Paulo Dybala (144 Viewers)

[Xperd]

I agree we are soft in that regard but the argument on the other side and the one the club has actively taken is that considering a club of our stature and pedigree that if you wish to no longer play here then we don't want or need you here any longer. At least they are consistent on both fronts: players here already or ones we want to buy. Moral is: if you don't want us then we don't want you.

So if this keeps happening and we let go of players as soon as they ask to leave, isn't it essentially hurting the stature of the club ? Will we even have a reputation of a big club because which big club sells it's star player every year and take a stand that if a player doesn't want to be in a club of our stature, then he is free to leave ? It's a two way thing imo.

This ask to leave policy is justified but only to a certain extent because you're making a bad example of what the reputation of a big club should be if you're letting go of your best players every year. It kills me when I see clubs like Pool and Everton fight hard to keep their stars and it's not like the performances of those players drop off either. Suárez asked to leave Pool and in the very same season becomes the best player in the league. Pirlo asked to leave Milan in 2006 but Milan kept him and he went on to win CL.

Sometimes it's not necessary that you have to sway to players' wishes imo.

 

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[Bianconero81]

Of course it isn't. It is a ridiculous policy. Big clubs don't sell their best players, and at some point, we are going to have to stop that as well. It's one thing to sell a Zidane every decade or so, but you can't dismantle an awesome midfield in two seasons, and not suffer as a consequence. I'm sure our board/management are aware of this, and are working to rectify the "problem."

Big players/household names = more fans = more money from merchandise. If we keep selling our best players, we won't grow as a club, and no, Italian players aren't enough, because we already dominate the Italian market, and if we wish to be considered a true global powerhouse, we need to target the stars of today, and potential stars of the future.

 

[JCK]

So if this keeps happening and we let go of players as soon as they ask to leave, isn't it essentially hurting the stature of the club ? Will we even have a reputation of a big club because which big club sells it's star player every year and take a stand that if a player doesn't want to be in a club of our stature, then he is free to leave ? It's a two way thing imo.

This ask to leave policy is justified but only to a certain extent because you're making a bad example of what the reputation of a big club should be if you're letting go of your best players every year. It kills me when I see clubs like Pool and Everton fight hard to keep their stars and it's not like the performances of those players drop off either. Suárez asked to leave Pool and in the very same season becomes the best player in the league. Pirlo asked to leave Milan in 2006 but Milan kept him and he went on to win CL.

Sometimes it's not necessary that you have to sway to players' wishes imo.

Why go far? Juventus pre-Calciopoli, Del Piero and Treezeguet asked to leave several times and in the end they didn't and went on to be club legends.

 

[JuveJay]

Unfortunately two things have changed since then - the standing of Serie A, and the increased power of football agents. The likes of Moggi couldn't happen these days.

 

[Osman]

Why go far? Juventus pre-Calciopoli, Del Piero and Treezeguet asked to leave several times and in the end they didn't and went on to be club legends.

Del Piero asked to leave several times? wtf, it was only empty flirting compliment with Man U in what if scenarios nearer end of his career or contract talks. It was Trezeguet and Camoranesi who were public about wanting to leave.

 

[Xperd]

Unfortunately two things have changed since then - the standing of Serie A, and the increased power of football agents. The likes of Moggi couldn't happen these days.

Let's say Dybala asks to leave this summer. Should we let him go ?

 

[CrimsonianKing]

So if this keeps happening and we let go of players as soon as they ask to leave, isn't it essentially hurting the stature of the club ? Will we even have a reputation of a big club because which big club sells it's star player every year and take a stand that if a player doesn't want to be in a club of our stature, then he is free to leave ? It's a two way thing imo.

This ask to leave policy is justified but only to a certain extent because you're making a bad example of what the reputation of a big club should be if you're letting go of your best players every year. It kills me when I see clubs like Pool and Everton fight hard to keep their stars and it's not like the performances of those players drop off either. Suárez asked to leave Pool and in the very same season becomes the best player in the league. Pirlo asked to leave Milan in 2006 but Milan kept him and he went on to win CL.

Sometimes it's not necessary that you have to sway to players' wishes imo.

You have a contract, I don't give a fuck what you want. You play for us. Ive always found the whole "if they ask to leave we let them" attitude pathetic. Utterly pathetic.

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Let's say Dybala asks to leave this summer. Should we let him go ?

No.

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Unfortunately two things have changed since then - the standing of Serie A, and the increased power of football agents. The likes of Moggi couldn't happen these days.

That's true but what can a agent do except trash talk a team to the media? There's a contract and really, it'll always come down to a player with no choice but to play. Not playing or playing badly on purpose can hurt his appeal to other clubs. Our approach is again ridiculous.

 

[il brutto]

I like our approach in this matter, although I find it mildly arrogant.

 

[Lion]

sell to china 300m

use that money to bring in the superior berardi and neymar and vidal


play neymar-higgy- berardi

 

[JuveJay]

Let's say Dybala asks to leave this summer. Should we let him go ?

Said before, all players who ask to leave should be free to leave. I like that we see it as an insult that players think they can get better elsewhere, even if they might be able to (at least short term). The fact players would ask to leave Juventus is something people should think and worry about more than how we deal with the situation.

Having said that there is next to no suggestion he wants to leave, unless you put contracts negotiations and the usual Spanish trolling together to get the story.

I don't get attached to players anyway, football is shite now with all the money and club hopping. In years gone by players were far happier to stick around for years, now they seem to get bored in 5 minutes.

We also know damn well that Dybala will go off to Spain one day, probably Barcelona, we knew that the day we signed him. Fuck crying about it now.

 

[Siamak]

Let's say Dybala asks to leave this summer. Should we let him go ?

Answer:

 

[Xperd]

Said before, all players who ask to leave should be free to leave. I like that we see it as an insult that players think they can get better elsewhere, even if they might be able to (at least short term). The fact players would ask to leave Juventus is something people should think and worry about more than how we deal with the situation.

Having said that there is next to no suggestion he wants to leave, unless you put contracts negotiations and the usual Spanish trolling together to get the story.

I don't get attached to players anyway, football is shite now with all the money and club hopping. In years gone by players were far happier to stick around for years, now they seem to get bored in 5 minutes.

We also know damn well that Dybala will go off to Spain one day, probably Barcelona, we knew that the day we signed him. Fuck crying about it now.

This is not an issue about retaining players long term though because in Pogba's case we always knew he was going to leave. I am just saying we don't necessarily need to give in to player's wishes as soon as they ask to leave. We could even delay the sale by a year. That's what Liverpool did with Suárez.

I don't know what gave you the impression I'm crying about it though. I just threw a hypothetical question out there.

If I have to answer the same question , I'd say no. I'd probably delay the sale by a year and I'm sure as fucking hell his performance level won't drop off because he's playing elite level football anyway.

 

[juventus4life]

I think the policy "who ask to leave should be free to leave" created by A. Angelli's ego as I don't see such a policy at most of the clubs, big or small. I don't think the trend is about to change in the near future. This policy attracts other big clubs to weaken our team.

 

[JCK]

Del Piero asked to leave several times? wtf, it was only empty flirting compliment with Man U in what if scenarios nearer end of his career or contract talks. It was Trezeguet and Camoranesi who were public about wanting to leave.

If I am mistaken about Del Piero then you have added Camoranesi to the equation, you get my point.

 

[JuveJay]

This is not an issue about retaining players long term though because in Pogba's case we always knew he was going to leave. I am just saying we don't necessarily need to give in to player's wishes as soon as they ask to leave. We could even delay the sale by a year. That's what Liverpool did with Suárez.

I don't know what gave you the impression I'm crying about it though. I just threw a hypothetical question out there.

If I have to answer the same question , I'd say no. I'd probably delay the sale by a year and I'm sure as fucking hell his performance level won't drop off because he's playing elite level football anyway.

I didn't mean you personally but in general it has started already and will get worse as the inevitable rumours carry on for months. That's standard football fare now, tiresome but inevitable.

 

[Osman]

Let's say Dybala asks to leave this summer. Should we let him go ?

Anyone who says yes is a simp.

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[Boksic]

Looked a bit rusty.

Glad to see him step up and score the penalty.

 

[X Æ A-12]

everytime he goes down or looks injured i cringe

 

[Hydde]

Could be better

 

[JuveID]

This is not an issue about retaining players long term though because in Pogba's case we always knew he was going to leave. I am just saying we don't necessarily need to give in to player's wishes as soon as they ask to leave. We could even delay the sale by a year. That's what Liverpool did with Suárez.

I don't know what gave you the impression I'm crying about it though. I just threw a hypothetical question out there.

If I have to answer the same question , I'd say no. I'd probably delay the sale by a year and I'm sure as $#@!ing hell his performance level won't drop off because he's playing elite level football anyway.

You really think we did not anything to retain player and just said "yes you can leave"?
According to raiola, he and pogba planned to leave one years ago. Marotta asked him to delay it one year. Raiola said okay and then we sold him.
So we had delayed pogba's sale as you wished.

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