How many goals and assists this year - 2018/19

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JuveE46

Junior Member
Dec 6, 2015
346
Many ...as i remember or read about or watched ....those players excelled in both the old & new position ...and shifted to the new one because their are more quality in the team and don't want to sacrifice anyone ...like our current team ..we have a lot of quality ....so little adjustments in players favourite position could happen

Zambrotta ....was a right winger but Lippi changed his position into LB because of Camoranesi ...(google it) ... but still excelled
Schweinsteiger ...was a winger ..... but his coach changed him into central midfield...and he excelled very well ...
Mascherano ... was a DMF but Barca midfield was full and powerful ....and the coach put him as CB...but still excelled
Kompany ....usually plays as CB ...but he is being used as DMF ....but still excelled

you know don't even go far away ..Mandzukic is a central forward and Allegri put him a left winger .... and still excelled ...

and i believe you can find many .....

as for Dybala ....it's fact he lost his position here for Ronaldo .....so what is the solution in your mind ? ?
Allegri gave him new role to stay with us ...he showed very little ....so what you think ...keep him or return Ronaldo to Real...

so based on this which am saying very long time ....better for both parties to part a way ....Dybala has no place in our team and if you want to blame someone ....blame the one who brought Ronaldo ....not me !

Our options for LB when zambrotta came back Brindelli was the only one capable of playing at LB or RB and mainly played on the right. It was not out of choice but out of necessity to try zambrotta on LB and it payed off. it can be argued that zambrotta was meant to play fullback
and not midfield in the first place.Another words lippi just helped him discover his most effective position more than he adapted to a new postiion.

Same goes for Schweiny, with a powerful shot and game reading ability and defensive skills and not
crazy fast, would any sane coach keep playing him at wing?

"I think the biggest change for me personally is that finally ive been allowed to play in
my best position" GOOGLE IT.

This is the case of two players who found thier TRUE position not adapted. Macherano is the only one who adapted, and even than you can't compare to Dybala situation its apples and oranges. it is much more delicate when you talk about forwards combining to connect offensively for a goal than a bunch of defenders kicking under the ball for a clearance, a lot different and alot easier for DM to CB than forward to a wing or
CF. Mandz adapted for how long? Why didnt Max continue with this excelling new ways?

As for Dybala, (a player by the way who has the most direct comparison to one of two GOAT) yes he lost his place to GOAT, we didnt anticipate we would buy GOAT so now we have to find a system to use both players effectively not let the future GOAT go. Right now we dont have the personell to do that until we buy couple of qualitymids. To do this we dont have to weaken the team to make it strong in another area, we can let go of couple ofplayers like higuain or sandro etc. (another argument)
Dybala has a place in this team, but not when slow ass khedira or matuidi with his mancave technique is holding the midfield in 4231. .


Kompany as DMF? LOL what can i say this is your capacity...and cut the superior attitude. You are the one trying hard to pass of your opinions as facts so if you don't wana get clowned dont be a clown you assimilated jester.


Man you don’t know even how to aurge , better clown some posts... its more funny.
If someone read this and don't know who is Dybala ....he thinks you talk about Diego Armando Maradona :rofl:

better for him stay in Liverpool , if he celebrates his goals here .... Italian emotions will fail to handle it ...
 
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tvrtko

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Mar 14, 2019
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Why does a player have to score tons of goals to excel?

Mandžukić as a winger, Rooney as a midfielder for SAF, Villa from CF to winger, Eto'o at Inter was used all over the place, even as a wing-back at some points and was a key player in their treble. Kroos was a pure CAM at Bayern before Heynckes moved him back to a deeper role. KDB also at City, turned into an incredible all-rounder. Mbappe was a CF for Monaco when he burst onto the scene, now plays great for PSG as a pure right winger.
I'm not saying that a player has to score tons of goals. My point exactly is that if you move a player further away from the goal, he is going to score less, but people expect
from Dybala to score as much as he did (or more) as in earlier seasons.

Imo Dybala performs well with the tasks he's given. Obviously when he goes deep into the right wing, he's not a runner, and won't outrun 2 or 3 defenders. The best he can do whenever he drops back into the midfield/wing, he can hold up, keep possesion, pull 2 or 3 players/defenders towards him, get a free kick, pass or overlap with eg. Cancelo - and imo all of those things he does well.

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Also, for the ppl who think that Dybala scores goals against weaker teams only - the reason for that is because our midfield performs better against those teams, so he at those times plays closer to the goal and gets more useful balls indeed.
 
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Juventinoo

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Oct 20, 2004
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Mascherano was shit but could seem ok next to Pique (who is shit too imo) - but this was fine just because Barca didn't have a proper CB since Puyol.
I don't know about Schweinsteiger, and also don't think Kompany excelled at anything except CB.

In any case - can you name one attacker that supposedly changed his position to a deeper (far from goal) role, and still excelled (scored ton of goals)?
:sergio:

Why scoring goals should be the measure to you ! all mentioned players were excellent in their old & new roles ...and they are forced to do it ....
Dybala new role was to be the linkage between attack & midfield.... the roles needs to service our attackers ...create something...because Ronaldo took his place ...and he failed ...so tell me what to do ? answer my question what we should do here ? I tell you ...

Sack Allegri & Return Ronaldo to Real. period. if you can't , the selling Dybala is the way to go and bring much needed player st strenght our formation ....Dybala with Ronaldo just weakening our game .....

IlCapitano :baus:

exactly ..really thanks ...Eto , Rooney , Mbappe are the best examples even Mandzukic in our team ...all excelled ....especially Roooney ...
but lets not joke about ourselves ...Dybala is not even close to those guys ...

Dybala at his age now he should burning the ground running , assisting , scoring and open up the play ..but Nah ...he just a little girl once someone touch him..falls like a puppy on the ground...and even when he is in form ..it's just a burst form and very inconsistent ....

Sorry all Dybala fans ...but I love the team ...not the players ..

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Our options for LB when zambrotta came back Brindelli was the only one capable of playing at LB or RB and mainly played on the right. It was not out of choice but out of necessity to try zambrotta on LB and it payed off. it can be argued that zambrotta was meant to play fullback
and not midfield in the first place.Another words lippi just helped him discover his most effective position more than he adapted to a new postiion.

Same goes for Schweiny, with a powerful shot and game reading ability and defensive skills and not
crazy fast, would any sane coach keep playing him at wing?

"I think the biggest change for me personally is that finally ive been allowed to play in
my best position" GOOGLE IT.

This is the case of two players who found thier TRUE position not adapted. Macherano is the only one who adapted, and even than you can't compare to Dybala situation its apples and oranges. it is much more delicate when you talk about forwards combining to connect offensively for a goal than a bunch of defenders kicking under the ball for a clearance, a lot different and alot easier for DM to CB than forward to a wing or
CF. Mandz adapted for how long? Why didnt Max continue with this excelling new ways?

As for Dybala, (a player by the way who has the most direct comparison to one of two GOAT) yes he lost his place to GOAT, we didnt anticipate we would buy GOAT so now we have to find a system to use both players effectively not let the future GOAT go. Right now we dont have the personell to do that until we buy couple of qualitymids. To do this we dont have to weaken the team to make it strong in another area, we can let go of couple ofplayers like higuain or sandro etc. (another argument)
Dybala has a place in this team, but not when slow ass khedira or matuidi with his mancave technique is holding the midfield in 4231. .


Kompany as DMF? LOL what can i say this is your capacity...and cut the superior attitude. You are the one trying hard to pass of your opinions as facts so if you don't wana get clowned dont be a clown you assimilated jester.

:sergio: .... all the names i mentioned ...they are forced to their new roles even they were excellent in their previous ones ..due to the team needs ...
I could mention Pirlo but i didn't because he started as trequartista but then Carlo Ancelotti invented new role to him which a deep-lying play maker ..am not talking about those changes ....am talking about excelling in both and forced to play that for the sake of the team ....

any way my Juve fellas ...am not here to convince any one ...am just sharing my thoughts and want the team i support to be better .....

Ps: Post Ironic come and discuss with us dont hide behind ur dislike button .... something scare you sweeti
 
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Bianconero81

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Jan 26, 2009
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Dybala invites 'hero' to Juve game
By Football Italia staff

Juventus star Paulo Dybala invited “hero” Rami Shehata to a match after the 13-year-old’s actions saved a bus full of his school friends.
The school bus was hijacked by the driver, who got teachers to tie them up and then set fire to the vehicle in Milan this week.
Although the driver had confiscated all their mobile phones, 13-year-old Rami – the son of Egyptian parents – hid his phone and called for help while pretending to pray out loud.
All the kids were rescued by authorities and the driver arrested.
Spotting in interviews that Rami had a Dybala jersey, the Juventus star called him up and left a voicemail.
“Hello Rami, I am Paulo Dybala and I wanted to say that I heard what you did, you are really a hero. I heard you’ve got my shirt and I’d love to be able to talk to you.
“I’m inviting you to the Stadium to watch a game, whenever you can. I really hope to meet you. You’re a great guy, I send you a big hug.”
Rami has been at the centre of a political row in Italy because it was suggested his heroic actions could earn him Italian citizenship, whereas the 13-year-old pointed out being born and raised in the country should be enough.
Deputy Prime Minister Matteo Salvini of the hard-right anti-immigration Lega Nord party, replied: “In that case, he should try to get elected and change the law.”

Wow. What a prick. A typical xenophobic cunt (looks and acts like one). People like this deserve the 3 step treatment:

1.) Gasoline
2.) Match
3.) You know the drill
 

Cerval

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Feb 20, 2016
15,169
Dybala invites 'hero' to Juve game
By Football Italia staff

Juventus star Paulo Dybala invited “hero” Rami Shehata to a match after the 13-year-old’s actions saved a bus full of his school friends.
The school bus was hijacked by the driver, who got teachers to tie them up and then set fire to the vehicle in Milan this week.
Although the driver had confiscated all their mobile phones, 13-year-old Rami – the son of Egyptian parents – hid his phone and called for help while pretending to pray out loud.
All the kids were rescued by authorities and the driver arrested.
Spotting in interviews that Rami had a Dybala jersey, the Juventus star called him up and left a voicemail.
“Hello Rami, I am Paulo Dybala and I wanted to say that I heard what you did, you are really a hero. I heard you’ve got my shirt and I’d love to be able to talk to you.
“I’m inviting you to the Stadium to watch a game, whenever you can. I really hope to meet you. You’re a great guy, I send you a big hug.”
Rami has been at the centre of a political row in Italy because it was suggested his heroic actions could earn him Italian citizenship, whereas the 13-year-old pointed out being born and raised in the country should be enough.
Deputy Prime Minister Matteo Salvini of the hard-right anti-immigration Lega Nord party, replied: “In that case, he should try to get elected and change the law.”

Wow. What a prick. A typical xenophobic cunt (looks and acts like one). People like this deserve the 3 step treatment:

1.) Gasoline
2.) Match
3.) You know the drill
Oh boy, born and raised and he doesn't have citizenship
 

DAiDEViL

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2015
37,283
Dybala invites 'hero' to Juve game
By Football Italia staff

Juventus star Paulo Dybala invited “hero” Rami Shehata to a match after the 13-year-old’s actions saved a bus full of his school friends.
The school bus was hijacked by the driver, who got teachers to tie them up and then set fire to the vehicle in Milan this week.
Although the driver had confiscated all their mobile phones, 13-year-old Rami – the son of Egyptian parents – hid his phone and called for help while pretending to pray out loud.
All the kids were rescued by authorities and the driver arrested.
Spotting in interviews that Rami had a Dybala jersey, the Juventus star called him up and left a voicemail.
“Hello Rami, I am Paulo Dybala and I wanted to say that I heard what you did, you are really a hero. I heard you’ve got my shirt and I’d love to be able to talk to you.
“I’m inviting you to the Stadium to watch a game, whenever you can. I really hope to meet you. You’re a great guy, I send you a big hug.”
Rami has been at the centre of a political row in Italy because it was suggested his heroic actions could earn him Italian citizenship, whereas the 13-year-old pointed out being born and raised in the country should be enough.
Deputy Prime Minister Matteo Salvini of the hard-right anti-immigration Lega Nord party, replied: “In that case, he should try to get elected and change the law.”

Wow. What a prick. A typical xenophobic cunt (looks and acts like one). People like this deserve the 3 step treatment:

1.) Gasoline
2.) Match
3.) You know the drill
He really should. Then again, he probably isn't enough of a shithead to stand a chance of getting elected in italy.
 

JuveE46

Junior Member
Dec 6, 2015
346
:sergio:

:sergio: .... all the names i mentioned ...they are forced to their new roles even they were excellent in their previous ones ..due to the team needs ...
I could mention Pirlo but i didn't because he started as trequartista but then Carlo Ancelotti invented new role to him which a deep-lying play maker ..am not talking about those changes ....am talking about excelling in both and forced to play that for the sake of the team ....

any way my Juve fellas ...am not here to convince any one ...am just sharing my thoughts and want the team i support to be better .....

Ps: Post Ironic come and discuss with us dont hide behind ur dislike button .... something scare you sweeti
Previous roles they had was not thier main position. The new position was thier true position. Zambrotta was meant to be a LB not a midfielder period. Therefore he EXCELLED.
Ancelotti didnt invent shit, he saw Pirlo would have more freedom playing deep and moved him there..you couldnt mention Pirlo because just like zambrotta example and sweinstiger example, it is wrong.. Chielo can play GK for the sake of the team. But if you want to call it to "excel" it is not so. Mandz didnt excel at the wing or else he would still be playing there. you call it excel that is your opinion not fact. The only argument you have which is still false, is "Dybala doesnt fit in this team" that is all you got.. so support that argument, is he is out of form? he is world class talent wise but doesnt understand how he is supposed to fit in the new system? he is stupid? lazy? slow? weak? talk about that forget your irrelevant examples about macherano changing roles etc.
Juve fan since 98? I am since 95 and i remember ADP when he was weak physically when he came in. We could have sold DP for good money after couple of seasons..Should we have gotten rid of him for a one hit wonder like salah? or same type of player a one dimensional inzaghi? or did we do the right thing by giving DP more time and keeping him?
 
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The Quazis

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Dec 21, 2012
3,077
Dybala invites 'hero' to Juve game
By Football Italia staff

Juventus star Paulo Dybala invited “hero” Rami Shehata to a match after the 13-year-old’s actions saved a bus full of his school friends.
The school bus was hijacked by the driver, who got teachers to tie them up and then set fire to the vehicle in Milan this week.
Although the driver had confiscated all their mobile phones, 13-year-old Rami – the son of Egyptian parents – hid his phone and called for help while pretending to pray out loud.
All the kids were rescued by authorities and the driver arrested.
Spotting in interviews that Rami had a Dybala jersey, the Juventus star called him up and left a voicemail.
“Hello Rami, I am Paulo Dybala and I wanted to say that I heard what you did, you are really a hero. I heard you’ve got my shirt and I’d love to be able to talk to you.
“I’m inviting you to the Stadium to watch a game, whenever you can. I really hope to meet you. You’re a great guy, I send you a big hug.”
Rami has been at the centre of a political row in Italy because it was suggested his heroic actions could earn him Italian citizenship, whereas the 13-year-old pointed out being born and raised in the country should be enough.
Deputy Prime Minister Matteo Salvini of the hard-right anti-immigration Lega Nord party, replied: “In that case, he should try to get elected and change the law.”

Wow. What a prick. A typical xenophobic cunt (looks and acts like one). People like this deserve the 3 step treatment:

1.) Gasoline
2.) Match
3.) You know the drill
I wouldn't be surprised if that whole event was orchestrated. Kinda the same like the one in France when an illegal black immigrant climbed up the balcony to save a child. It all has to do with improving the image of minorities. Salvini is right here. I do not follow Italian politics much but surprisingly, it seems like Italy is trying to run their country independently and to benefit their countrymen. You don't see that much in Europe these days.

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DAiDEViL

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Feb 21, 2015
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I wouldn't be surprised if that whole event was orchestrated. Kinda the same like the one in France when an illegal black immigrant climbed up the balcony to save a child. It all has to do with improving the image of minorities. Salvini is right here. I do not follow Italian politics much but surprisingly, it seems like Italy is trying to run their country independently and to benefit their countrymen. You don't see that much in Europe these days.

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:sergio:
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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I wouldn't be surprised if that whole event was orchestrated. Kinda the same like the one in France when an illegal black immigrant climbed up the balcony to save a child. It all has to do with improving the image of minorities. Salvini is right here. I do not follow Italian politics much but surprisingly, it seems like Italy is trying to run their country independently and to benefit their countrymen. You don't see that much in Europe these days.

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that's a well-known narrative in hungary, too. some people see a soros conspiracy in every corner. i even read from a well known local journalist that the christchurch massacre was a secret service operation that will be used in the ep elections. :baus:

why wouldn't we just let that little guy enjoy the invitation dybala sent him...
 

The Quazis

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Dec 21, 2012
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that's a well-known narrative in hungary, too. some people see a soros conspiracy in every corner. i even read from a well known local journalist that the christchurch massacre was a secret service operation that will be used in the ep elections. :baus:

why wouldn't we just let that little guy enjoy the invitation dybala sent him...
What conspiracy, you have to be blind not to see that multiculti is being pumped up by the media. They will be praising their heroic acts while remain silent for their vandalism etc.

Coming back to the boy, of course, we could but the first thing being put on the first pages is his nationality and lack of Italian citizenship.

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lgorTudor

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Jan 15, 2015
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I wouldn't be surprised if that whole event was orchestrated. Kinda the same like the one in France when an illegal black immigrant climbed up the balcony to save a child. It all has to do with improving the image of minorities. Salvini is right here. I do not follow Italian politics much but surprisingly, it seems like Italy is trying to run their country independently and to benefit their countrymen. You don't see that much in Europe these days.

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easy there

first the Polish concentration camps in WW2 and now this statement
 

Cerval

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Feb 20, 2016
15,169
What conspiracy, you have to be blind not to see that multiculti is being pumped up by the media. They will be praising their heroic acts while remain silent for their vandalism etc.

Coming back to the boy, of course, we could but the first thing being put on the first pages is his nationality and lack of Italian citizenship.

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What's wrong with interculturalism? I don't mean multiculturalism (it has benefits but also flaws).

I also remember you disliked a post of mine where I said nationalism is cancer. Usually it's weak persons that hold the belief that their nationality makes them superior to others. Patriotism is healthy, nationalism is not.
 

The Quazis

Senior Member
Dec 21, 2012
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easy there

first the Polish concentration camps in WW2 and now this statement
Haha, not gonna get triggered by this bs again ;). Actually, you should be infracted for that.

What's wrong with interculturalism? I don't mean multiculturalism (it has benefits but also flaws).

I also remember you disliked a post of mine where I said nationalism is cancer. Usually it's the weak persons that hold the belief that their nationality makes them superior to others. Patriotism is healthy, nationalism is not.
There's nothing wrong with it but it's utopian and you can see it perfectly in western Europe. Go to Brussels or Paris and see how these cities look like these days. They stink of human excrements and their architecture is being vandalised by "cultural enrichment".See this video:
You have army on the streets and when entering the metro you never know if it's gonna be your last ride or not.

Speaking of nationalism, first please check the exact definition because you confuse it with chauvinism.

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DAiDEViL

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Feb 21, 2015
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Posting a Youtube video of that fuck :inter:

Edgy wannabe Alex Jones that pulls statistics right out if his arse to please his Trump supporting fans. Guy's utter trash. Taking that guy serious :lol:
 
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Kasaki

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I wouldn't be surprised if that whole event was orchestrated. Kinda the same like the one in France when an illegal black immigrant climbed up the balcony to save a child. It all has to do with improving the image of minorities. Salvini is right here. I do not follow Italian politics much but surprisingly, it seems like Italy is trying to run their country independently and to benefit their countrymen. You don't see that much in Europe these days.

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Idiot alert. Lmao I can't believe people like you exist.
 

The Quazis

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Dec 21, 2012
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Posting a Youtube video of that fuck :inter:

Edgy wannabe Alex Jones that pulls statistics right out if his arse to please his Trump supporting fans. Guy's utter trash. Taking that guy serious
In that particular video there's no statistics mentioned if I remember correctly so what's your point? I haven't been in Paris nor in Brussels recently but my friend was in Brussels sightseeing like three weeks ago and he said exactly the same thing (he has not seen the video). So can you share your memories with us of your last visit to the aforementioned cities.

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