Paulo Dybala (112 Viewers)

[s4tch]

Nah.

Beginning of February last season Ronaldo had 20 something goals, all the others below including Dybala and Higuain barely combined for his tally.

Dybala scored 6 of his 11 goals in first 7 games post COVID restart last season. Then nothing again in the final 8. So his remaining 5 goals were scored in 23 games before COVID. 5G 7A in 23 games, decent for your average Serie A player, hardly decisive and crucial for us.

He also did not have 14 assists, counting FKs and PKs won as an assist is crazy. Penalties and FKs are also not 'won', they are mistakes from opposing players. If we are praising him for 'winning' penalties why do people blame our players when they concede a PK? Opposing player 'won' it.

He had 8 ast in total on the season.

i didn't even mention how many assists he had... anyway, the best part is this: Penalties and FKs are also not 'won', they are mistakes from opposing players. buddy, let's be real here, 99% of goals happen after defensive mistakes. forcing a defensive mistake is the essential point of the attacking phase of football, and the best attacking players are the best in their jobs because they are able to force those defending errors. of course players who draw more fouls deserve credit for it. it's a skill, and there's a reason why cuadrado and cr are better in it than berna or kulusevski: they are better attacking players. and if drawing fouls happen in the penalty area, that's definitely a decisive skill.

 

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[Zzak]

He's turning 28 at the end of the year and for a player of his style/build, that's past his prime.
He's been missing that extra hunger that he had when he first joined us and wanted to prove himself. I remember when he wrestled Parrollo and still managed to shoot and score while falling in the dying minutes of a Lazio game.

He's also lost a bit of pace and aggressiveness along the way. I would say 55 million would be a good deal for him considering the Covid situation. Would also give Kulu and Chiesa more playing time.
If we could invest that money in a solid midfielder then I would say it would be a win.

 

[JCK]

This has recently become the most boring thread ever on this forum.

 

[IlCapitano]

i didn't even mention how many assists he had... anyway, the best part is this: Penalties and FKs are also not 'won', they are mistakes from opposing players. buddy, let's be real here, 99% of goals happen after defensive mistakes. forcing a defensive mistake is the essential point of the attacking phase of football, and the best attacking players are the best in their jobs because they are able to force those defending errors. of course players who draw more fouls deserve credit for it. it's a skill, and there's a reason why cuadrado and cr are better in it than berna or kulusevski: they are better attacking players. and if drawing fouls happen in the penalty area, that's definitely a decisive skill.

It is pretty clear when a goal is scored from good team play and when it is a braindead mistake. Nobody is praising Benzema and Bale for 1st and 3rd goal in CL final, they crucified Karius.

Technically every goal is a mistake yes, you can always do better, but as I said it is clear when it is braindead and when it is team play.

Winning PKs and FKs is a pretty thin straw to hold on for someone who is supposed to be decisive. They are random, they are not something you can rely on consitently. Unless you are Ole and Man Utd ofc.

Same thing for a player scoring 6 in 7 games, then 5 in other 31. Not reliable, not consitent and not decisive for some time now.

 

[Valerio.]

See if we don't make a trade for Dybala.

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Barca to offer Griezmann for Dybala this summer (source: Goal)
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sadly he is on 1 and half year left of contract and we don't wanna renew for what he ask.

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I would trade him for Griezmann... if we don't need another winger/second striker

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• All'anno: 23.518.541,00 €

he gets 23.5m gross year so 11.75m/year but coming outside of Italy we would prolly pay 18m gross to give me the same net as he get at Barca

 

[Zzak]

Griezzman is 30, and past his prime as well. Not a good trade imo. Would be another Arthur - Pjanic where both team lose.

 

[Valerio.]

Griezzman is 30, and past his prime as well. Not a good trade imo. Would be another Arthur - Pjanic where both team lose.

problem is Dybala is running out of contract and asking double of his current wages
what does it suggest? that he wanna leave on a free deal or get sold for peanuts

 

[zizinho]

problem is Dybala is running out of contract and asking double of his current wages
what does it suggest? that he wanna leave on a free deal or get sold for peanuts

We should sell him outright and put the money for a midfielder. We don't need Griezmann either with Ronaldo here. We need mids. Sell Dybala, invest in Aouar

 

[Amer]

This trade is so going to happen because of them financial gymnastics, lul.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Getting Griezzman would be very stupid, with or without Dybala in the deal.

Selling Dybala, however, would be a good thing imo.

 

[DAiDEViL]

That french Fortnite choker

 

[Juve92]

WC winner, CL finalist (protagonist) and 3rd place in the Ballon D'or voting.

Griezmann > Dybala.

 

[Nzoric]

Getting Griezzman would be very stupid, with or without Dybala in the deal.

Selling Dybala, however, would be a good thing imo.

Grizzy would be perfect for this team man.

 

[Juve92]

No. Him being better than Dybala doesn't mean he will be a good fit for us. He is past his prime, just like our boy Dybala.

 

[IlCapitano]

Griezmann and Dybala play the same position and tactically we would have the same issues.

Griezz at his best is better than Dybala, but also earns double or triple of him rn.

Much rather sell Dybala and invest in a midfielder

 

[Dostoevsky]

Grizzy would be perfect for this team man.

He's gonna be 30 in a couple of days and he hasn't even scored much for Barca. Just like Pogba's case, it's not just his price, but his crazy high wages. I don't think he's worth it, especially since we'd have him for 3-4 seasons and that's about it. I'd rather invest in younger players.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Fuck Griezmann. This forum screams for grinta and then is ok with this thing at 30 years old and a more expensive contract?

Come on now.

 

[Bjerknes]

Griezmann and Dybala play the same position and tactically we would have the same issues.

Not exactly. Griez can play on the left side and as a central striker if needs be. Dybala is pretty much a left-sided attacker and that's it.

I don't put as much stake in Griez failing at Barca as others do. That club has been in disarray for a while and everything revolves around one player before, during, and after each match. Griez was excellent in Madrid and did well for France. If we had Allegri here, I would definitely take Griez as he would suit that type of football. Not sure how he would fit in with Pirlo, but he's still a good player.

I'm still unsure what I would do with Dybala. But his injuries and form issues are making my brain say sell.

 

[X Æ A-12]

Good and timely indeed. We're a much better team now

I guess i didn't think of how good and timely it is to sell Dybala this summer

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Griezzman is 30, and past his prime as well. Not a good trade imo. Would be another Arthur - Pjanic where both team lose.

It would be like the Pjanic - Arthur trade.

Good. Timely.

 

[Elvin]

Griezman is better than Dybala but we need younger and hungrier players. That aside, replacing one capricious player with another capricious player would be dumb.