Paul Pogba (156 Viewers)

[zizinho]

Of course he was played out of position. Doesn't change the fact he had a shit Euros. Would that have changed if he had been played in his proper position? Likely. But the best CM in the world according to you should not have fallen off a cliff performance-wise just because he was played in a different part of the midfield.

The obvious answer is that he's nowhere near as consistent and versatile as some make him out to be, if being shifted to another part of the midfield makes him play like shit.

Short stretches of dominance don't mean shit yet. I reserve final judgment on Pogba until he performs consistently.

its a big factor if you play a guy whos strengths are clearly not suited for a holding midfielder role (both offensively and defensively). Pogba needs to go forward where he can create something, not hold the midfield for others, and it was stupid to expect of him to suddenly turn into a Pirlo or Alonso there. and he wasnt as bad as many make it out to be btw, apart from the final was their best mid

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right now? better than Modric? Veratti?

yes

 

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[Hængebøffer]

Why are we comparing a midfielder with a striker?

Either way, imagine this team we have with Pogba in it

Agree. But I gotta admit I got a more positive view on Higuain reading those numbers.

 

[Post Ironic]

@Xperd



Yeah. I mean, I definitely have a tendency to overrate our players, and underrate others. It's fun to bash other teams top players and laugh when they fail. Part of being a fan I suppose.

However, I did say to @Hist multiple times that I would love Higuain here, and think he would do even better in this environment, over the course of the last 1.5 seasons. Didn't stop me from bashing him and laughing when he choked, but I could still recognize even so, what an amazing player he is.

The Morata > Higuain stuff was always trolling. And emotions speaking while watching him score in CL.

I still think Pogba was the "best-performing" CM in football over the last 2-3 months of the season... but there is a difference between saying that, and saying he's the best CM in football. One 2-3 month spell at the top doesn't make him the best, especially after the trash Euros he had, even if he was played out of position. He's definitely top 5-6 CMs in football already, which is damn impressive for a 23 year old.

 

[ClaudiOHHH]

I anticipate it being a quiet weekend

 

[InterMerda]

I anticipate it being a quiet weekend

It will be. Do you still think he is gone for sure? Shits confusing, thought he was a goner but idk anymore.

 

[ClaudiOHHH]

It will be. Do you still think he is gone for sure? $#@!s confusing, thought he was a goner but idk anymore.

Yeah, I think he's gone. If everything was a lie, he would still be promoted by our team, which he now isn't.

 

[vodka]

When Pogba has to return to Vinovo as per agreements?

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Yeah, I think he's gone. If everything was a lie, he would still be promoted by our team, which he now isn't.

I don't believe he is gone. I don't believe it's asad done as you all think

 

[ClaudiOHHH]

I don't believe he is gone. I don't believe it's asad done as you all think

How do you explain him vanishing from the Juve Store advertisements and him not being in our kit unveil?

 

[InterMerda]

When Pogba has to return to Vinovo as per agreements?

August 7th I believe, when his holidays are over.

 

[vodka]

August 7th I believe, when his holidays are over.

hmm, well, the time is ticking, next week or never

 

[AndreaCristiano]

How do you explain him vanishing from the Juve Store advertisements and him not being in our kit unveil?

How do you explain morata being there a week before he left ? That means jack. I take more stock in Raiola and his tweet before about all made up media bs than looking into things that aren't there

 

[Nzoric]

How do you explain him vanishing from the Juve Store advertisements and him not being in our kit unveil?

Because we dont want to sell merch in case United cop to our demands. Its easy to sell pogba shirts once we know he is staying.

 

[ClaudiOHHH]

How do you explain morata being there a week before he left ?

Ummm

Because he was still a Juventus player? Like Pogba was it seems yesterday, but now is is not?

I hope you're right though, man

 

[MikeM]

Raiola's tweet just means the clubs are still negotiating.

 

[InterMerda]

Because we dont want to sell merch in case United cop to our demands. Its easy to sell pogba shirts once we know he is staying.

But you can buy a jersey with Pogba's name and number, I checked the juve store this morning and pogba's name was still there.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Ummm

Because he was still a Juventus player? Like Pogba was it seems yesterday, but now is is not?

I hope you're right though, man

You don't think at the time the ad was done Juve knew Reals intentions ?

 

[Xperd]

@Xperd



Yeah. I mean, I definitely have a tendency to overrate our players, and underrate others. It's fun to bash other teams top players and laugh when they fail. Part of being a fan I suppose.

However, I did say to @Hist multiple times that I would love Higuain here, and think he would do even better in this environment, over the course of the last 1.5 seasons. Didn't stop me from bashing him and laughing when he choked, but I could still recognize even so, what an amazing player he is.

The Morata > Higuain stuff was always trolling. And emotions speaking while watching him score in CL.

I still think Pogba was the "best-performing" CM in football over the last 2-3 months of the season... but there is a difference between saying that, and saying he's the best CM in football. One 2-3 month spell at the top doesn't make him the best, especially after the trash Euros he had, even if he was played out of position. He's definitely top 5-6 CMs in football already, which is damn impressive for a 23 year old.

We also need to remember how out of place he was when he din't have Marchisio playing alongside him. Pure crap in some games.

This is not coping mechanism , this is just plain truth. Pogba had an unreal 2-3 month period during the fag end of the season but he was mostly hit and miss before.

He doesn't have the consistency of other WC experienced mid fielders yet to be called the best. It's ridiculous. Basically people falling for talent and hype.

Heck he hasn't even had a season as good as Dybala had in his entire Juve spell.

It was no surprise to see him flop in the EURO's really because he was receiving a lot of unwarranted hype and still is. He is not that good yet. He doesn't influence games the same way other top midfielders do consistently.

I've always wanted to say this. What we will lose in Pogba is his marketability and his future potential but for now, we should be absolutely fine. People think he's Cristiano of midfielders or something ffs. Even Cristiano was light years ahead of him in consistency at the same age.

 

[Albo]

best Central Midfielder in the world

Yep he is , some guys here

 

[campionesidd]

Raiola's word is as good as Di Culo's, Di Marzio's and zizinho's.