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Juventino2019

Senior Member
May 1, 2019
530
We need to choose between Ronaldo and Dybala. We can't keep going like this next season.

Ronaldo is at his best with an actual 9 alongside him. A Physical presence type of 9. Either coming from the wing in a 4-4-3 or playing up front in a 4-4-2.

Dybala isn't a 9, he can't play on the wing and he can't play as part of a 4-4-2 midfield.

Dybala is 10 years younger, takes less money and imo the better player right now.

Have some balls and sell Ronaldo if you want to save the future of this club.
 

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sgjuveboy

Senior Member
Oct 31, 2012
2,723
Dybala should be the centre of our attack-to-be. Stop making the comparison with Del Piero. If we'll compare all attackers to come with Del Piero no-one will ever be good enough.
To be frank. Ronaldo is better than Del Pieri, simply by his hat trick against Athletico Madrid. Never in my dream would I ever imagine a Juve player has that much determination to prove doubters wrong and win a game single handedly that night. I’m not saying Juve players are mental midget. But there is something about our black and white jersey that stops players from performing magic. The only player that can do that is CR7 and that is why he is GOAT.

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We need to choose between Ronaldo and Dybala. We can't keep going like this next season.

Ronaldo is at his best with an actual 9 alongside him. A Physical presence type of 9. Either coming from the wing in a 4-4-3 or playing up front in a 4-4-2.

Dybala isn't a 9, he can't play on the wing and he can't play as part of a 4-4-2 midfield.

Dybala is 10 years younger, takes less money and imo the better player right now.

Have some balls and sell Ronaldo if you want to save the future of this club.
Ronaldo is actual more relevant to today’s football than Dybala. Speed strength and physique. The only Dybala-type player that is actually doing well is Messi, who has been dominating the farmers Spanish league. The problem with this type of player is there can only be one in a team and the team has to be built around him.

Dybala’s true potential will be realized when we have two quality midfielders protecting him and also taking attention away from him, to allow him space and time to work his magic.
 

Nedved96

Senior Member
Sep 1, 2017
7,198
We need to choose between Ronaldo and Dybala. We can't keep going like this next season.

Ronaldo is at his best with an actual 9 alongside him. A Physical presence type of 9. Either coming from the wing in a 4-4-3 or playing up front in a 4-4-2.

Dybala isn't a 9, he can't play on the wing and he can't play as part of a 4-4-2 midfield.

Dybala is 10 years younger, takes less money and imo the better player right now.

Have some balls and sell Ronaldo if you want to save the future of this club.
The uncomfortable fact that no one will talk about is that our gameplay has become progressively worse since Ronaldo joined our team.
 

Luca

Senior Member
Apr 22, 2007
12,749
The uncomfortable fact that no one will talk about is that our gameplay has become progressively worse since Ronaldo joined our team.
I don’t think you can really say Ronaldo is a sink hole in our side’s play. It’s flogging a dead horse at this point by repeating what we all know, but without having any attacking threat from a 3 man midfield all opposition have to do is double up on our front three and hope that there is no individual brilliance from our attackers.

We lack threat from midfield in both goal scoring instinct, and imaginative passing. Ramsey would have been good enough for the former, but we can’t rely on someone who is injured so much sadly.

Put our front 3 behind any trio of our 2015 midfield and it’d be raining goals so heavy we’d have to be donating them.

As much as I love De Ligt (and think he is the rarer talent) De Jong should have been the Ajax player we went for. Van Der Beek wouldn’t be a bad shout at this point either.
 

Adrian

Senior Member
Jan 31, 2003
6,872
we just need a manager who can make that final third work. Ronaldo and Dybala are givens as starters. Need to understand whether Higuain or Costa is that third player. And either one adds a completely different dynamic to that final third. I actually think Higuain playing as the cf with Dybala roaming behind and ronaldo roaming on the left would work well when you have Cuadrado at right back. But our midfield is so shit that we can rely on then to help hold the fort.

Dybala isn't a CF. He needs to run and and create. Under Allegri he started a season like no other has..scoring for fun..running at defenders from deeper positions and scoring great goals. That's what he is good at doing.

I really don't believe the Dybala or ronaldo theory.
 

LiquidPLP

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2012
12,237
If they had a proper midfield behind, everything would have looked differently. Yes, CR7 and Costa looked very bleak the past two games, Dybala on the other hand was very involved in the buildup, upfront nothing useful. So in general they all sucked but this is also down to midfield which is capable of winning the ball back but afterwards all they can do is play a ping pong at the back, slowly moving forward. This kind of game is always beneficial to the current Milan and Napoli, they like to give away the ball and sit back waiting for a counter.
 

Nedved96

Senior Member
Sep 1, 2017
7,198
Uncomfortable because it's bullshit.
Just because you don’t like it doesn’t make it uncomfortable.

Our football in 2016/17 and 2017/18 when the team was build around Dybala-Higuain up top was better than the football we have played since.

I also don’t believe that Dybala and Ronaldo can play together. I have seen enough. We have to pick one.
 

james95

Senior Member
Sep 2, 2018
1,024
Just because you don’t like it doesn’t make it uncomfortable.

Our football in 2016/17 and 2017/18 when the team was build around Dybala-Higuain up top was better than the football we have played since.

I also don’t believe that Dybala and Ronaldo can play together. I have seen enough. We have to pick one.
And the players in the midfield have gotten significantly worse since then. There’s no way you could believe simply having Higuain in place of Ronaldo magically fixes all the problems we have with creativity and fluidity. That would make no sense.
 

Nedved96

Senior Member
Sep 1, 2017
7,198
And the players in the midfield have gotten significantly worse since then. There’s no way you could believe simply having Higuain in place of Ronaldo magically fixes all the problems we have with creativity and fluidity. That would make no sense.
Of course.

Pjanic’s decline since 2018 is a big reason behind the decline of our play. Costa was also huge in 2017/18 and has been mostly injured since.

However, Dybala links up better with a real 9 like Higuain or Mandzukic than he does with another second striker like Ronaldo.

I still believe that the best attack we have had in this decade was Costa-Dybala-Higuain in 2017/18.
 
Jun 16, 2020
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Just because you don’t like it doesn’t make it uncomfortable.

Our football in 2016/17 and 2017/18 when the team was build around Dybala-Higuain up top was better than the football we have played since.

I also don’t believe that Dybala and Ronaldo can play together. I have seen enough. We have to pick one.
2017 was great. I’ll never forget the switch to 4231 after having a difficult start. It was so impressing how we crushed everybody after that. One of my favorite memories in the last 10 years.
 

james95

Senior Member
Sep 2, 2018
1,024
Of course.

Pjanic’s decline since 2018 is a big reason behind the decline of our play. Costa was also huge in 2017/18 and has been mostly injured since.

However, Dybala links up better with a real 9 like Higuain or Mandzukic than he does with another second striker like Ronaldo.

I still believe that the best attack we have had in this decade was Costa-Dybala-Higuain in 2017/18.
Fair enough, but I’m of the belief that great players can always play with each other. Maybe Dybala & Ronaldo may not be the most perfect of combinations but they’re really not helped by the rest of the team. They would look a lot better with a functional midfield behind them. The 16-18 Juve midfield was better.
 

IlCapitano

Senior Member
Dec 16, 2012
5,614
Just because you don’t like it doesn’t make it uncomfortable.

Our football in 2016/17 and 2017/18 when the team was build around Dybala-Higuain up top was better than the football we have played since.

I also don’t believe that Dybala and Ronaldo can play together. I have seen enough. We have to pick one.
Midfield has gotten progressively worse, our wingers have been either injured or shit and we had to stop playing 4-2-3-1 because Dybala didn't like it all of a sudden.

CR also links up better with a real #9 than someone like Dybala. If we're picking one it's not even close, Dybala is/should be gone.

He doesn't have to be, if he'd sacrifice more and be happy about it like earlier under Allegri CR, Dybala and a hard working #9 could work really well.
 
Jun 16, 2020
12,435
Midfield has gotten progressively worse, our wingers have been either injured or shit and we had to stop playing 4-2-3-1 because Dybala didn't like it all of a sudden.

CR also links up better with a real #9 than someone like Dybala. If we're picking one it's not even close, Dybala is/should be gone.

He doesn't have to be, if he'd sacrifice more and be happy about it like earlier under Allegri CR, Dybala and a hard working #9 could work really well.
I think Dybala and Ronaldo could work if we would play 4231 with a 9, Ronaldo on the left and Dybala trequartista.
 

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