoun, Skrtel, Sissoko was outstanding for them till that eye injury etc etc. And despite all the money he's spent theyve recouped a hell of a lot too, and he's only been allowed to spend what he's brought in on sales for 18months now, the owners are ruining that club.
He's far from perfect but I think he's the best candidate out there.
He's not great in the market but theres plenty of good, Torres and Alonso like you mention, Mascherano, Reina is one of the best goalies around, Arbeloa was 2.5m, signed as a nobody and is now a Real Madrid and Spain regular, Agger is very good, Benayoun, Skrtel, Sissoko was outstanding for them till that eye injury etc etc. And despite all the money he's spent theyve recouped a hell of a lot too, and he's only been allowed to spend what he's brought in on sales for 18months now, the owners are ruining that club.
He's far from perfect but I think he's the best candidate out there.
Rafa has bought nearly 80 players in his reign at Liverpool, which means his average spending a single player is lower than other top teams, and this also explains his larger hit and miss ratio. Players in the 7-10M range just have a greater chance of missing.
If we get him, the board should make sure we go for better quality instead of having a huge squad.
And Trigger is absolutely right. Most ppl in here want Prandelli, Blanc or Allegri (assuming that Capello, Hiddink and the likes are not in considereation), they ALL have had very mediocre seasons. Bordeaux started off well, but have completely lost momentum. Allegri and Prandelli well we all know where they are.
I hope he comes, but I also hope that he does not get the full transfer responsebility.
If we get him, the board should make sure we go for better quality instead of having a huge squad.
And Trigger is absolutely right. Most ppl in here want Prandelli, Blanc or Allegri (assuming that Capello, Hiddink and the likes are not in considereation), they ALL have had very mediocre seasons. Bordeaux started off well, but have completely lost momentum. Allegri and Prandelli well we all know where they are.
I hope he comes, but I also hope that he does not get the full transfer responsebility.
Some good points raised there, well apart from Momo being outstanding, he was exactly as he is now. A running tackling machine who cannot pass for chips.
After reading this post, I think the final line summarises the problem.
In hindsight, if we cannot get Prandelli or Pellegrini, then maybe Rafa (as much as I believe that he is not a truely world class choice) is a fair target in this current climate.
After reading this post, I think the final line summarises the problem.
In hindsight, if we cannot get Prandelli or Pellegrini, then maybe Rafa (as much as I believe that he is not a truely world class choice) is a fair target in this current climate.
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