Paulo Dybala (128 Viewers)

[s4tch]

...I think it's reasonable what we're doing with Dybała....

imo it's quite the opposite actually.

arrivabene said yesterday that everyone must earn his place and let's see dybala in the next few games. let's suppose that arrivabene picked his words and he really meant what he said. in that case, WAT?! next few games, that's what dybala has to prove himself? he's been at the club for 7 years, we are offering him millions of euros, and now he has a few games to prove himself? do we even know what kind of player he is? or we have no idea after 7 years? what the actual fuck, that's our strategy? that's how we expect players to be dedicated?

don't get me wrong, it's not about dybala himself. it's about the lack of clear vision. you want an important player to stay? get done with the contract. you want him to leave? stop the bullshit, and bring a replacement already. that arrivabene interview is probably the worst i've heard from any juve executive in the last 10 years. completely unacceptable, providing he knows what he's talking about. if he was drunk, then fine, that's an excuse lol

very, very hard years are coming if that's our management. prepare yourself for even worse.

 

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[Pirlo's Beard]

Not signing him up sooner even if it was just with the view of selling him was a huge fuck up

Not giving him the extra couple mill a year when we could've definitely flipped him for 50-60 at least is bad

But I won't be that sorry to see him go, I've grown to dislike players who are never available for long. Every week hoping against hope that they're fit for the big game


He's obviously one of our best players but I think half of the fucking posters here would be top 5 in this decrepit squad with a years training and fitness regime

 

[s4tch]

joke of a club if true. and again, it's not about dybala specifically. we simply have no idea what we're doing.

 

[Bianconero81]

Arriverderci is such a boss. I am so proud of that brute oaf Negotiating and then renegotiating - both he and Chimichanga should go to Egypt and ply their trade in El Dawri El Momtaz, where the whole "your word is your bond" mantra has lost its meaning in the pile of lies that has engulfed the country.

 

[kao_ray]

joke of a club if true. and again, it's not about dybala specifically. we simply have no idea what we're doing.

I disagree. It's a move in the right direction to expect him to lower his salary demands when obviously no other club is willing to offer him the money he wants even if there is no transfer fee.

Isn't it strange that no big club wants him for free?

 

[s4tch]

I disagree. It's a move in the right direction to expect him to lower his salary demands when obviously no other club is willing to offer him the money he wants even if there is no transfer fee.

1. obviously? what kind of obviously obvious offers dybala has? 2. we made an offer a couple of months ago, everything was agreed. didn't we know the conditions back in november or december? the previously agreed contract was supposedly agreed by both parties and was preceded by negotiations. what changed? an injury? ffs he's been our player for 7 years, we should fully know everything about him by now.

again, joke of a management this is. that's not how you handle the contract of a supposedly important player. either you make an offer and stick with it, or you don't make an offer, thank for the service and say goodbye. changing your word within a few months? amateurish.

 

[Bianconero81]

I disagree. It's a move in the right direction to expect him to lower his salary demands when obviously no other club is willing to offer him the money he wants even if there is no transfer fee.

Isn't it strange that no big club wants him for free?

How is it the right move? You proposed a contract, and now you're going back on your initial offer or you threaten to renege it, and then proceed to single him out in the media? That's a total bitch move.

Imagine your boss promises you a promotion, and then decides to go back on that promise 2-3 months later. How would that make you feel?

 

[Gigiventus]

I disagree. It's a move in the right direction to expect him to lower his salary demands when obviously no other club is willing to offer him the money he wants even if there is no transfer fee.

Isn't it strange that no big club wants him for free?

Who says no big club will want him for free? I think he'll go to Barca if he is a free agent. Probably many EPL clubs would sign him.

 

[K.O.]

I understand both sides of this saga tbh. Juve shouldn't sign Dybala on a long contract with high wages when he's 28 and then complain in a couple of years he's not worth it. On the other hand, Dybala shouldn't accept Juve's offer if there are a dozen European clubs willing to give him what he wants for what's probably the last big contract of his career.

The reason for all of this mess is again the legendary Paratici when he decided to put Dybala on the market and thus not locking him in with a reasonable contract two years ago.

 

[kao_ray]

1. obviously? what kind of obviously obvious offers dybala has? 2. we made an offer a couple of months ago, everything was agreed. didn't we know the conditions back in november or december? the previously agreed contract was supposedly agreed by both parties and was preceded by negotiations. what changed? an injury? ffs he's been our player for 7 years, we should fully know everything about him by now.

again, joke of a management this is. that's not how you handle the contract of a supposedly important player. either you make an offer and stick with it, or you don't make an offer, thank for the service and say goodbye. changing your word within a few months? amateurish.

1. He is a free agent now. I don't see any club negotiating with him.
2. If there was a contract that both parties agreed on - he would have signed a new contract.

The management are evaluating him as a useful player that should stay but not at all cost. I like that.

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Who says no big club will want him for free? I think he'll go to Barca if he is a free agent. Probably many EPL clubs would sign him.

He is a free agent now. I don't see any interest.

 

[Akshen]

I understand both sides of this saga tbh. Juve shouldn't sign Dybala on a long contract with high wages when he's 28 and then complain in a couple of years he's not worth it. On the other hand, Dybala shouldn't accept Juve's offer if there are a dozen European clubs willing to give him what he wants for what's probably the last big contract of his career.

The reason for all of this mess is again the legendary Paratici when he decided to put Dybala on the market and thus not locking him in with a reasonable contract two years ago.

Paratici is not to be blamed for this one, its the Dybala situation. This guy is always injured for like 1.5 year, its no wonder the club hesitates here, because whenever he comes back he get injured again. He wasnt able to play 4 straight games this season yet if im not wrong. Its reported we want to move more of the salary to the bonuses, which probably depends on games played and its really understandable, because it covers our interest.
Even we as his fanboys here are hesitant on his renewal, because his fitness level lately is really looking bad. If any other club wants to risk 10m net a year for him, then what we can really do.

 

[kao_ray]

How is it the right move? You proposed a contract, and now you're going back on your initial offer or you threaten to renege it, and then proceed to single him out in the media? That's a total bitch move.

Imagine your boss promises you a promotion, and then decides to go back on that promise 2-3 months later. How would that make you feel?

As I said if there was a mutual agreement on the contract proposal Dybala would have signed the contract. Obviously fanbois of Dybala like Romeo Agresti are reporting BS that the contract is missing only a signature because of bias and wishful thinking towards Dybala.

Life is negotiation.

 

[K.O.]

Paratici is not to be blamed for this one, its the Dybala situation. This guy is always injured for like 1.5 year, its no wonder the club hesitates here, because whenever he comes back he get injured again. He wasnt able to play 4 straight games this season yet if im not wrong. Its reported we want to move more of the salary to the bonuses, which probably depends on games played and its really understandable, because it covers our interest.
Even we as his fanboys here are hesitant on his renewal, because his fitness level lately is really looking bad. If any other club wants to risk 10m net a year for him, then what we can really do.

Paratici almost publicly put Dybala on the market and failed to sell him two years ago. If at that time, he didn't disrespected Dybala this much and renewed his contract with reasonable wages so that it ends when he's 30 or 31, we wouldn't have been in this mess. Now we must decide if it worths giving him a 5-year contract where he's 33 by the end of it or just lose him on free at his peak. On an IQ spectrum, Paratici the Director is the exact opposite of Paratici the scout.

 

[s4tch]

1. He is a free agent now. I don't see any club negotiating with him.
2. If there was a contract that both parties agreed on - he would have signed a new contract.

The management are evaluating him as a useful player that should stay but not at all cost. I like that.

1. exactly, we have zero ideas what kind of offers he has.
2. not if juve changes the terms after finding an agreement in all details (which was reported by multiple, fairly reliable journalists)

the management has no idea what they are doing. this is tici level of confusion: extending mandzukic then putting him on the market 4 months later. i don't like that.

 

[kao_ray]

2. not if juve changes the terms after finding an agreement in all details (which was reported by multiple, fairly reliable journalists)

the management has no idea what they are doing. this is tici level of confusion: extending mandzukic then putting him on the market 4 months later. i don't like that.

Even if you are right (and now we all know that those are only rumors) I still like that the management FINALLY are stepping in the right direction by offering Dybala a salary according to his performances in the last 4 seasons. Better late than never, right?

 

[Bianconero81]

The same management that can't get rid of other leechfucks, high earners, the same management that spent months negotiating for a player that actually wanted to join us

Fuck these incompetent tools.

 

[JCK]

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[Buck Fuddy]

Even if you are right (and now we all know that those are only rumors) I still like that the management FINALLY are stepping in the right direction by offering Dybala a salary according to his performances in the last 4 seasons. Better late than never, right?

That's the entire point.
Stay or leave, this situation should have been dealt with months ago.

Letting a player like Dybala leave for free would rank pretty high on our already impressive list of dumb decisions over the past few years.
Regardless of what you or anyone thinks about Dybala, he's a player that's actually worth quite a lot of money. Losing someone like that for free is just destroying capital. It's that simple.

 

[kao_ray]

It's that simple.

Well, it's not. Giving him a 4-5 year contract on 8 + 2 mil wages is a big risk for a 28 year old player who's notorious for inconsistency. It's a difficult situation and Dybala is not making it any less complicated.

 

[Strickland]

That's the entire point.
Stay or leave, this situation should have been dealt with months ago.

Letting a player like Dybala leave for free would rank pretty high on our already impressive list of dumb decisions over the past few years.
Regardless of what you or anyone thinks about Dybala, he's a player that's actually worth quite a lot of money. Losing someone like that for free is just destroying capital. It's that simple.

Signing him on a long term contract on ridiculous wages is destroying capital too. It's a lose-lose situation.