Paulo Dybala (157 Viewers)

[Xperd]

Doesn't matter. We are swapping one unwanted player for another. Both are unwanted at their respective clubs.

This is just poor business tbh. You give him the #10, make him your golden boy and then swap him for Lukaku a couple of years later without even giving him an opportunity to see what he can do under a new manager.

This entire situation reflects very poorly on the Juventus management

 

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[Patrizi]

We're forgetting the Lukaku "flop" came during an awful period of ManU football. Under Mourinho and under the clueless amateur manager they have now. Has he shown bad touch? Sure. But he also showed 3-4 years of being a worldclass forward at Everton and even recently for Belgium against the best of the best in Europe.

We know he's in a bad system that has even made Pogba look average. And Lukaku is the same age as Dybala. Am I thrilled by the rumored swap? No. But let's not ignore the fact Lukaku was a emerging top striker before going to a defensive Mourinho side and then getting to play for the Reserves manager.

Putting aside all the emotions of this deal. Ronaldo - Lukaku - Costa has a lot of everything to succeed. Football is changing fast. Players like Dybala are nice to watch but it's about the athleticism nowadays. Having said that, a lot depends of if we're able to get Lukaku back to same form he was in couple of years ago. But the same could be said about Dybala.

 

[Xperd]

I think its pretty clear its all about the tax law. Everyone we are bringing in is from outside of Italy. I think thats why we abandoned Icardi.After we clean house and start the new team with a new coach and everything else we should have a ton of money because of it

Yes and this why we are bringing fodders like Danilo as well because we want to take advantage of the tax law

Makes sense

 

[KB824]

We're forgetting the Lukaku "flop" came during an awful period of ManU football. Under Mourinho and under the clueless amateur manager they have now. Has he shown bad touch? Sure. But he also showed 3-4 years of being a worldclass forward at Everton and even recently for Belgium against the best of the best in Europe.

We know he's in a bad system that has even made Pogba look average. And Lukaku is the same age as Dybala. Am I thrilled by the rumored swap? No. But let's not ignore the fact Lukaku was a emerging top striker before going to a defensive Mourinho side and then getting to play for the Reserves manager.

And prior to this past season what was Dybala emerging as?

And that is the whole point. Dybala has skills that Lukaku can only dream of, and we are throwing him out for a forward who doesnt' fit Sarri's system just so we can save money on the new tax laws. This is beyond ridiculous.

 

[Valerio.]

Yes and this why we are bringing fodders like Danilo as well because we want to take advantage of the tax law

Makes sense

there is so much to choose from....
Reality is we want to sell Cancelo for 50m+ nobody offering that much but City could if they can offload Danilo.
We should refuse.
We fucking need Jeep Renewal how long are they waiting for??

 

[Clamarc]

Holy shit some people actually rate Lukaku and even said he's world class?
Lol clueless

 

[Jethro]

Is this really happening?

 

[Knowah]

Doesn't matter. We are swapping one unwanted player for another. Both are unwanted at their respective clubs.

This is just poor business tbh. You give him the #10, make him your golden boy and then swap him for Lukaku a couple of years later without even giving him an opportunity to see what he can do under a new manager.

This entire situation reflects very poorly on the Juventus management

I agree 100% the optics are bad. Giving him the #10 to let him go. But it also was a rash decision and very kneejerk. He showed great class when we first signed him but things changed when we signed Ronaldo and he wasn't the centerpiece of our attack suddenly. I think the optics are awful for our management, no doubt.

But Dybala did himself no favors. He fell apart, his confidence collapsed and he barely looked the part of a backup striker. He was muscled off of every ball, lost possession constantly and his individual performances were AWFUL. The individual performances have nothing to do with Allegri's system that failed us. That was 80-90% on Dybala. He looked awful. Shit, there were times last year where he exhibited the same THE EXACT SAME first touch that people mocking Lukaku for. He lost possession constantly last year, especially in the final third. That's not a system failure. That's an individual performance failure. And it wasn't a one-time thing last year. It was constant to the point he wasn't even considered an option in attack and yet people were like "put Dybala in" only for him to get a chance a few matches later and bungle possession or play 75 minutes with no shots, no goals, and turnovers like crazy.

In the Allegri system where we were starved for creative attackers Dybala played HIMSELF out of the system. Think about that. We were starved for creativity and attacking prowess and Dybala played himself out of the system.

 

[KB824]

Yes and this why we are bringing fodders like Danilo as well because we want to take advantage of the tax law

Makes sense

Why else if not this? They somehow believe that Lukaku and Danilo are better than Dybala and Cancelo? OF course they don't. But they are going to cost a LOT less in gross salary with the new laws. Ronaldo is being paid under the old tax system, so it is a major hinderance. Which is why they needed to win the CL for more than just the trophy last year. They wouldn't be breaking this group up if they won it. That was potentially hundreds of millions in revenue lost.

 

[Knowah]

And prior to this past season what was Dybala emerging as?

And that is the whole point. Dybala has skills that Lukaku can only dream of, and we are throwing him out for a forward who doesnt' fit Sarri's system just so we can save money on the new tax laws. This is beyond ridiculous.

Agreed, Dybala also was looking worldclass. I don't want the sale, I want to se him succeed in Sarri's system but I also don't think it's insane to see some reasons why a deal for Lukaku (definitely not one where we send money) works. I think the deal as currently rumored is awful. Should be Lukaku and 30m+ at least.

 

[Juve92]

I'm no Dybala fan but ffs, NO Dybala - Lukaku swap..

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Doesn't matter. We are swapping one unwanted player for another. Both are unwanted at their respective clubs.

This is just poor business tbh. You give him the #10, make him your golden boy and then swap him for Lukaku a couple of years later without even giving him an opportunity to see what he can do under a new manager.

This entire situation reflects very poorly on the Juventus management

This. I think Dybala deserved an opportunity with Sarri but honestly at this point I’m like Fuck it. Just want the season to start then we can start analyzing what we did right... or wrong. It might be the season we lose our throne as kings of Serie A or we might finally win the CL. We’ll see.

 

[Xperd]

 

[Inglip]

Paratici is an idiot, this is worse than the Amauri deal.

 

[edgardavids2608]

Yes and this why we are bringing fodders like Danilo as well because we want to take advantage of the tax law

Makes sense

Do you know how much we are saying with all these wages? I think personally(and I very well could be wrong0 that we are about to make a big splash if we can free up enough wages and also sell a few big money guys like Cancelo,Dybala,Higuain. If we sell Dybala and Cancelo only to bring in Lukaku and Danillo I would agree that this is looking like a shit show

 

[JUVEMOOD]

was there any polls on this transfer
That would be interesting to see



And how to see polls from mobiles?


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[s4tch]

It's not just Dybala leaving, it's Dybala for Lukaku that appalls some tuzers like me

and let's not forget the price either. lukaku is nowhere near a 80m striker, not even on this inflated market. splashing the potential dybala money on lukaku makes no sense at all.

 

[Xperd]

Do you know how much we are saying with all these wages? I think personally(and I very well could be wrong0 that we are about to make a big splash if we can free up enough wages and also sell a few big money guys like Cancelo,Dybala,Higuain. If we sell Dybala and Cancelo only to bring in Lukaku and Danillo I would agree that this is looking like a shit show

Which is exactly what is going to happen

This notion of selling Dybala and Cancelo just so we can bring in another WC player is horribly misplaced

Lukaku and Danilo while giving away Dybala and Cancelo for nominal fees
will be a shitshow of biblical proportions

 

[JuveJay]

I think it pretty much follows United's record against the top 6, so to be taken with a pinch of salt, if not direct causality. United are shit.

I've never really fancied Lukaku to do well in Serie A. I know back in the day some would say that he'd come in and ragdoll all the weak Serie A defenders because he plays in big boys physical league etc, but his first touch is often so shit he's quite limited to the roll and run/shoot. That said, it is very hard to stop once he's in that rhythm. At Everton he was a behemoth. But generally I think he's just a bit too big, and how is he going to suit Sarriball? He can only work as a focal point, he can't play as a two way man like Higuain can.

Ideal world Kean would have stayed but it's clear he was not going to renew without guarantees.

 

[JCK]

The club has lost its way