Paul Pogba (192 Viewers)

[JCK]

Ibrahimovic had a great career in spite of Mino. If he had been able to focus on one club just a bit more, he would probably have become a legend. Because Zlatan was insanely good and he got very lucky a few times, he still had a great career. But look at what Mino is doing to Pogba. He just wants to sell him over and over again and earn millions every time he does.

But it's not entirely on Raiola to be sold multiple times to pocket bonuses. If the player is not willing to change so many clubs Raiola would not force them. Look at Nedved, hís agent was Raiola, hell he played in Serie B when he had so much left to offer.

 

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[Gep]

Any opportunity Mino has to wh0re his players around he will. It’s agents like him which are killing the game. No respect, just greed.

 

[Kopanja]

But it's not entirely on Raiola to be sold multiple times to pocket bonuses. If the player is not willing to change so many clubs Raiola would not force them. Look at Nedved, hís agent was Raiola, hell he played in Serie B when he had so much left to offer.

pretty much this. Raiola is a loudmouth, and his main interest is money(supplies.gif), but I think he is a good agent.

And I don't see a problem when some oldtimer dishes out on Pogba(especially on something ephemeric like leadership, courage, passion etv.), and Raiola comes back at him.
I am pretty sure Pogba wants to come back at someone like Neville himself, but he can't, because of the uproar.

 

[Seven]

I doubt you can blame this all on Raiola. Raiola may be the greedy, obnoxious mouth piece but if he was just stirring shit up, without Labile's approval, people wouldn't use him as an agent.

But it's not entirely on Raiola to be sold multiple times to pocket bonuses. If the player is not willing to change so many clubs Raiola would not force them. Look at Nedved, hís agent was Raiola, hell he played in Serie B when he had so much left to offer.

No, of course it's not all on Raiola. The player has a big part in it too. But obviously Raiola is still a cunt, which really was all I was saying.

 

[IlCapitano]

That's BS. He is an agent and does what his players approve of. Ibra said in his book he immediately called him in 2006. and told him to get him out of Juve asap. Other than that there were never rumors of him shopping Ibra to other clubs. He was Nedved's agent his whole career. Matuidi spent a lot of time at PSG without any troubles etc. Don't recall much drama with Pogba and Juve until the summer he left which all sides agreed to and benefited from that whole saga.

Pogba maybe isn't telling him to say specific stuff but is telling him he's unhappy, wouldn't mind this or that, etc.

 

[pavluska]

Well, first thing is his comments don't concern me that much, he was a kid, and MU is indeed his home.

Sorry, but 50 shades of cuckold.

And keeping a grudge against a kid is not the smartest thing to do either.

lol

And yeah, I admire him much more, but as a football player. He grew, and he will do whatever team needs him to do.

As a football player, he's less than half the player compared to what he was with us.

 

[Kopanja]

Sorry, but 50 shades of cuckold.

The hell it even means?

As a football player, he's less than half the player compared to what he was with us.

Really? And how had you measured this?
WC ended just a month ago, and he was terrific. It was the best version of Pogba I've ever seen. Evidently not the flashiest version, youtube-highlights fans might be disappointed, but super effective.
He ground every game, didn't throw tantrums, and was a leader on the pitch.
Him failing at MU doesn't mean much (it was only seconde game of a season btw), it's a complete meltdown, no player saves them.

 

[Seven]

The hell it even means?

I think that if you look it up, you'll find that it is something you are into.

 

[Kopanja]

I think that if you look it up, you'll find that it is something you are into.

you got me there man, caught me with pants down

 

[s4tch]

That's BS. He is an agent and does what his players approve of.

exactly. is he a cunt? who cares. will he act without consulting his client? no way, he'd be fired immediately.

i hated raiola for the pogba transfer, and i was completely wrong. obviously every involved party wanted that transfer.

 

[Seven]

That's BS. He is an agent and does what his players approve of. Ibra said in his book he immediately called him in 2006. and told him to get him out of Juve asap. Other than that there were never rumors of him shopping Ibra to other clubs. He was Nedved's agent his whole career. Matuidi spent a lot of time at PSG without any troubles etc. Don't recall much drama with Pogba and Juve until the summer he left which all sides agreed to and benefited from that whole saga.

Pogba maybe isn't telling him to say specific stuff but is telling him he's unhappy, wouldn't mind this or that, etc.

Lol. His players are children. They are 20-somethings ffs.

 

[IlCapitano]

Lol. His players are children. They are 20-somethings ffs.

I just counted several who are in their 30s. Pogba is 25, hardly a child. Other than Donnarumma who had problems with Milan what other client of his that is super young got in trouble for rumors and Raiola's statements?

He is their employee, not the other way around. He does what they want him to do. Are his methods over the top sometimes? Ofc, but if people he represents had problems with them he wouldn't represent them anymore.

You basically have Pogba and Donnarumma as problematic cases. Every other high profile client of his was completely normal.

 

[pavluska]

The hell it even means?



Really? And how had you measured this?
WC ended just a month ago, and he was terrific. It was the best version of Pogba I've ever seen. Evidently not the flashiest version, youtube-highlights fans might be disappointed, but super effective.
He ground every game, didn't throw tantrums, and was a leader on the pitch.
Him failing at MU doesn't mean much (it was only seconde game of a season btw), it's a complete meltdown, no player saves them.

WC is a summer tournament composed of max 7 games.

In half them, he was in MU form (group stages), in the other half he played as well as he did for us. It wasn't the best version of Pogba, it was the Juve version.

MU form doesn't count when that's where he played 35+ games a year and this is his third one? Why are you only counting the 2nd game of THIS season? That makes no sense.

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exactly. is he a cunt? who cares. will he act without consulting his client? no way, he'd be fired immediately.

i hated raiola for the pogba transfer, and i was completely wrong. obviously every involved party wanted that transfer.

Raiola works for his client and its not the other way around, but he sure can influence his clients. Fergie said as much.

 

[Kopanja]

In half them, he was in MU form (group stages), in the other half he played as well as he did for us. It wasn't the best version of Pogba, it was the Juve version.

So he is not the half player he was with us, isn't he?
Ok, your feelings are hurt, because of the "holiday" comments, it doesn't change his prowess as the player. Let's end it, ok?
I'm too drunk already, so I'll go take my wife and google for "cuckold something" you told me before.

 

[edgardavids2608]

Lol. His players are children. They are 20-somethings ffs.

What does that matter? They cant handle their own career? Its important to remember that every player wants differnt things and there are rewards from moving clubs if you are a player. If the player wants that Rino does it

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WC is a summer tournament composed of max 7 games.

In half them, he was in MU form (group stages), in the other half he played as well as he did for us. It wasn't the best version of Pogba, it was the Juve version.

MU form doesn't count when that's where he played 35+ games a year and this is his third one? Why are you only counting the 2nd game of THIS season? That makes no sense.

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Raiola works for his client and its not the other way around, but he sure can influence his clients. Fergie said as much.

The clubs also influence players so its a battle. Obviously the club wants you to not complain and get paid as little as possible.

 

[Klin]

He's literally the anti juve

 

[Jethro]

 

[Nzoric]

Oh wow

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[Post Ironic]

And people blame Mourinho for Pogba's struggles. Mou has turned into a mediocre coach, but that display is on Paul, 100%. One of the worst performances I've ever seen from a world class CM. lost the ball 27 times between poor passes, touches, and being dispossessed.

I can hardly imagine the meltdown in Pjanic's thread if he had a match even close to that disastrous. We'd be back to net negative on the pitch, and half the forum wanting him sold.

 

[j0ker]

Holy shit.