Primavera 2012-13 (+ Allievi Nazionali & others) (12 Viewers)

[oldlady87]

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[Lo-Pan]

Drew the league derby 1-1...Padovan grabbed the goal.

 

[PedroFlu]

thanks for the info

Which players you think have the greatest upside right now in Primavera? Apart from those loaned out.

Branescu I don't really believe in him...

Some say Untersee is a Litch-like RWB or RB, solid. Laursen a good LWB. Rugani one of the greatest prospects in Italy at CB. Mattiello a great 17yr old talented AM. Schiavone a leader and talented deeplying playmaker. Kabashi a box to box MF. Beltrame perhaps the greatest talent there. And Padovan maybe an Immobile-type hardworking poacher.

Of the players loaned out, some promising players are Gabriel Appelt and Buoy, they were playing regularly and well till they got some serious injuries (Pro Vercelli and Brescia)

Spinazzola and mainly De Silvestro, deemed to be good youngsters, are not having a remarkable season (Empoli and Pro Vercelli - serie B)

Chibsah (DM) and Boakye seem to be 2 promising players, having a very good season at Sassuolo (Serie B leaders). Fausto Rossi is playing regularly at Brescia.

From Lega Pro there is one promising player, Matteo Liviero, LB, who is more than ready to step up.

Masi was doing well for Pro Vercelli, now he's at Ternana.

Do you agree with this? How about other younger players in Juventus's youth setup?

 

[Mark]

Of the thousands and thousands of keepers we got, Leali will be he one taking Gigi's place IMO but watch out for Audero.

I think Rugani could have a better career than Masi but it remains to be seen. Mag could turn out good. Untersse will be co-owned with Samp in the Poli deal. I like what I saw from him during training and some Primavera games.

We're also stacked at mid like the big club. Cavion, Kabashi, Sakor, Cevallos, Schiavone...

Beltrame will rocks and Padovan can put it in the net. I liked Ceria on the left. We saw what Lanini can do and expect better from Bonatini.

Canizares with the Allievi could turn out good. Same with Otin but we don't hear much about these kids. We got a couple Greeks over there too and Hromada that need more attention.

Udoh and Kean could be our Balotellis.

 

[PedroFlu]

I've done some research at vecchia signora.

Juve bought a lot of 16/17 yr old youngsters from Europe allover. They took some time do mesh well.

Promising players like Hromada (CM), Canizares (Spanish CB), Hector Otin (Spanish CF), Albert Roussos (Greek CM) are taking sometime to mesh and adapt.

But now the Allevi are starting to win games. Italians say that the biggest promising players at this age who are effectively playing are:

GK - Emil Audero - Italian - looks like a very bright talent;

CM: Sarkor - just explained by Lo-Pan

Forwards: Gabriele Moncini - young poacher, team captain, Italy U17 starter;

Clemenza - Italian 17yr old skilled, quick, left footed striker;

Tasios Donis - Greek 17yr old forward

Other young players brought who are considered to be good promising players who haven't been a play yet are Canizares, Hector Otin, Roussos, Hromada

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Of the thousands and thousands of keepers we got, Leali will be he one taking Gigi's place IMO but watch out for Audero.

I think Rugani could have a better career than Masi but it remains to be seen. Mag could turn out good. Untersse will be co-owned with Samp in the Poli deal. I like what I saw from him during training and some Primavera games.

We're also stacked at mid like the big club. Cavion, Kabashi, Sakor, Cevallos, Schiavone...

Beltrame will rocks and Padovan can put it in the net. I liked Ceria on the left. We saw what Lanini can do and expect better from Bonatini.

Canizares with the Allievi could turn out good. Same with Otin but we don't hear much about these kids. We got a couple Greeks over there too and Hromada that need more attention.

Udoh and Kean could be our Balotellis.

Thanks for the post.

Is the Poli deal really going to take place?

 

[Deep C]

Really hope Laursen develops well. Really rate his talent and it would be awesome with a good natural LWB for that 3-5-2 in the future.

Also, how awesome would it be if, 6-7 years from now, we line up with Leali; Sørensen, Rugani, Masi; Untersee, Laursen at the back

 

[Mark]

I've done some research at vecchia signora.

Juve bought a lot of 16/17 yr old youngsters from Europe allover. They took some time do mesh well.

Promising players like Hromada (CM), Canizares (Spanish CB), Hector Otin (Spanish CF), Albert Roussos (Greek CM) are taking sometime to mesh and adapt.

But now the Allevi are starting to win games. Italians say that the biggest promising players at this age who are effectively playing are:

GK - Emil Audero - Italian - looks like a very bright talent;

CM: Sarkor - just explained by Lo-Pan

Forwards: Gabriele Moncini - young poacher, team captain, Italy U17 starter;

Clemenza - Italian 17yr old skilled, quick, left footed striker;

Tasios Donis - Greek 17yr old forward

Other young players brought who are considered to be good promising players who haven't been a play yet are Canizares, Hector Otin, Roussos, Hromada

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Thanks for the post.

Is the Poli deal really going to take place?

I think it will. Kind of like we were supposed to get Peluso in the summer but we didn't get rid of Ziegler in time to the deal was postponed.

 

[PedroFlu]

I think it will. Kind of like we were supposed to get Peluso in the summer but we didn't get rid of Ziegler in time to the deal was postponed.

Well.. as long as it's not expensive.. He'd be a better backup than Padoin.

We also need a good talented young AM backup, to fight Giaccherini for playing time.

 

[Lo-Pan]

thanks for the info

Which players you think have the greatest upside right now in Primavera? Apart from those loaned out.

Branescu I don't really believe in him...

Some say Untersee is a Litch-like RWB or RB, solid. Laursen a good LWB. Rugani one of the greatest prospects in Italy at CB. Mattiello a great 17yr old talented AM. Schiavone a leader and talented deeplying playmaker. Kabashi a box to box MF. Beltrame perhaps the greatest talent there. And Padovan maybe an Immobile-type hardworking poacher.

Of the players loaned out, some promising players are Gabriel Appelt and Buoy, they were playing regularly and well till they got some serious injuries (Pro Vercelli and Brescia)

Spinazzola and mainly De Silvestro, deemed to be good youngsters, are not having a remarkable season (Empoli and Pro Vercelli - serie B)

Chibsah (DM) and Boakye seem to be 2 promising players, having a very good season at Sassuolo (Serie B leaders). Fausto Rossi is playing regularly at Brescia.

From Lega Pro there is one promising player, Matteo Liviero, LB, who is more than ready to step up.

Masi was doing well for Pro Vercelli, now he's at Ternana.

Do you agree with this? How about other younger players in Juventus's youth setup?

Of the thousands and thousands of keepers we got, Leali will be he one taking Gigi's place IMO but watch out for Audero.

I think Rugani could have a better career than Masi but it remains to be seen. Mag could turn out good. Untersse will be co-owned with Samp in the Poli deal. I like what I saw from him during training and some Primavera games.

We're also stacked at mid like the big club. Cavion, Kabashi, Sakor, Cevallos, Schiavone...

Beltrame will rocks and Padovan can put it in the net. I liked Ceria on the left. We saw what Lanini can do and expect better from Bonatini.

Canizares with the Allievi could turn out good. Same with Otin but we don't hear much about these kids. We got a couple Greeks over there too and Hromada that need more attention.

Udoh and Kean could be our Balotellis.

It is very hard to gauge anything but potential until the players have left the womb and taken their first few steps under their own steam. Of the youth teams, presently worth keeping an eye on are those you mentioned...Leali, above all others has confirmed his potential this season, owning his position between the sticks for Lanciano and regularly performing brilliantly. Masi has now worked his way, finally, into the Ternana first Xi and we must hope he continues this until the end of the season, and does well enough to maybe earn a loan to a Serie A club. Same must be said of Boakye, who we only half own and who may well be used as a makeweight vis-a-vis our interest in Muriel. Gabriel returned to the first team squad a few weeks back and is now once again a major part of the Vercelli midfield. Buoy's season has been comparably curtailed to injury as with Appelt, and to a lesser degree Masi. Beltrame will definitely head out on loan in the summer and then we will be able to form a better idea of how far he could go. Magnusson is also worth mentioning. cevallos has a month or two to adjust to the club and culture and he also will move in the Summer, ideally to a Serie A club, but more likely to a decent Serie B club. Then there is Bonatini...whose progress has been stunted somewhat by the more developed Padovan who plays in a very similar role (prima punta). The brazilian should be loaned out also.

Sakor interests me the most out of our younger players. Like Leali, he seems to be punching well above his weight. However, I doubt he will be going anywhere next Summer, more likely groomed for a full season as the midfield pivot of our primavera. he has time on his side...

I wouldn't bypass Kabashi or Pepic. The Albanian is very highly thought of in his homeland and is improving month by month for Baroni. Pepic may need a little longer to find his feet, but comes with a solid pedigree of experience already under his belt...

i wouldn't expect much of Chibsah. De silvestro is doing OK, but yes, perhaps needs a different club, the same can be said of Spinazzola.

 

[PedroFlu]

It is very hard to gauge anything but potential until the players have left the womb and taken their first few steps under their own steam. Of the youth teams, presently worth keeping an eye on are those you mentioned...Leali, above all others has confirmed his potential this season, owning his position between the sticks for Lanciano and regularly performing brilliantly. Masi has now worked his way, finally, into the Ternana first Xi and we must hope he continues this until the end of the season, and does well enough to maybe earn a loan to a Serie A club. Same must be said of Boakye, who we only half own and who may well be used as a makeweight vis-a-vis our interest in Muriel. Gabriel returned to the first team squad a few weeks back and is now once again a major part of the Vercelli midfield. Buoy's season has been comparably curtailed to injury as with Appelt, and to a lesser degree Masi. Beltrame will definitely head out on loan in the summer and then we will be able to form a better idea of how far he could go. Magnusson is also worth mentioning. cevallos has a month or two to adjust to the club and culture and he also will move in the Summer, ideally to a Serie A club, but more likely to a decent Serie B club. Then there is Bonatini...whose progress has been stunted somewhat by the more developed Padovan who plays in a very similar role (prima punta). The brazilian should be loaned out also.

Sakor interests me the most out of our younger players. Like Leali, he seems to be punching well above his weight. However, I doubt he will be going anywhere next Summer, more likely groomed for a full season as the midfield pivot of our primavera. he has time on his side...

I wouldn't bypass Kabashi or Pepic. The Albanian is very highly thought of in his homeland and is improving month by month for Baroni. Pepic may need a little longer to find his feet, but comes with a solid pedigree of experience already under his belt...

i wouldn't expect much of Chibsah. De silvestro is doing OK, but yes, perhaps needs a different club, the same can be said of Spinazzola.

Cheers

 

[frick]

It's matchday, motherfuckers!

 

[Mark]

Probable lineups:

JUVENTUS (3-5-2): Branescu; Untersee, Magnusson, Rugani; Ruggiero, Cavion, Sakor, Gerbaudo, Laursen; Beltrame, Padovan. Coach. Baroni

napoli(4-3-3): Crispino; Guardiglio, Celiento, Lasicki, Nicolao; Palma, Radosevic, Fornito; Insigne, Novothny, Tutino. Coach. Saurini

Referee: Ghersini from Genova

Spoiler

http://www.calcion.tv/si24.htm

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Probable lineups:

JUVENTUS (3-5-2): Branescu; Untersee, Magnusson, Rugani; Ruggiero, Cavion, Sakor, Gerbaudo, Laursen; Beltrame, Padovan. Coach. Baroni

napoli(4-3-3): Crispino; Guardiglio, Celiento, Lasicki, Nicolao; Palma, Radosevic, Fornito; Insigne, Novothny, Tutino. Coach. Saurini

Referee: Ghersini from Genova

Insigne? They're really desperate to defeat us in some competition.

 

[Mark]

His bro.

 

[PedroFlu]

Cavion and Gerbaudo... I don't know these fellows.. I think Gerbaudo has some callup to U18 or 19

Schiavone and Kabashi used to be the starters

 

[Mark]

Saw a couple of games from both and was impressed.

 

[PedroFlu]

and actually this team used to play 442 last year, which suited better the players Juve had... the team used to play better last year.

For example, Untersee is not a CB. He's a traditional RB. But he's playing as a CB because of the scheme.

I think this forced change to 352 is just stuped, because you never see a Primavera kid going straight to the professional squad at Juventus. 99% are loaned out to clubs which don't necessarily play 352. It makes no sense at all. Looks like a stupid attempt of imitating Barcelona.

 

[Cuti]

The game is this evening right?

 

[Mark]

little less than 5 hours.

 

[Cuti]

2045 CET?