Paul Pogba (175 Viewers)

How many minutes will he play for jj in 23-24 season?


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Kian

Senior Member
Jul 22, 2011
589
So many people that don't watch Juve games call Pogba massively overrated because of these fucking games. But what is he supposed to do? He played deeper than Pirlo ever has. No freedom to move whatsoever. Nothing he could have done really. The system was utter bullshit. Sissoko and Matuidi more offensive than Pogba Hahaha. Deschamps is an absolute catastrophy. I hope he will never come to Juve as a coach ever again.
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,612
So many people that don't watch Juve games call Pogba massively overrated because of these fucking games. But what is he supposed to do? He played deeper than Pirlo ever has. No freedom to move whatsoever. Nothing he could have done really. The system was utter bullshit. Sissoko and Matuidi more offensive than Pogba Hahaha. Deschamps is an absolute catastrophy. I hope he will never come to Juve as a coach ever again.
even defensively he didnt do much
 
Jun 6, 2015
11,391
Are people actually giving Pogba stick for this game? He kept the ball moving and played the role he was asked to play being defensively responsible and always available for a pass. If anything the players further up the pitch didn't create enough and didn't take the few chances they got.
 

Liviu

Senior Member
Jan 10, 2015
992
OK guys, can we get serious for a moment here. i got a new message from my fratello in Turin, and im happy to say he bring us good news (for now). according to him, there is a clause in Pogbas contract that makes his former club earn 15% of his future sale. in this case, its United both as the former club and as the buying club, so no matter how much they pay to us, we need to give 15% back. and this is where the negotiations stalled. United (for now) isnt willing to go over 130M. thats a huge offer yes, but it will see them return 19.5M of that, so we would get less than 110M. we want atleast 120M going to us however, so United will have to offer over 140M for Paul, 142M in total to be precise. this way we will earn 120.7M and United will get 21.3M back. we also want to include bonuses in the deal, such as an extra 10M if Pogba wins the balon dor in the next 5 years and 5M if United wins the UCL in the next 3 years. United has no problem with the bonuses apparently, but they arent willing to go over 130M at the moment. they also have to pay provision to Raiola of 25M (5M per year during the next 5 years) so overall, even for them its too expensive at the moment.

on the other hand, we might be getting a United player, regardless of how the Pogba saga ends. you guys remember how i was telling you in the "Behind the curtains thread", how my fratello told me that Woodward was in Turin sometime in April? well, now we know which players were discussed back then. its Mata, Darmian and Depay. United offered Mata to us back then and they even tried to include him into the Pogba deal now, but the answer from Marotta (Allegri) is still the same as in April - "hes too lazy for Juve". Depay seems like a real possibility at the moment, Mourinho doesent count on him and Paratici really likes the player. United is willing to offer him on a discount, 15M price to us if we sell Pogba, otherwise we will have to pay the full price of 25M. as for Darmian, the answer from United is no. Mourinho counts on him and told Woodward to not sell him.

My fratello told me about Pjanic being a done deal 10 days before it happened, and he even told me about Vidal and Coman going to Bayern last summer, Padoin to Cagliari this summer, and deals like Pereyra to Napoli, Hernanes to Benfica and Benatia to us, which are all close to finalization
How come there's such a clause? He cam for free, as a free agent, there was no dealing with Man Utd for him so why are United mentioned here?
 

Kian

Senior Member
Jul 22, 2011
589
Eventhough he won some balls back, it's not about that. He is not a defensive midfielder in any way shape or form. Nor is he a deeplying playmaker. Whenever France won the ball he went back as far as Umtiti and Koscielny to receive the ball and distribute it. From then he had 2 options: Long balls a la Pirlo, which he actually can play, but that is very hard, Portugal was absolutely ready for it, or pass the ball to one of the two most uncreative midfielders in world football, Sissoko and Matuidi. The only thing that linked midfield and attack were Sissoko's runs. That is wrong on so many levels and Pogba can do nothing about that. It's just not his fault. You could clearly see his frustration. Against Germany, when Kante came on, he finally moved up the pitch. It took about 1 minute until he set up the 2nd goal. If you didn't realise all that in 120 mins don't even talk about football please...
 

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