Liverpool got more lucky breaks in that 2005 final than we have in all of our 9 finals put together.
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They got to face Spurs in their most recent final. We had to face 4 out of 5 Madrid and prime Messi-Suarez-Neymar Barcelona.
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We were big favourites in 97 but the team went AWOL. The offside goal in 98, and Nedved’s suspension in 03.
Juventus and Liverpool have both reached 9 European Cup finals. Liverpool are lucky bastards but have converted 6 of their opportunities. As for Juve…
Some teams are just suited for finals more than others it seems. Liverpool tends to be at their best in the European Cup/CL finals. 2005 was a massive fluke from Milan though, they should never have won that.
Not only was that Milan team far superior, they also had by far the most chances. Complacency got in their way.
Not only was that Milan team far superior, they also had by far the most chances. Complacency got in their way.
I don't know much about your European Cup finals, did you "deserve" to lose in any of those first four finals?
Bayern probably shouldn't have won against Leeds in 1975, against Atletico we scored in the dying seconds and won 4-0 in the replay.
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Feeling sad and happy for him at the same time watching this interview.
Bayern probably shouldn't have won against Leeds in 1975, against Atletico we scored in the dying seconds and won 4-0 in the replay.
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Feeling sad and happy for him at the same time watching this interview.
Chelsea 2012 comes to mind 
I certainly believe you can deserve to lose a final even if you win it and also the other way around. But mostly it's the small things that decides the outcome and you can say it was okay for the one team to win it. But in 2012 it was absolute powerplay towards Chelseas goal for the whole match, but fair play to them for taking their chance.
I could make a case for 99 also, but United scored two times in the stoppage time. That wasn't luck the second time, Bayern only got themselves to blame for that.
I certainly believe you can deserve to lose a final even if you win it and also the other way around. But mostly it's the small things that decides the outcome and you can say it was okay for the one team to win it. But in 2012 it was absolute powerplay towards Chelseas goal for the whole match, but fair play to them for taking their chance.
I could make a case for 99 also, but United scored two times in the stoppage time. That wasn't luck the second time, Bayern only got themselves to blame for that.
Chelsea 2012 comes to mind
I certainly believe you can deserve to lose a final even if you win it and also the other way around. But mostly it's the small things that decides the outcome and you can say it was okay for the one team to win it. But in 2012 it was absolute powerplay towards Chelseas goal for the whole match, but fair play to them for taking their chance.
I could make a case for 99 also, but United scored two times in the stoppage time. That wasn't luck the second time, Bayern only got themselves to blame for that.
I certainly believe you can deserve to lose a final even if you win it and also the other way around. But mostly it's the small things that decides the outcome and you can say it was okay for the one team to win it. But in 2012 it was absolute powerplay towards Chelseas goal for the whole match, but fair play to them for taking their chance.
I could make a case for 99 also, but United scored two times in the stoppage time. That wasn't luck the second time, Bayern only got themselves to blame for that.
I think with Chelsea’s win in 2012 you have to give them credit. Every player defended for 90 minutes and made no mistakes. That’s incredibly difficult to do especially in a final when everything is magnified.
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