Paul Pogba (127 Viewers)

[Mister]

Yes.

If you exceed the 70% limit in wages of your total turnover,you'll get punished.Barca are close to exceeding the limit because of automatic increase in wages in contracts of Messi and Neymar.

Btw Barca are close to exceeding their FFP limit for wages so it would be difficult to buy him especially if Raiola is demanding a 10m+ net salary.

What?

Barca spends approx 60% of their revenue on wages but because they had a treble winning season their wage bill increased to over 70% as various bonus clauses were activated of all players including neymar and messi.

FFP is still alive?

Yes but superficially. Under the new 'relaxed' rules clubs can now show future confirmed sources of revenue for upto 3 years to show break even and get away with sanctions.

70% wages, 30% sponsorship etc rules still apply.

Ofcourse it would be a shit punishment.Probably a similar one to City or PSG.

Wont be allowed to sign players beyond a certain limit and/or only allowed to register 21 first team players in your squad or something like that.

Barca's Assembly of socios approved 650m as next seasons budget including revenue from the new broadcasting and qatar airways deals. This means an increase of 80m in wage budget.

They won't have any difficulty with neymar's contract renewal, pogba's salary or FFP.

 

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[Lapa]

What is this dab shit anyway? Wheres the oil?

Only black people are able to understand that retarded dabshit for sure.

 

[Xperd]

What?

Barca spends approx 60% of their revenue on wages but because they had a treble winning season their wage bill increased to over 70% due to various bonus clauses getting activated of all players including neymar and messi.



Yes but superficially. Under the new 'relaxed' rules clubs can now show future confirmed sources of revenue for upto 3 years to show break even and get away with sanctions.

70% wages, 30% sponsorship etc rules still apply.



Barca's Assembly of socios approved 650m as next seasons budget including revenue from the new broadcasting and qatar airways deals. This means an increase of 80m in wage budget.

They won't have any difficulty with neymar's contract renewal, pogba's salary or FFP.

No its not related to the bonuses in their treble victory

http://as.com/diarioas/2016/01/28/english/1453973380_879317.html

In the next two yrs of their contract,they get an automatic increase either way.Messi for example is going to earn 40m net over the next two yrs.That drives up their wage budget pretty drastically.

Like how we've structured Pogba's contract with us.An automatic increase by 1m in the next yrs of his contract.


And i am aware of their revenue increase,and you're right they probably wont get hit by FFP sanctions because they can make money pretty easily however i'm not sure they would be willing to offer 10m+ net for Pogba considering Iniesta,Pique and some other senior players contract renewals are coming up.

And here's another link :

http://www.sport-english.com/en/news/barca/barcelonas-salary-limit-problem-for-signings-4520605

It says they're close to exceeding that 70% limit.

Its not that straightforward.

 

[Mister]

No its not related to the bonuses in their treble victory

http://as.com/diarioas/2016/01/28/english/1453973380_879317.html

In the next two yrs of their contract,they get an automatic increase either way.Messi for example is going to earn 40m net over the next two yrs.That drives up their wage budget pretty drastically.

Like how we've structured Pogba's contract with us.An automatic increase by 1m in the next yrs of his contract.


And i am aware of their revenue increase,and you're right they probably wont get hit by FFP sanctions because they can make money pretty easily however i'm not sure they would be willing to offer 10m+ net for Pogba considering Iniesta,Pique and some other senior players contract renewals are coming up.

And here's another link :

http://www.sport-english.com/en/news/barca/barcelonas-salary-limit-problem-for-signings-4520605

It says they're close to exceeding that 70% limit.

Its not that straightforward.

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Spoiler

AS are citing Diari ARA as source, who apparently have leaked messi's contract details. Tbh the source is not very reliable and paying 80m gross to messi is unrealistic.

Yes i agree they are close to the 70% limit (this yr) but next year they will have another 80m and if they don't win the treble (likely) bonuses will be substantially less so they won't have a problem.

One of the two serious financial problems shown in this report is that the total club expenses from sports-related salaries (football + sections) represent 73% of the club’s income excluding transfers and asset sales (€576 million), surpassing the recommended 70% maximum threshold. Of course, the variable costs were particularly high this season due to sporting success. This figure includes salaries of players and coaching staff, title bonuses, image rights, sports agents, social security and amortization of player contracts. However, if we only consider the football section (first team + youth teams) the ratio is 66%, which is within the recommended levels.

With contract renewals they amortize the remaining value of that player over the length of the new contract so in a way expenses get compensated.

http://flyingbarca.blogspot.in/2015/10/neymars-contract-superstar-signings.html

Susana Monje (Vp of finance): "A possible renewal of Neymar Jr's contract is not included in the cost but the impact will be compensated for accountancy purposes by the increase in the amortisation period."

Actually their main problem is debt.

It is important to note that this debt that we’re talking about isn’t entirely bank debt. The club actually only owes €52 million to banks from a syndicate loan that was taken in 2010. This amount was supposed to be paid last season, but due to the increased expenditure with transfers, the club refinanced the loan and will pay it off by the end of this season. €103 million of the club’s debt is to other clubs in deferred payment obligations for player acquisitions (€74 million of that is short term and is meant to be paid by the end of the season and €29 million is long term). For example, the club owes Liverpool €36 million for Luis Suárez this season and another €18 million in long-term debt.

The club also expects that the some of the payments it is owed by other clubs for selling players will be extinguished this season (that whole amount is around €36 million). The only player signing that is listed for the 2015/2016 season is Arda Turan’s. The €34 million owed to Atlético Madrid for him is covered by what Chelsea and Aston Villa owe the club for the transfers of Pedro and Adama Traore.

http://www.fcbarcelona.com/club/det...a-s-financial-health-to-be-stronger-than-ever

http://www.totalbarca.com/2015/opinion/about-the-money-financial-review-201415/

 

[DAiDEViL]

Catalan/Spanish journalists are even more disgusting than their Italian counterparts. "informed" the arrogance of these cunts.

they can't compete with the likes of bournemouth.

 

[j0ker]

Yes.

If you exceed the 70% limit in wages of your total turnover,you'll get punished.Barca are close to exceeding the limit because of automatic increase in wages in contracts of Messi and Neymar.

They will be fine, new deal with Qatar Airways and their deal with Nike ends in 2018, most likely they will be getting around 200mln with the new one.

BTW, are you sure that Messi's wage will be 40mln NET? That seems too much.

 

[DutchJuventino]

They will be fine, new deal with Qatar Airways and their deal with Nike ends in 2018, most likely they will be getting around 200mln with the new one.

BTW, are you sure that Messi's wage will be 40mln NET? That seems too much.

They say 34 million NET, but I don't believe that papers.

 

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@Klin

I hope no one visits those grannies.

 

[pavluska]

This also why if we'd play a trequartista that doesnt work for $#@!, he'd need to be pretty damn amazing, cause of the limitations it puts on Pogba and Khedira.

An AM would have no effect on Pogba's mezzala role. Not sure what you mean about Khedira. He makes some nice runs, but his B2B role is more defensive in nature than attacking.

Barcelona have informed Juventus that they're no longer interested in Paul Pogba (22). They focus on a centre back and a left back. [mundo deportivo]

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It's better for both Barca and Pogba for the transfer to take place in summer 2017 rather than 2016. Probable financial issues aside, Barca needs CB (and a backup/alternative LB) more than Pogba. And it makes no sense for either of Pogba or Iniesta to be on the bench next season. Pogba can use another season at Juve also. His development isn't complete yet. Even if it's rare now compared to before, he still makes mistakes at times, and more importantly, he needs to work on being more consistent to where he's bossing in games in every month of the season.

 

[Zacheryah]

An AM would have no effect on Pogba's mezzala role. Not sure what you mean about Khedira. He makes some nice runs, but his B2B role is more defensive in nature than attacking.



It's better for both Barca and Pogba for the transfer to take place in summer 2017 rather than 2016. Probable financial issues aside, Barca needs CB (and a backup/alternative LB) more than Pogba. And it makes no sense for either of Pogba or Iniesta to be on the bench next season. Pogba can use another season at Juve also. His development isn't complete yet. Even if it's rare now compared to before, he still makes mistakes at times, and more importantly, he needs to work on being more consistent to where he's bossing in games in every month of the season.

We currently are a very well balanced team. When we played 4312, the am , pereyra or vidal, had to pull considerable amounts of work. If we'd play an am that is a primadonna who doesnt do this kind it work, it would limit the offensive movements of the am behind it. Its always a balancing act. I think that the cm's have always been juve's greatest asset, and continue to be. The proper am for this juve is not an easy task, but if he has the right mentality and workrate, it would be significantly easyer to get him into the team.

People often underrate the amount of work pereyra did in the am spot, and just much much pressing and covering out 4312 did.

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I'd also find it insulting if Pogba left after wearing the #10 just one year

 

[pavluska]

We currently are a very well balanced team. When we played 4312, the am , pereyra or vidal, had to pull considerable amounts of work. If we'd play an am that is a primadonna who doesnt do this kind it work, it would limit the offensive movements of the am behind it. Its always a balancing act. I think that the cm's have always been juve's greatest asset, and continue to be. The proper am for this juve is not an easy task, but if he has the right mentality and workrate, it would be significantly easyer to get him into the team.

People often underrate the amount of work pereyra did in the am spot, and just much much pressing and covering out 4312 did.

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I'd also find it insulting if Pogba left after wearing the #10 just one year

We'll likely get an AM who can also play as a CM.

Pereyra is poor defensively.

 

[Zacheryah]

We'll likely get an AM who can also play as a CM.

Pereyra is poor defensively.

Well, he's not vidal but i wouldnt call it poor. He does work hard and pull all his duties. Having a cam that can play as a cm, is a good thing. I wonder if we are gonna sign anyone besides that sapothingie guy

 

[pavluska]

Well, he's not vidal but i wouldnt call it poor. He does work hard and pull all his duties. Having a cam that can play as a cm, is a good thing. I wonder if we are gonna sign anyone besides that sapothingie guy

If you think Pereyra is decent defensively, watch him more closely and/or view his stats. He doesn't work hard nor is he lazy. His technical deficiency while defending is what makes him poor defensively. Can't tackle, intercept, or contain to save his life.

 

[Xperd]

I would have to agree with Zach on Pereyra.When he played CM last yr,i thought he was better in that role than AM.I almost felt like a faster Vidal was playing there.He's good at pressing and covering,maybe not the best tackler or interceptor but no doubt he's a hard-working player.

But its not necessarily the kind of player we need at AM.

 

[Zacheryah]

I saw Pereyra as that kind of player, not good enough to start, but good enough to allow a formation.


If we change back to 4312, i'm really expecting quite a cam.

 

[pavluska]

I would have to agree with Zach on Pereyra.When he played CM last yr,i thought he was better in that role than AM.I almost felt like a faster Vidal was playing there.He's good at pressing and covering,maybe not the best tackler or interceptor but no doubt he's a hard-working player.

But its not necessarily the kind of player we need at AM.

Pereyra does have good recovery time because he has good speed. And yes, he presses well too.

I actually remember him not recovering to help out in defense multiple times in games, but that was in the 1st half of last season. He has been responsible defensively since then, but I wouldn't exactly define him as a really hardworking player. He's generally responsible and does his job.

I really liked him playing in Pogba's role in the 352 last season when Pogba was injured. He's definitely good as a mezzala. Midfield looks really unbalanced with both him and Pogba at CM though. Examples: Udinese game last season and the few games earlier this season.

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What is this dab $#@! anyway? Wheres the oil?

Wait till Pogba acquires this level of swagger, then you too will embrace the dab.

 

[X Æ A-12]

Pereyra does have good recovery time because he has good speed. And yes, he presses well too.

I actually remember him not recovering to help out in defense multiple times in games, but that was in the 1st half of last season. He has been responsible defensively since then, but I wouldn't exactly define him as a really hardworking player. He's generally responsible and does his job.

I really liked him playing in Pogba's role in the 352 last season when Pogba was injured. He's definitely good as a mezzala. Midfield looks really unbalanced with both him and Pogba at CM though. Examples: Udinese game last season and the few games earlier this season.

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Wait till Pogba acquires this level of swagger, then you too will embrace the dab.

I already am not a fan of his attitude when things arent going his way when he reaches that level of douchery sell to barca

 

[edgardavids2608]

Yeah sell sell sell

 

[DutchJuventino]

@Alex-444

Do you have that Pogba-Dybala combination gif?

 

[Vlad]

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