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Lapa

FLY, EAGLES FLY
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Do you clown know that when Finland was in a war against Russia, we lost 100,000 men but Russia lost 1,000,000? So those fuckers won't save you from anything. :lol:

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And btw, RUS, I have nothing against you dude, but do they teach you that in school?
 

Alex-444

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Sep 5, 2005
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@Alex-444

Do you clown know that when Finland was in a war against Russia, we lost 100,000 men but Russia lost 1,000,000? So those fuckers won't save you from anything. :lol:

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And btw, RUS, I have nothing against you dude, but do they teach you that in school?
that's it
Russian saved half of Europe
You would now sucks grandson of Hitler finish steel
 

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
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that's it
Russian saved half of Europe
You would now sucks grandson of Hitler finish steel
Yeah, now. Russia was part of it or The Soviet was. Great Britain and the USA is as much the saviours of Europe - especially when you think what they did to the countries they liberated. Iron Curtain anyone? But did you know that Stalin signed a peace deal with Hitler and until Hitler started attacking Soviet interest, Soviet couldn't have cared less about Europe.

Do I then need to tell what the Soviet Union did to Hungary in 1956 or in 1968 in Czechoslovakia?

All in all the Soviet Union was a terrible Stalinistic Regime which killed millions upon millions of their own citizen.
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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Oh and I completely agree with Alex that far too much praise is given to the Americans and too little to the Russians for how WW2 ended favorably for "us" in Western Europe. It's not a black and white case though, since the Americans did send regular supplies to the massive Russian army even before the yanks got involved in the war, but the main load was on the Russians.
 

Alex-444

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Sep 5, 2005
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Yeah, now. Russia was part of it or The Soviet was. Great Britain and the USA is as much the saviours of Europe - especially when you think what they did to the countries they liberated. Iron Curtain anyone? But did you know that Stalin signed a peace deal with Hitler and until Hitler started attacking Soviet interest, Soviet couldn't have cared less about Europe.

Do I then need to tell what the Soviet Union did to Hungary in 1956 or in 1968 in Czechoslovakia?

All in all the Soviet Union was a terrible Stalinistic Regime which killed millions upon millions of their own citizen.
Britain would not have intervened simply she was threatened
States only for
economic needs help
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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Yeah, now. Russia was part of it or The Soviet was. Great Britain and the USA is as much the saviours of Europe - especially when you think what they did to the countries the liberated. Iron Curtain anyone? But did you know that Stalin signed a peace deal with Hitler and until Hitler started attacking Soviet interest, Soviet couldn't have cared less about Europe.

Do I then need to tell what the Soviet Union did to Hungary in 1956 or in 1968 in Czechoslovakia.

All in all the Soviet Union was a terrible Stalinistic Regime which killed millions upon millions of their own citizen.
As much saviors of Europe? Get the fuck out with that seriously. The groundwork for what the US and Britain could do after WW2 was payed for with Russian blood and sacrifice - what good would the Marshal help have been without that?

Oh, and I'm still of the conviction that the Soviet Union never really got a fair chance to compete, and therefore had to become such an authoritarian society. Lets not forget the economic factor of it all, either. Soviet industry and infrastructure was virtually not there after WWII, whereas the US economy benefited greatly from it. The US were responsible for half the worlds total GNP in 48 and were never open for economic collaboration with the Soviets.

If blame is passed on France and England for the situation in post WW1 Germany, which inevitably led to Hitlers rise in the 30's, then the US is equally to blame for the situation in the Soviet Union and all the horrors that brought with it.
 

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
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Britain would not have intervened simply she was threatened
States only for ekonomichiskih soobroozheny helped
And the rest I wrote care to respond to that?

What about the countries The Soviet Union reached first ie. the Iron Curtain that became? What about the killings of millions of their own citizens? What about the invasions of Hungary and Czechoslovakia?
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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And the rest I wrote care to respond to that?

What about the countries The Soviet Union reached first? What about the killings of millions of their own citizens? What the invasions of Hungary and Czechoslovakia?
Is this a purely Soviet characteristic or is it merely the foundation upon which both poles operated during the Cold War?
 

Alex-444

Senior Member
Sep 5, 2005
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And the rest I wrote care to respond to that?

What about the countries The Soviet Union reached first ie. the Iron Curtain that became? What about the killings of millions of their own citizens? What about the invasions of Hungary and Czechoslovakia?
I fuck on the regime
Russia has saved your ass
if Hitler had won
all would have been alive?
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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I fuck on the regime
Russia has saved your ass
Acting positively for the good of Europe during WWII, after USSR got provoked, does not justify the aftermath in any way. There are lots of factors to it, none of them as black and white as we all like to paint them.
 
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