Qatar's bid for hosting WC 2022 (1 Viewer)

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Now you guys are just trying to find something to complain about (I'm looking at you Jay), obviously Qatar will not be able to host the confed cup in the summer either, thats out of the question. They're already going to disrupt the european football schedule in 2022, theres absolutely no way that they'll disrupt the schedules in the preceding year as well, that will cause a revolt.

If only it were possible not to host the World Cup in Qatar. It would make life so much easier.

Oh wait.
 

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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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Would you consider any location for the WC in the Middle East?

After all, if you look at the transfer money from clubs in the past several years, most of it seems to have come from there.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Would you consider any location for the WC in the Middle East?

After all, if you look at the transfer money from clubs in the past several years, most of it seems to have come from there.
I don't care where it's played as long as:

- the atmospheric conditions allow football
- human rights are guaranteed as much as possible.

For that last reason I also wouldn't like Russia as an organising nation for example, even if the atmospheric conditions are okay.
 

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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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I don't care where it's played as long as:

- the atmospheric conditions allow football
- human rights are guaranteed as much as possible.

For that last reason I also wouldn't like Russia as an organising nation for example, even if the atmospheric conditions are okay.
Or Chile '62 or Argentina '78 for that matter.
 

Ocelot

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Jul 13, 2013
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I don't care where it's played as long as:

- the atmospheric conditions allow football
- human rights are guaranteed as much as possible.

For that last reason I also wouldn't like Russia as an organising nation for example, even if the atmospheric conditions are okay.
The problem is that it's rather hard to decide where exactly to draw the line concerning your human rights issue.

I mean, would China be okay? Thailand? Most African countries are governed somewhat autocratic. There are plenty of human rights violations in Brazil if you wanted to be strict about it. And of course every single country in the world violates human rights in some way, no matter how minor. Often that's not even a problem of course for the hosting of an event such as the WC, but it is borderline impossible to really define regulations in this respect.

About Qatar, I defenitely agree though.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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We should as this was his MAAAAIIIN argument. So why Conf cup is different, it has all the same ingridietns as the WC. @Fred any thoughts why conf cup should not be played there?
It would be great if it were possible to host the two tournaments in Qatar, but unfortunately it would just be unrealistic to expect a fifa international tournament to be organised in January twice.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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The problem is that it's rather hard to decide where exactly to draw the line concerning your human rights issue.

I mean, would China be okay? Thailand? Most African countries are governed somewhat autocratic. There are plenty of human rights violations in Brazil if you wanted to be strict about it. And of course every single country in the world violates human rights in some way, no matter how minor. Often that's not even a problem of course for the hosting of an event such as the WC, but it is borderline impossible to really define regulations in this respect.

About Qatar, I defenitely agree though.

It's why I said as much as possible. But I think that the lowest standard would be not violating human rights in order to be able to organize the tournament in the first place. Don't use slaves to build stadiums.

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I find that absolutely irrelevant.
Life is grand in Lalaland!
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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It's why I said as much as possible. But I think that the lowest standard would be not violating human rights in order to be able to organize the tournament in the first place. Don't use slaves to build stadiums.

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Life is grand in Lalaland!
Actually if you opened your eyes you'd notice that you're the one in lalaland. I mean afterall it is going to be hosted in Qatar and it will be in december/january.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Actually if you opened your eyes you'd notice that you're the one in lalaland. I mean afterall it is going to be hosted in Qatar and it will be in december/january.
It's not. And of course it will be hosted in December. Because the initial idea proposed by the Qatari's was INSANE.
 

Ocelot

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Jul 13, 2013
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I find that absolutely irrelevant.
That's where I disagree.

It's not that this figure should mean that every single tournament has to conform to the European schedule, but I'd argue for the broad majority of seasons to be organised in such a way. If 75% of players, + a couple more from non-European leagues playing with a similar schedule are having parts of their season played in winter, it's only fair, and common sense, to arrange it in a way befitting these schedules.
 

Raz

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Nov 20, 2005
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It would be great if it were possible to host the two tournaments in Qatar, but unfortunately it would just be unrealistic to expect a fifa international tournament to be organised in January twice.
You find the problem here Fifa? That fifa would find this unrealistic? You always seemed and still seem like a serious smart dude, but c'mon... you cannot be serious here about that?

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Maybe we can make it like cricket and rugby and just carry on with the league through tournaments and internationals minus international players...lol.
Why not. Imagine all the youth, someones dream come true. Coman playing for a whole month! :D
 

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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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That's where I disagree.

It's not that this figure should mean that every single tournament has to conform to the European schedule, but I'd argue for the broad majority of seasons to be organised in such a way. If 75% of players, + a couple more from non-European leagues playing with a similar schedule are having parts of their season played in winter, it's only fair, and common sense, to arrange it in a way befitting these schedules.
Actually, your argument would be that it would be fair to organize 75% of the tournaments to accommodate the schedules of 75% of the players. The other 25%? All bets are off.
 

Ocelot

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Jul 13, 2013
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Actually, your argument would be that it would be fair to organize 75% of the tournaments to accommodate the schedules of 75% of the players. The other 25%? All bets are off.
Though a portion of the remaining 25% still have a similar schedule as the Europeans :D

And I wouldn't base it completely on players. What about regions where there are a lot of football fans, but not many good players playing there? It would be unfair as well imo to just strip them of the right to host a tournament forever just because the climate doesn't confirm to European (+others) schedules.

I'd just find a bit of variation fair. A winter WC every 6-7th WC would be alright, the figure just being an aproximate number of course.
 

Raz

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Nov 20, 2005
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Though a portion of the remaining 25% still have a similar schedule as the Europeans :D

And I wouldn't base it completely on players. What about regions where there are a lot of football fans, but not many good players playing there? It would be unfair as well imo to just strip them of the right to host a tournament forever just because the climate doesn't confirm to European (+others) schedules.

I'd just find a bit of variation fair. A winter WC every 6-7th WC would be alright, the figure just being an aproximate number of course.
Best thing we could do is do it every other season, spring and and autum included, gotta look out for the folks that can only get vacation timo on those those times, very important stuff. And change fifa logo to rainbow too.

That shit is important, not the most convinient and logic thing but who cares.
 

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