You have quite a point there, but should we pass up the opportunity like we are holier than thou or use it to our advantage? I know what 
would do.
would do.
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He would be a good addition, self respect aside... but if we could only have one (Pogback isn't even realistic anyway) I would take SMS easily
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I think the bust up with Bonucci was genuine, which is why he was sold so effortlessly.
Not sure I can blame Dybala, he is young and probably hates being subbed off but he seems to be growing in that regard. Alves is a cunt and acted that way everywhere he has gone and I don't think its fair to cast Max, if even partially, into that blame.
Licht was on a decline, if there was an issue with him being removed from the CL list he probably would have left last season when it happened the first time.
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I don't think there is anyone here (aside from Fresh) that wouldn't take SMS OVER Pobga.
Pretty sure most of us want SMS over any one right now lol
Not sure I can blame Dybala, he is young and probably hates being subbed off but he seems to be growing in that regard. Alves is a cunt and acted that way everywhere he has gone and I don't think its fair to cast Max, if even partially, into that blame.
Licht was on a decline, if there was an issue with him being removed from the CL list he probably would have left last season when it happened the first time.
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I don't think there is anyone here (aside from Fresh) that wouldn't take SMS OVER Pobga.
Pretty sure most of us want SMS over any one right now lol
A lot of speculations, but:
If Pogba wants a return(likely), we should be really open to the idea and try our best to facilitate it or at least entertain it (on our terms). Should United play hardball and say no - we lose nothing here and its all on them. If Pogba doesn't slay dragons in the WC - this 'cheap' shot from would be the only option, other than having an unhappy player with astronomical depreciation, unhappy sponsor and mediocre perfomances.
If Pogba wants a return(likely), we should be really open to the idea and try our best to facilitate it or at least entertain it (on our terms). Should United play hardball and say no - we lose nothing here and its all on them. If Pogba doesn't slay dragons in the WC - this 'cheap' shot from
would be the only option, other than having an unhappy player with astronomical depreciation, unhappy sponsor and mediocre perfomances.
All this Pogba talk...but can we really afford his salary? and what about the commercial loss for adidas? Its clearly more beneficial for adidas for him to be at manu or atleast madrid
He was pretty much the centre of their new world cup ad along with messi which had some 30 players and celebs in it
He was pretty much the centre of their new world cup ad along with messi which had some 30 players and celebs in it
Actually I think Fresco is anti-Pogs. Osman I believe prefers the dabber.
The United part is what makes it unrealistic imo. They'll have to take a big loss on him for it to be feasible.
That and his wages
A lot of speculations, but:
If Pogba wants a return(likely), we should be really open to the idea and try our best to facilitate it or at least entertain it (on our terms). Should United play hardball and say no - we lose nothing here and its all on them. If Pogba doesn't slay dragons in the WC - this 'cheap' shot from would be the only option, other than having an unhappy player with astronomical depreciation, unhappy sponsor and mediocre perfomances.
If Pogba wants a return(likely), we should be really open to the idea and try our best to facilitate it or at least entertain it (on our terms). Should United play hardball and say no - we lose nothing here and its all on them. If Pogba doesn't slay dragons in the WC - this 'cheap' shot from
would be the only option, other than having an unhappy player with astronomical depreciation, unhappy sponsor and mediocre perfomances.
That and his wages
Do not want. Only way I'd accept him back is if he paid me, and raiola was my agent and frauds me into a top league club
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I don't want Pogba AT ALL!! Wouldn't even take him back on a free, fuck that nigga!!
Don't know where you got me wanting that fuck up back here
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bro i wanted him sold when he was here
the second he took that #10 shirt he died in my eyes
then when he added that +5 shit, I buried him in my head
Then came vacation talks, dude never even existed
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I don't want Pogba AT ALL!! Wouldn't even take him back on a free, fuck that nigga!!
Don't know where you got me wanting that fuck up back here
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bro i wanted him sold when he was here
the second he took that #10 shirt he died in my eyes
then when he added that +5 shit, I buried him in my head
Then came vacation talks, dude never even existed
How can they avoid the loss? They can only minimize it.
United spend around 190M on him - fees and 5 year contract, right? Two years on - they are at ~115M book value now. Loan fee (covering united part of wages for this year and a portion of the sale - 15-25M) and an obligation/option for 60-70M end of the/next year, depending on pre-agreement between Juve and Pogba.
United makes almost no losses or considerably less, than if it drags for another year. If we go by his performances so far - it would only get worse for them.
United spend around 190M on him - fees and 5 year contract, right? Two years on - they are at ~115M book value now. Loan fee (covering united part of wages for this year and a portion of the sale - 15-25M) and an obligation/option for 60-70M end of the/next year, depending on pre-agreement between Juve and Pogba.
United makes almost no losses or considerably less, than if it drags for another year. If we go by his performances so far - it would only get worse for them.
With Pep or Mourinho being the boss - 'they don't need the money' is a myth. If it's up to Mourinho he would gladly buy 5 top players each year, while giving space to the youngsters.
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We if he could be the main guy in Madrid that would be swell. Being benched doesn't help Adidas too much though. Sponsoring athletes that not only fail to perform, but attract unwanted attention are the last thing in Adidas's wish list. Otherwise they might just sponsor Mino and save a lot of hassle and cash.
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We if he could be the main guy in Madrid that would be swell. Being benched doesn't help Adidas too much though. Sponsoring athletes that not only fail to perform, but attract unwanted attention are the last thing in Adidas's wish list. Otherwise they might just sponsor Mino and save a lot of hassle and cash.
I don't really think Adidas has that much to say on the matter. Pogba will be marketable even if he plays in Juve, and United would in case Pogba left, probably get another hyped/top quality/marketable midfielder.
EDIT: Your point on the salary part is spot on. Would he be willing to slash it? Wouldn't other clubs like PSG be willing to pay him top dollar in case he wanted out?
You don't really put future salary costs on the book like that. His book value will (assuming linear depreciation) be the cost of acquisition (price, one time fees to agents, player etc.) times the fraction of time left on his contract. Sure, they would save future wage expenses by selling him, but accounting-wise it is not recorded that way. Was the price 110? And 3 years left of a 5 year contract? If so, he will probably be on the books at about 65 million €. But, i don't really think his book value matters too much in this case, United are really well off financially, so even IF they would sell him, his price would probably depend on the market: how many similar players of type/quality are potentially on the market, and how many clubs are looking at a player like that, and in turn what are these clubs willing to pay.
I think you are right. All the Pogba talk is probably just media spinning way to much on the fact he has not performed optimally for them this season.
EDIT: Your point on the salary part is spot on. Would he be willing to slash it? Wouldn't other clubs like PSG be willing to pay him top dollar in case he wanted out?
You don't really put future salary costs on the book like that. His book value will (assuming linear depreciation) be the cost of acquisition (price, one time fees to agents, player etc.) times the fraction of time left on his contract. Sure, they would save future wage expenses by selling him, but accounting-wise it is not recorded that way. Was the price 110? And 3 years left of a 5 year contract? If so, he will probably be on the books at about 65 million €. But, i don't really think his book value matters too much in this case, United are really well off financially, so even IF they would sell him, his price would probably depend on the market: how many similar players of type/quality are potentially on the market, and how many clubs are looking at a player like that, and in turn what are these clubs willing to pay.
I think you are right. All the Pogba talk is probably just media spinning way to much on the fact he has not performed optimally for them this season.
Agreed on the books part, I was trying for a simple(r) picture of what costs associate with him would be and why I don't think Man U would make such an intolerable loss. His book value is why people consider United to be making a huge loss, no?
I personally disagree with the notion of book value being too important as well, but even if United are epic financially - not a lot of reasons not to cash on him. If they were to complete the
6 signings they are reported to make - he might not be even starting 11. More importantly should they keep him its >45M per year, surely no team can pay as much for squad members and live.
I personally disagree with the notion of book value being too important as well, but even if United are epic financially - not a lot of reasons not to cash on him. If they were to complete the
6 signings they are reported to make - he might not be even starting 11. More importantly should they keep him its >45M per year, surely no team can pay as much for squad members and live.