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Juve FC

Senior Member
Jul 11, 2016
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I don't know who i hate more, Barca or PSG. For all the money Barca throws around they (as well as La Liga) are really crying like a bunch of bitches over this move. See the latest about La Liga not accepting the 220M if PSG does pay it?
 

Gep

The Guv'nor
Jun 12, 2005
16,493
If we do sell Dybala how can anyone not see what's right in front of them? We lose a top player every summer, possibly 2 this time. We are a selling club. Not on Barca or Bayern Munich or Real Madrid's tier. Not even on PSG or the EPL clubs tier.


I know. It's good here init.
 

lgorTudor

Senior Member
Jan 15, 2015
32,951
Im actually starting to get Marotta. He understands in the end it will be whatever the player wants to do. The player has the final word in today's football.
contracts have the final word. If Neymar chooses to buy himself free activating a clause it's still according to contract and thereby, according to the club's will.

Beppe just drops his pants everytime a semi big wallet is being pulled out without any need for that
 

MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
12,834
Your post is the one that makes more sense in the last couple of pages. If people stop and think about it even Barcelona cannot hold on to one of their best players when money talks.

Im actually starting to get Marotta. He understands in the end it will be whatever the player wants to do. The player has the final word in today's football.
This is what I said a week ago. It's up to the players and the agents. It's better to be on Raiola's good side than his bad side. As fucked up as that is to say, it's true.

It's better to get Pogba for 2-3 years and sell for a bag of money than to never get Pogba at all.

It's better to let Alves do whatever he wants so you can get the next Alves. The next Tevez, Pirlo, Khedira, Evra, etc.

Marotta is just trying to make the current climate as advantageous to us as possible. We're probably the top destination for free agents right now. We all wish we could be Barca, Madrid or an EPL club but the reality is that we play in Italy and those days are long gone. The league is so far behind in terms of appeal that it is a miracle we made it back to the top. An absolute miracle in my eyes.
 

pitbull

Senior Member
Jul 26, 2007
11,045
contracts have the final word. If Neymar chooses to buy himself free activating a clause it's still according to contract and thereby, according to the club's will.

Beppe just drops his pants everytime a semi big wallet is being pulled out without any need for that
Tevez at Man City proved that contract is worth shit if the player wants to leave
 

MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
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Empty talk. Name practical leverage that Pogba+Raiola had on Juventus last summer.
Well he could tell us to fuck off and we'll lose out on any big player that he would bring to us. Like Ibra, Nedved, Pogba. If he were to get his hands on the next big Italian thing, we'd be fucked. If he brought Pogba to Roma instead of us, I wonder how different the past few years would be. Maybe Roma takes a huge leap up in appeal, they cash in on him and now they don't have to sell anyone. Who knows what could happen. Why would we want to risk losing this relationship?

Basically agents like Raiola and Mendes own the players. The clubs just get to use them for a few years.

Now Raiola has his hands on Moise Kean. If we were on his bad side, Kean would be gone immediately.

Can you imagine this conversation:

"Fuck off Mino, we're not selling Pogba for anything."

"Bitch, I'm the one who brought you Pogba for $0. Do you want another?"

"....... fuck."
 

Juve FC

Senior Member
Jul 11, 2016
581
Well he could tell us to $#@! off and we'll lose out on any big player that he would bring to us. Like Ibra, Nedved, Pogba. If he were to get his hands on the next big Italian thing, we'd be $#@!ed. If he brought Pogba to Roma instead of us, I wonder how different the past few years would be. Maybe Roma takes a huge leap up in appeal, they cash in on him and now they don't have to sell anyone. Who knows what could happen. Why would we want to risk losing this relationship?

Basically agents like Raiola and Mendes own the players. The clubs just get to use them for a few years.

Now Raiola has his hands on Moise Kean. If we were on his bad side, Kean would be gone immediately.

Can you imagine this conversation:

"$#@! off Mino, we're not selling Pogba for anything."

"Bitch, I'm the one who brought you Pogba for $0. Do you want another?"

"....... $#@!."
I think you underestimate the power the player has over the agent. I also think you overestimate Pogba's influence on this club and what he would have done for Roma/Inter/Milan. No way he is worth 15+ points in the standings.
 

pitbull

Senior Member
Jul 26, 2007
11,045
Empty talk. Name practical leverage tools that Pogba+Raiola had on Juventus last summer.


IIRC ManC only had 1 year of contract left on Tevez when we bought him.
And the season before that Tevez was sick of England/Mancini and did whatever he wanted, despite being under contract at ManCity. Technically they owned a WC player, but in reality they'd have been better off if he was not there
 

Collaguazo

Pezuña Brava
Mar 4, 2012
3,610
Dybala base price 80M
Choking in CL final -30M
Being slapped by a Milanista-15M
Stupid Mask Celebration -10M
Messi fanboy -5M

Real Value: 20M

Crocodrile tears from Juventus Fans: Priceless
 
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Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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    The barca players you mentioned bar Suarez are mediocre for a top team standards. Then you go on saying how we are behind basing your opinion on the transfer market. Tbh, you sound like a bpl muppet who can only brag about transfer market because his team is shit on the pitch. Who cares how much we spend if we win on the pitch? You undermine our mercato but who our rivals brought in? Real bought Llorente, Cevallos and Vincious (however you spell it). Not too impressive huh? Barfa? A full back from Benfica wow. Bayern? A loan of out of form James. I will not be mentioning bpl clubs spending fortune on crap.

    Regarding bpl, oil, gas money. You all predict it's gonna make us irrelevant soon but somehow the facts differ, we keep on growing. Maybe you're not that smart as you think you are?

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    Real won a CL. They don't need to sign many players. But expect them to sign somebody surely. You try to make them look like clows but they will probably end up with Mbappe sooner or later. Somebody we could never sign. Barca will also spend big once they ship off Neymar.

    And please, I never said I'm smart. But you stating that BS just says that you think you know better than I do, which in fact makes you 'smarter'.

    Oh, and I never said we're regressing. I never denied the fact that we're growing.

    Before spreading more BS go scroll up and see your post where you wrote how we're gonna sell Dybala sooner or later -- which was exactly my point. I never said it's going to be this summer. I said we're gonna sell him sooner or later. And I said it won't surprise me if we sold him now.
     

    JuveJay

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    Mar 6, 2007
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    It's not little when BOTH the player and club is open to the possibility of this potential deal.
    In terms of anything concrete it's little. That might change the day after but for now it's little. If Barcelona decide for somebody else (as they should if they have half a brain) then it remains little.
     

    JuveJay

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    Moderator
    Mar 6, 2007
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    contracts have the final word. If Neymar chooses to buy himself free activating a clause it's still according to contract and thereby, according to the club's will.

    Beppe just drops his pants everytime a semi big wallet is being pulled out without any need for that
    Contracts mean nothing in modern football, only a retainer of value. The Spanish default of having exaggerated release clauses is what has created this monstrosity.
     

    Fantôme

    Junior Member
    Jul 25, 2015
    65
    People really think Beppe would sell Bonucci and Dybala on same window?

    Because i can't see it.

    Don't need the money. Not even to reinforce some other position. All our rumoured transfer targets are payable. Not like Verratti kind of fees.
     

    lgorTudor

    Senior Member
    Jan 15, 2015
    32,951
    Contracts mean nothing in modern football, only a retainer of value. The Spanish default of having exaggerated release clauses is what has created this monstrosity.
    Your opinion, nothing else. Barca had a release clause for twice the historical record transfer fee. It was their sale. The control was always with them
     

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