Chiellini, Pjanić and Costa immediately come to mind. Others had flashes. Dybala scored 10 of his 26 goals in like 4-5 games at the start. Then had huge gaps in form rest of the year.
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One can't have an opinion without being labelled as whiny nowadays.
I gave Allegri the benefit of the doubt (which I mentioned in this very forum a couple of times) but after two seasons there are no signs of improvement, actually we've only declined. I'm grateful for everything he's done but he seems to be out of ideas. Every cycle has an end and his is over with us IMO.
If Dybala were to have another horrendous season I would ask for his departure as well.
I gave Allegri the benefit of the doubt (which I mentioned in this very forum a couple of times) but after two seasons there are no signs of improvement, actually we've only declined. I'm grateful for everything he's done but he seems to be out of ideas. Every cycle has an end and his is over with us IMO.
If Dybala were to have another horrendous season I would ask for his departure as well.
Costa was only good for the last 3 months and only had great performances against minnows and Inter.
Chiellini and Pjanic stand out, the latter had a much better season in 2017 however and the former didn't carry us.
Dybala scored many + scored in a Scudetto decider against Lazio when there were little hope and Spurs to make us qualify
Chiellini and Pjanic stand out, the latter had a much better season in 2017 however and the former didn't carry us.
Dybala scored many + scored in a Scudetto decider against Lazio when there were little hope and Spurs to make us qualify
I agree with you. Even on Allegri. It got pretty damn stale and frustrating this year. If we reinforce midfield and CB and bring in several fresh world class faces, I’m not opposed to him starting the season on the bench with a short leash (as in needs to be showing very quickly that he can have the team play positive and stood football by the end of group stage at the latest)... but if the team is going to only receive minor reinforcements, I’d prefer we bring in a fresh face with new motivation and ideas.
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to keeping Dybala for at least another season.
Douglas Costa for one was better, and he was player of the season. And he's another who seems to fit into the same category of mental fragility. He is almost the Dybala of last season - started like a man possessed and then disappeared, with glimpses of absolute quality.
Ultimately Juve were and are never going to win the CL when these are the quality attacking players the team is built around (as well as Ronaldo), unless there is a decisive change in their contribution.
The other thing is that the physical condition of the team has seemed sketchy all season, we arrived in garbage physical shape.
Ultimately Juve were and are never going to win the CL when these are the quality attacking players the team is built around (as well as Ronaldo), unless there is a decisive change in their contribution.
The other thing is that the physical condition of the team has seemed sketchy all season, we arrived in garbage physical shape.
The amount of cocksucking that guy receives from people who have heard of him just a month ago 
to me Dybala also was the MVP, but i have to give Costa a + for his Napoli away performance as well. started the counter on the goal and did great defensively to keep our 2 lines of 4 in tact. he then exploded in the last 3 months as an offensive weapon, but for the entire season, Dybala was the best to me. his goal vs Lazio, and his 2 assists vs inter in the title decider were crucial
man am not against Allegri even. but seriously people are delusional or something. since the departure of vidal, marchisio, pogba and pirlo. our team has suffered alot. we don't control games with this weak midfield we have. they are not good enough to hold juve. we have solid players all around the attack. they are top quality able to do stuff.
but u ask berna and dybala and others to do work of the midfield it doesn't make sense. the defense is not also so horrible either. but they cover for the hole i the middle.
i want a new midfield to support this team. our midfield has no class to control games
but u ask berna and dybala and others to do work of the midfield it doesn't make sense. the defense is not also so horrible either. but they cover for the hole i the middle.
i want a new midfield to support this team. our midfield has no class to control games
Nah. Dybala was the most important and most influential player of our team. He out scored his XG by a huge margin (26 goals is actually a lot more than he statistically should have scored based on the chances he got), and he was our most creative player on top of it.
Nah, Dybala was on balance our best player of the whole year. You are clueless if you think Costa was better.
Nah, Dybala was on balance our best player of the whole year. You are clueless if you think Costa was better.
Dybala essentially played Pogba’s role in 2016/17, and did an amazing job. He made a seemless transition from goalscorer to playmaker.
In 2017/18, we played Dybala as a wide forward with Costa as touchline winger, and he was again excellent for the majority of the season.
This season, Ronaldo plays as wide forward, so Dybala now plays as an attacking midfielder and also has more defensive responsibility than 2016/17 because Mandzukic doesn’t run anymore and Ronaldo doesn’t run anywhere near as much as Cuadrado did. Now at last, he finally has a poor season.
But this is all Dybala’s fault of course. Not Allegri for playing him out of position because he’s too afraid to drop his favourite Mandzukic. Not that imbecile Beppe for completely ruining our midfield, filling it with workhorses who can’t pass forward.
In 2017/18, we played Dybala as a wide forward with Costa as touchline winger, and he was again excellent for the majority of the season.
This season, Ronaldo plays as wide forward, so Dybala now plays as an attacking midfielder and also has more defensive responsibility than 2016/17 because Mandzukic doesn’t run anymore and Ronaldo doesn’t run anywhere near as much as Cuadrado did. Now at last, he finally has a poor season.
But this is all Dybala’s fault of course. Not Allegri for playing him out of position because he’s too afraid to drop his favourite Mandzukic. Not that imbecile Beppe for completely ruining our midfield, filling it with workhorses who can’t pass forward.
No I didn't say he had a bad season, I said he's stagnated for 15 months. Was he one of our best players last season? Well he has to be because there's only 5-6 players at any one time who can realistically have a shout, and he is a forward scoring 20+ goals so he is on the list by default. But I remember the performances starting to decline from 2018, now and then you'd see a special performance. Now it's a case of seeing maybe a special bit of play in a game.
In terms of general play I thought Higuain had a criminally underrated 17-18 season, but he gets judged on goals. That's the irony I guess. Chiellini for me was also consistently better. But generally it's irrelevant to my point, because Juve's strength is the unit and we can have a squad at 7/10 and win the league with a huge points total.
Take this season, who would you say was our third best player? After Ronaldo and Chiellini you're scratching around to find someone who has genuinely played toward their best level. So being one of the best players in a Juve season is not as it might seem. That's because of the state of the domestic league.
In terms of general play I thought Higuain had a criminally underrated 17-18 season, but he gets judged on goals. That's the irony I guess. Chiellini for me was also consistently better. But generally it's irrelevant to my point, because Juve's strength is the unit and we can have a squad at 7/10 and win the league with a huge points total.
Take this season, who would you say was our third best player? After Ronaldo and Chiellini you're scratching around to find someone who has genuinely played toward their best level. So being one of the best players in a Juve season is not as it might seem. That's because of the state of the domestic league.
"Credo che Dybala si sia svalutato per colpa sua, ha avuto un calo mentale. Invece di esaltarsi al fianco di Ronaldo ricaricandosi perché è alla Juventus, si è abbattuto e questo non è colpa della società". Lo ha detto Andrea Pirlo a Sky Sport a proposito della Joya.
"I think Dybala has devalued because of himself, he's had a mental decline. Instead of getting excited alongside Ronaldo, and reloading because he is at Juventus, he fell and this is not the fault of the company". Andrea Pirlo told Sky Sport about Joya.
"I think Dybala has devalued because of himself, he's had a mental decline. Instead of getting excited alongside Ronaldo, and reloading because he is at Juventus, he fell and this is not the fault of the company". Andrea Pirlo told Sky Sport about Joya.