Paulo Dybala (172 Viewers)

[Nedved96]

@zizinho
If you really think that xGoals is not good data, then explain this:

Man City, PSG, Barcelona and Bayern all had the highest chance creation in their respective leagues last season. They also all won their domestic leagues.

Juventus is the odd one out. According to the same data, Napoli created significantly more and better chances than us last season, but we had much better finishing.

So either:

1. The people who keep this data hate Juve and have an agenda against us.

2. Our play under Allegri was poor and we overly relied on individual brilliance, which the eye test confirms.

Any rational person will pick option (2)

You will pick option (1) because you are in denial of reality, and that reality is that we severely struggled to create chances in the last two years of Allegri.

 

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If you can’t accept the data, then that’s your problem, not mine.

Our play under Allegri was shit, and evidently the board agree, which is why they sacked him.

If you can't accept the data, then that's your problem, not mine.

Chelsea's play under Sarri was shit, and evidently their board agree, which is why they are sacking him. (and replacing with Lampard )

 

[zizinho]

Your 1st mistake ia analizing football through data. Its useful for taking a look at it once in a blue moon and saying oh look, this is interesting. Anything further is a waste of time

 

[Post Ironic]

Your 1st mistake ia analizing football through data. Its useful for taking a look at it once in a blue moon and saying oh look, this is interesting. Anything further is a waste of time

Add to that he only cherrypicks what supports his argument, as always.

 

[Nedved96]

Your 1st mistake ia analizing football through data.

Wrong. I watch football, that’s why I know that we haven’t played good football under Allegri in the last two years.

The data merely supports my point of view.

 

[zizinho]

Add to that he only cherrypicks what supports his argument, as always.

Thats classic Neddy to you. Luckily, we are here to expose his BS

 

[s4tch]

@zizinho
If you really think that xGoals is not good data, then explain this:

Man City, PSG, Barcelona and Bayern all had the highest chance creation in their respective leagues last season. They also all won their domestic leagues.

Juventus is the odd one out. According to the same data, Napoli created significantly more and better chances than us last season, but we had much better finishing.

So either:

1. The people who keep this data hate Juve and have an agenda against us.

2. Our play under Allegri was poor and we overly relied on individual brilliance, which the eye test confirms.

Any rational person will pick option (2)

You will pick option (1) because you are in denial of reality, and that reality is that we severely struggled to create chances in the last two years of Allegri.

defenses win serie a. you're welcome.

 

[zizinho]

Wrong. I watch football, that’s why I know that we haven’t played good football under Allegri in the last two years.

The data merely supports my point of view.

I agree with you for majority of this season actually, but you used data for last season only

 

[Nedved96]

I agree with you for majority of this season actually, but you used data for last season only

I think you have a glorified memory of what last season was like.

But at least we’ve found some middle ground.

 

[Vlad]

defenses win serie a. you're welcome.

Yup, over the years people were saying Roma plays better brand of football, a waay back it was Lazio with one of their strongest sides led by Nedved, Parma, Inter, now we have Napoli. The only constant here is Juventus remaining at the top. Surely if all these sides throughout the years have created more, played better brand of football, it would have reflected on their results...

 

[JCK]

It's going to be interesting to see what Conte does with him. Cappocanoniere?

 

[Mister]

 

[il brutto]

You proved with your initial post that you dont know what quality chances are, the stats are probably made by guys with similar wisdom

I would assume they are solely based on certain zones. These kind of stats should always be taken with a pinch of salt, but they can be indicative.

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If you can’t accept the data, then that’s your problem, not mine.

Our play under Allegri was shit, and evidently the board agree, which is why they sacked him.

No data should be accepted without some scrutiny. Data is made by people and it may be skewed for various reasons. We don't even know what the parameters are when considering scoring chances.

We have no clue why the board decided to sack Allegri, we might never know the real reason. It's pretty crazy that you try to make the debate factual, when in fact most of the time when talking about football such a thing is impossible unless we only look at the results (final scorelines, trophies won etc.). Then suddenly you make a completely subjective claim on how our play was "shit" and the board agreed with you. We have no clue what the board thought.

 

[.zero]

If you can’t accept the data, then that’s your problem, not mine.

Our play under Allegri was shit, and evidently the board agree, which is why they sacked him.

He wasn't fired. Both parties mutually parted ways. He wanted extra years on his deal. The club wanted to go year-to-year.

 

[Fr3sh]

Edmonton Oilers.

I'm a bit of a strange bird, my favorite sport growing up was basketball. Now I am mostly into Hockey and Football, needless to say I don't get to talk to too many people here about either sport at its highest level.

Eh!! That's where me and my are based in!! Can't wait to go back home, really miss the city!

Welcome to Tuz!! Hopefully you'll bring us good luck unlike these ill will bearers, bad luck bringers, pigeon sacrificing cl final sabotaging cunts like @Kyle

 

[Stephan]

Player swaps rarely happen.

 

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Eh!! That's where me and my are based in!! Can't wait to go back home, really miss the city!

Welcome to Tuz!! Hopefully you'll bring us good luck unlike these ill will bearers, bad luck bringers, pigeon sacrificing cl final sabotaging cunts like @Kyle

The truly sad part is your complete unwillingness to use your god like jinx powers to help Juventus win games. Incredibly self centered but I guess even if you were willing you'd probably spend all the money on weed and whale blubber first.

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Player swaps rarely happen.

Even less so when it would involve a sought after world class player like Dybala for some reason agreeing to downgrade to Inter.

 

[Fr3sh]

The truly sad part is your complete unwillingness to use your god like jinx powers to help Juventus win games. Incredibly self centered but I guess even if you were willing you'd probably spend all the money on weed and whale blubber first.

 

[Adrian]

After watching those 26 goals it makes me wonder two things..what the fuck has hapoened to him this season and two why the Fuck would you want this talent out of your team.

Still not sure what his beat role in the team is though.

 

[Juve_fanatic]

Dybala is the only player im looking forward to see play under a new coach.