Paulo Dybala (178 Viewers)
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Yup. And it informs the construction of the rest of your team. This is why I'm a bit disappointed we haven't tried Dybala anywhere but as a SS. Just to find out for sure what he can do. Because imagine how much easier it is to build a team if he can play RW.
And this is why I say you have to look heavily at the Dybala/Higuain partnership before you set out on your mercato. Because you are buying very different CMs based on a 4-4-2 or a 4-3-3. Example being how we passed Tolisso because of formation.
And this is why I say you have to look heavily at the Dybala/Higuain partnership before you set out on your mercato. Because you are buying very different CMs based on a 4-4-2 or a 4-3-3. Example being how we passed Tolisso because of formation.
I don't even think Pjanic is suited for this formation at all.
I think the only midfielder or striker that actually fits this formation is Cuadrado who is a traditional 4-4-2 style winger. Matuidi mayyyyyybe fits it but you want a little more overall technique from the CM.
You basically need two immense CMs. Like a Saul-Kante partnership or Vidal-Verratti.
For me, all our formation options come down to how can you inconvenience everyone the least. Because no matter what, someone is playing in a position not designed for them.
As far as Dybala goes, he looks bad at RW for Argentina I agree. But he has basically no minutes there in his career. With us, I think we could have given him a run against the minnows of Serie A just to see.
Because right now with him in the centre we are basically sacrificing a DM to protect our CBs and allowing teams huge spaces between the lines because we only have 2 CMs. If he played RW, you would sacrifice his side of the pitch, but at least it's not the fucking centre of the field, right on top of the box.
I think the only midfielder or striker that actually fits this formation is Cuadrado who is a traditional 4-4-2 style winger. Matuidi mayyyyyybe fits it but you want a little more overall technique from the CM.
You basically need two immense CMs. Like a Saul-Kante partnership or Vidal-Verratti.
For me, all our formation options come down to how can you inconvenience everyone the least. Because no matter what, someone is playing in a position not designed for them.
As far as Dybala goes, he looks bad at RW for Argentina I agree. But he has basically no minutes there in his career. With us, I think we could have given him a run against the minnows of Serie A just to see.
Because right now with him in the centre we are basically sacrificing a DM to protect our CBs and allowing teams huge spaces between the lines because we only have 2 CMs. If he played RW, you would sacrifice his side of the pitch, but at least it's not the fucking centre of the field, right on top of the box.
If the goal of Juventus is to inconvenience Dybala the least, then I agree.
But like I said, no matter what we pick, someone is in a poor position. Mandzukic is not a LM. Costa is not a RM. Pjanic is not a pure CM. Not even Khedira is. We are playing basically 4 players behind Dybala who are not in their best positions.
All I said is I wish we tried him there. I notice the games where he is forced to run are usually his best games.
There's no way we can play the same way we did against Spurs and win the CL. There's no way our current midfield can support this formation.
But like I said, no matter what we pick, someone is in a poor position. Mandzukic is not a LM. Costa is not a RM. Pjanic is not a pure CM. Not even Khedira is. We are playing basically 4 players behind Dybala who are not in their best positions.
All I said is I wish we tried him there. I notice the games where he is forced to run are usually his best games.
There's no way we can play the same way we did against Spurs and win the CL. There's no way our current midfield can support this formation.
All the players you mentionned can play those positions you mention except Mandzu who is just not fit into a 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 with Dybala starting. Just bench Mandzu and play Matuidi instead of Mandzu, Costa can handle RM off the ball, and just move up further with the ball. Khedira should be gotten rid of, period, and Pjanic can be CM with Matuidi as LM off the ball and 2nd less sucky non Khedira CM next to him.
I agree with u, that's why it's hard to find the balance in this squad. The problem is that it doesn't matter how we play there'll always be players that don't suit their position. The 2-man mid doesn't suit Matuidi, the 3-man mid doesn't suit Khedira. Pjanic as our deepest midfielder doesn't offer any protection. Higuain is better off as a lone #9 than in a 2-man frontline. Dybala is only suited to a 2-man frontline.
We really need a blueprint like with the 3-5-2. Because right now our tactics are to get the most out of some players during some phases of the season but I can't find the structure..
We really need a blueprint like with the 3-5-2. Because right now our tactics are to get the most out of some players during some phases of the season but I can't find the structure..
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I'm half joking. But I used to think Sandro was unreservedly being looked over for Felipe Luis. These days though...
And I kinda feel Sampaoli was hinting at something when he said why he didn't pick Dybala and Icardi. Maybe he thinks they're not as good as they look for their clubs
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And I kinda feel Sampaoli was hinting at something when he said why he didn't pick Dybala and Icardi. Maybe he thinks they're not as good as they look for their clubs
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See above