Paul Pogba (195 Viewers)

How many minutes will he play for jj in 23-24 season?


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zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
51,816
OH please. Insigne and Hamsik are nowhere near the world class players Vidal, Pirlo, Marchisio are and were... Pogba has been spoiled silly with who he has gotten to play with up to the first 3 months of this past season. And then he played like shit.

Of course there are reasons for his poor performances. There are reasons for every players poor performances. But your bias is so unbelievably strong for Pogba that he seems to be the only one who always deserves the benefit of the doubt when he is rubbish. "It's the team's fault." Or maybe Pogba isn't that consistent world-beater you think he is quite yet. Nor should he be. Few players outside guys like Messi and Ronaldo are.
you are again mixing things. Insigne and Hamsik (and Callejon since he joined for that matter) have been putting up top assist numbers for years in Napoli so you cant claim their numbers are only great because of Higuain. Higuain was in brilliant form this season, he was scoring like crazy but without a functional team with great creators behind him he couidnt have done it. its that simple. the team was ticking so well, its why they have been our contenders for so long.

about Pogba, im gonna explain it one last time, if you still insist on this bs i give up. Pogba was out of form since his injury in February/March the season before and didnt catch form again when he returned. THAT Pogba was put into a mess of a team that had several new players incoming. do you remember what was the situation in our team at the beginning of the season? we lost Pirlo, Vidal, Tevez, we had Barzagli and Licht out injured at different times, we got Sandro, Cuadrado, Lemina and Hernanes very late, Asamoah, Mandzukic, Khedira, Morata, Pereyra were also injured at different points in the opening months. we were reduced to a team that had to play Padoin as the regista with Pereyra/Sturaro next to him and Pogba because we had starters and the 1st alternative out and our replacements arrived very late. we were also struggling to find the correct formation and were changing between 3-4 formations. now, do you notice any similarities between this midfield and the France one at the Euro? im sure you do, but you will ofcourse ignore it to bash Pogba since it looks like hes leaving. Padoin, Sturaro, Kante, Matuidi, Sissoko, none of these guys can hold the midfield and organize the play the way a Marchisio does. or even a Montolivo. they are all pretty much terrible passers that are useless on offense (apart from Sissoko and his runs down the flank). the entire load of the midfields offense was on Pogba, he had to carry the team. i dont even know why you take that as an example for him, it was so obvious that the team was struggling in all areas. once we got our injured key players back, once we found a working formation and once the guys that arrived late found a place into the formation, the entire team started playing better. if you watched Pjanic for his NT youd notice a similar thing, hes the guy thats expected to do everything playing next to technically limited players so he almost always underperforms. you cant expect from a mid to carry the entire teams offense on his shoulders, thats just too easy to defend against and thus you get what you saw in the opening games. as soon as he got help, he performed better, and thats the Pogba you should be judging, not the out-of-form-playing-in-a-mess-team one
 

Siamak

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Aug 13, 2013
18,380
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. There's an unknown and it's that person. It looks like someone with dark short hair, and they're definitely the tallest in the tunnel

Edit: Also at 10 seconds you see those Adidas boots that Pogba wears; in the UTD ad, he is wearing those same boots in the same color
it was for adidas shoes, featured a Manchester player and included Pogba.
 

Collaguazo

Pezuña Brava
Mar 4, 2012
3,610
What I think is that Pogba commercial was shot long ago WITHOUT United logo in it but now that he's touted to return , I think theyre turning this into an elaborate marketing campaign.

He's planning to make a James-esque return or something and surprise all the fans.
You mean a James Bond entrance? Probably jump from a helicopter on top of old traford, Ferguson grand stand, and then rappel to the pitch dressed as a red devil. Then in front of 70k screaming fans, he takes off the costume and he is wearing tux.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
you are again mixing things. Insigne and Hamsik (and Callejon since he joined for that matter) have been putting up top assist numbers for years in Napoli so you cant claim their numbers are only great because of Higuain. Higuain was in brilliant form this season, he was scoring like crazy but without a functional team with great creators behind him he couidnt have done it. its that simple. the team was ticking so well, its why they have been our contenders for so long.

about Pogba, im gonna explain it one last time, if you still insist on this bs i give up. Pogba was out of form since his injury in February/March the season before and didnt catch form again when he returned. THAT Pogba was put into a mess of a team that had several new players incoming. do you remember what was the situation in our team at the beginning of the season? we lost Pirlo, Vidal, Tevez, we had Barzagli and Licht out injured at different times, we got Sandro, Cuadrado, Lemina and Hernanes very late, Asamoah, Mandzukic, Khedira, Morata, Pereyra were also injured at different points in the opening months. we were reduced to a team that had to play Padoin as the regista with Pereyra/Sturaro next to him and Pogba because we had starters and the 1st alternative out and our replacements arrived very late. we were also struggling to find the correct formation and were changing between 3-4 formations. now, do you notice any similarities between this midfield and the France one at the Euro? im sure you do, but you will ofcourse ignore it to bash Pogba since it looks like hes leaving. Padoin, Sturaro, Kante, Matuidi, Sissoko, none of these guys can hold the midfield and organize the play the way a Marchisio does. or even a Montolivo. they are all pretty much terrible passers that are useless on offense (apart from Sissoko and his runs down the flank). the entire load of the midfields offense was on Pogba, he had to carry the team. i dont even know why you take that as an example for him, it was so obvious that the team was struggling in all areas. once we got our injured key players back, once we found a working formation and once the guys that arrived late found a place into the formation, the entire team started playing better. if you watched Pjanic for his NT youd notice a similar thing, hes the guy thats expected to do everything playing next to technically limited players so he almost always underperforms. you cant expect from a mid to carry the entire teams offense on his shoulders, thats just too easy to defend against and thus you get what you saw in the opening games. as soon as he got help, he performed better, and thats the Pogba you should be judging, not the out-of-form-playing-in-a-mess-team one
Your post is, in the words of the great Mino Raiola:

"Lots of Bla Bla Bla"



 

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