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Legend or Rookie? ***non-official poll***


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Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Nah. If you've watched Barca since Messi has been injured, their attacking play runs entirely through Neymar. Suarez has scored quite a few, mostly assisted by Neymar. In those 8 games Suarez has 9 goals-3 assists. Neymar has 11 goals-7 assists.

The player who sacrifices more of his game for Messi is Neymar. He takes a secondary role, when he's easily good enough to be the best player in any team in the world. This 8 game stretch, has been as productive as Messi's best 8 game stretch over the last 2 years. (12 goals-6 assists). Add to that, Barca finished the stretch with 7 wins-1 loss (the first game) and it's pretty clear that Neymar has the ability to play on the same level as Messi. The remaining question is whether he can do it consistently over a 50+ match season.
He cant, and i'll still prefer neymar cause fuck logic
 

CrimsonianKing

Count Mbangula
Jan 16, 2013
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He cant, and i'll still prefer neymar cause fuck logic
Yeah, probably not. People should not compare whatever comes now with whatever Messi/Ronaldo did. It was (Still is) a extraordinary thing that won't be seen again, maybe ever. It won't be fair.

Otherwise I'm gonna start expecting every new striker star to score as many goals as Romário and that just isn't fair neither.

And I too prefer Neymar, there's more to his game, skill wise at least. I look at Messi's face and the lack of passion and I get bored.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
I'm used to see the big players rise to the occasion in the big games.

Messi is like a computer that allmost certainly wins you the league. Keeping that "hot streak form" for the entire season, keeping that freshness the entire season. When playing a team that matches his and is well organised (to todays shit standard), he's still clinical as fuck, but not carrying.


But in a big game against an opponent with a strong organisation and potent defence, i would swap him immediatly for someone like Platini, Zidane, Maradona, Ronaldo(9), Romario,...

These players werent consistantly in hot form. But when there was a massive game, they'd be carrying the team and deciding it.

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@Zacheryah about your avatar,

how about dybala going doggystyle on barbara berlusconi?
nah, evil as in making most of his evil smile.


Go wild on evil genius or leader antagonists



For example Anakin in the fight scene with obi wan, or Hitler. Or whatever.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Yeah, probably not. People should not compare whatever comes now with whatever Messi/Ronaldo did. It was (Still is) a extraordinary thing that won't be seen again, maybe ever. It won't be fair.

Otherwise I'm gonna start expecting every new striker star to score as many goals as Romário and that just isn't fair neither.

And I too prefer Neymar, there's more to his game, skill wise at least. I look at Messi's face and the lack of passion and I get bored.
Zach's wrong there.

As a 22 year old last year Neymar scored 39, assisted 11, in 51 games(4080 minutes) for Barca, in CL, La Liga, Copa del Rey.

As a 22 year old Messi scored 42, assisted 13, in 49 games (4030 minutes) for Barca in CL, La Liga, Copa del Rey.

Production is almost identical. So I don't see why anyone would think Neymar couldn't play at that Messi level going forward. He's shown in the last 2 months that he can match the best of Messi and Ronaldo's form. All that's left is consistency and being giving the leading role in Barca's attack. He's easily good enough. Doesn't mean he will get there, but he's the only player currently playing that has the ability to.

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that -rep somehow turned out to be a +rep. :boh:

i knew you would help your german schweinehund. :heart:
now let's facesit on @CrimsonianKing.
I'll let you in on a little secret.

I pretty much always +rep someone when I say I will -rep them! :D

PS. I'm glad you didn't suffocate from that last face sitting you were given. That was quite the heffer
 

zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
51,816
How do you -rep someone?
look at someones post and see the black star next to the "!" sign and under the avatar, Join Date, Location etc. when you click on it, select "I disapprove" and write a message if you want

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Edit: if you want to try it out, do it on any post of @Fr3sh. this dude loves to get -repped
 

CrimsonianKing

Count Mbangula
Jan 16, 2013
27,314
Zach's wrong there.

As a 22 year old last year Neymar scored 39, assisted 11, in 51 games(4080 minutes) for Barca, in CL, La Liga, Copa del Rey.

As a 22 year old Messi scored 42, assisted 13, in 49 games (4030 minutes) for Barca in CL, La Liga, Copa del Rey.

Production is almost identical. So I don't see why anyone would think Neymar couldn't play at that Messi level going forward. He's shown in the last 2 months that he can match the best of Messi and Ronaldo's form. All that's left is consistency and being giving the leading role in Barca's attack. He's easily good enough. Doesn't mean he will get there, but he's the only player currently playing that has the ability to.

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I'll let you in on a little secret.

I pretty much always +rep someone when I say I will -rep them! :D

PS. I'm glad you didn't suffocate from that last face sitting you were given. That was quite the heffer
Messi move to Spain at a very young age and was raised at Barcelona, like Iniesta and Xavi he was taught to be the an important piece in an unbeatable system/philosophy. Like soldiers almost. That's why he was/is so good there and shit for Argentina. He was programmed like a computer to work for a specific ideology. Add that to his natural talent. That won't be seen again.

Neymar won't achieve those numbers not because he isn't good enough, his talent is not the problem, but because this Barcelona simply won't have the same consistency like Pepe's had, he had the perfect pieces for a puzzle nobody seemed to be able to solve. Sure, this Barcelona might have been showing to be good, breaking records and everything but it's more down to individual brilliance than a fluid perfect system that connects all the dots. You simply won't be able to replace Messi, Xavi and Iniesta. Ever.

Plus, Neymar won't stay forever. He will leave Barcelona when the time is right.
 

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